thommy

ok i know what you mean and i agree ! the problem we have is education - all around the world. your country is a good example for that - even when the thinkers are slowly becommng more and more.

i think that internet is a big reason for that because it is not only a solution to see many different meanings to catch the whole view - it is also an easy instrument for dumbs to find a simple and fast explanation for dummies and make them look like politically up to date.

i think there is a real need for a "voters licence" because we can´t accept that democracy is being used for the silly dreams of the low IQies.
as more dumbs can vote as more dumbs get the chance to be elected.

we could give the voting right also right away to the criminals only or to those who can not read and write - i am sure they have even other ideas to change the world.

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rogueteens

Does anyone know if Thommy has ever replied to a comment with real facts or is his whole counter-arguments just insults?

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thommy

wich facts ?? did you guys ever talk about facts ?

what "fact" do you exactly miss ???

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klinton

Young people in the country where I was born are as good educated as people in Germany or Netherlands [it's white Europe, not black Africa or dancing South America], and prolly better educated than people in UK or Spain [ saying on average]. The problem lays somewhere else - it's the MENTALITY and AGE, as usually older people still live mentally decades ago. There are also differences between big cities and villages/ towns, the last seem to be more close minded.
Let's take a Spain as a brilliant example for that, over there it looks like the whole country would live in XIX century on so many levels [which has its charm though]. Also many old people there...
Also, you are right that if people search for black and white world and easy answers for everything, internet is perfect for that. Even Google helps it. If you start searching for some keyword (like for example: "why russians/americans/whatever are drunk and stupid" ), it will give you 1000's of answers for that. and "thanks" to google suggestion, it will provide you the more and more suggestions and answers from the same scheme...so you will gte narrow minded very soon.

Manfap

Nope, they want everything fucking shiny and new.

klinton

uhum...Can Spaniard vote out of his place of residence easily ? Can Spaniards living abroad vote easily, or have to do it by mail, 3 weeks before voting (afair) ?
Is fiber optic available in every small town and village around the country (for example I was in Bulgaria this year and thats basically the situation there) ?

is doing business easy in Spain, or you have to pay for 1000's of useless "abogados" etc, as this is how this system is constructed ? Is Spain one of the most corrupted countries from EU, along with Italy, Romania and Bulgaria (those last two are extreme, as corruption is even on the lowest levels there).

Do they have **really ** open market in transport system and communications or these are rather some funny monopols and oligarchias, driving and keeping prices up ?

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pimpmaster9000

paul is a google expert on anything...he knows studios better than me and I am a studio boss and he has never had a cam model in his life...elections in holland? he knows better than the ducth! elections in france? he knows better than the french! elections in germany? je knows better than germans...

dude paid models 12euros for a photo shoot but knows macro economy better than governments...sounds legit

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Tasty1

The elections in Holland, The Usa, France, Germany and England are over. We can wait and relax another 3 - 4 years for the next elections. Or are there any more interesting elections coming?

In Holland in the meantime all parties are happy that the own Healthcare risk will be 385 euro instead of 400 euro per year!... That will cost 0,80 cent a month extra. So it is about 6,00 euro per year. Yes 600 cents per year less own risk for healthcare, NOT 600 euro. And than Mark Rutte has his new government after talking for more than 6 months.

The Brexit will fill in the gap. I have a nice Brexit domain for sale.

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They will lose the war

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Paul Markham

Good to know that you pay taxes in the EU and Germany. You will be paying more in taxes to pay the migrants bill, soon.

A growing minority is a growing minority that's taking root all over Europe. You want us to ignore it, I want us to address the demands of the people voting for this growing minority. Fewer people competing for jobs, homes, welfare, resources, fewer criminals, fewer prisoners, fewer terrorists, etc. In Europe.

Your plan to educate the world. Where will the teachers and the money come from? Then tell us how it will work. Will you educate North Koreans, Zimbabweans, Myanmar, etc? Places where the people are happy to kill their fellow countrymen. And how will you educate the Shia and Sunni to love each other?

I don't have Alzheimer's, but I do know your ideas are out of a fantasy book.

I'm allowed to comment on the affairs of Germany when they plan to send 1,000s of illegal migrants to Czech.

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Paul Markham

Read this. https://www.newstatesman.com/world/e...-right-parties

And check out this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ties_in_Europe

Ignore them at your peril. I am afraid they will grow because of the stupidity of our leaders.

The 1930s Depression did more to create the Nazi Party than anything else. Germany had it very tough after its leaders had started a war that cost millions of lives, devastated the country and left most Germans worse off. But there were Far Right parties all over Europe. Spain, Italy, UK, Austria, Greece and more. The reasons were the lack of jobs, people started to look for solutions. With unemployment, low wages, poverty growing in Europe will history repeat itself?

There's a lot of poverty in Europe, this will educate you. https://www.google.co.uk/search?dcr=....0.Ihvb35D1-cg

Even mainstream EU countries are suffering. Spain, Portugal, Italy, Eire, UK etc all have a lot of unemployed and low-wage earners who struggle to get out of the poverty trap. When they get the chance to apply for a job, too many foreigners are there competing at a lower wage to take the job. They are excellent targets for the Far Right.

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Paul Markham

So you agree that most non-EU migrants are uneducated to Western standards. How about keeping them out until they reach the same standards as us? Or have a system where we only allow in those who can pass a points system similar to Australia?

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Paul Markham

You rarely post links to facts.

Answer my question about education.

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thommy

where does the money for your phantasic walls and the big bombs come from with what you want to resolve the problem?

and you know that exactly WHY ? because it has never been done before ????

BULLSHIT !!!!!

NOBODY sends ILLEGAL immigrants anywhere - that´s why they are called ILLEGAL.
but yes - germany will send the ILLEGAL immigrants back to CZ if THEY let them in first and send them directly to germany (what have happend in CZ and hungary and a few other of those shit EU countries who only want to take the benefit)

and you MUST have alzheimer - and this i say in your favor - because if you are not only forget the facts because of a mental desease it means that you hide them on purpose.

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thommy

paul you say you are afraid that they grow - i am afraid too.
but what you do not see is that your are singing their songs already.

i also do not doubt that there IS a problem but i want to tell you want makes me crazy in the discussion:

1. everybody talks about illegal immigrants in germany. if you look on the map you see that germany is not even able to let ANY immigrants into europe. germany is not a border to the non EU it is in the middle.

2. if you know the schengen contracts, you should know that everyone who entered the EU can move and travel inside the EU wherever he wants. same when i enter USA in california, nobody will ask me a new visa in florida.

what happend here was that all this refugees came to italy, greece, hungary and also to turkey. all of them send them directly or indirectly to germany (let´s exept here italy what have done much more as they can).
italy was cryiung for help, greece was in a very bad economic situation but we have the human mandatory to help these people what are fleeing from war and are in danger.

so germany took them in the hope that the rest of the EU will do the same. IF that would happen, there would not be a big problem now because they would be distrubuted over all EU.

BECAUSE nobody let them in except this few countries there where such a mass comming inside suddenly that nobody was even prepared to register them.
it took more than a year for Geramyn to install this infrastructure and in this time there came a lot of illegal in.
but that does NOT MEAN that anybody wanted them. also merkel did not want them
but HOW can you approve that from a million if a country is only prepared to take a few thousand per year.

3. this problem was used by the right wing parties and putins internet army to stir people up. 90% of the news are either fakenews or are half true (where the nessecary part to understand it was simply forgotten to tell).

4. if you look at the criminal statistic in germany the crimes AGAINST refugees and immigrants (and even germans with immigrant hoistory) are 20 times higher as the crimes from this group.
in fact near to 65% of their so called "crimes" go against the right of residence.
so they are not criminal because they damaged something or hurt someone, they are stamped as criminals BECAUSE they did not go the legal way.

5. if you read this fake thread here where they posted a video where "2 polish hit a black man in Ravensburg Germany" you can see what these right radicals are thinking.

a. in this video is NO background of what happend before and WHY they hit him
b. this video is definately not made in Germany, Switzerland or Austria

so all facts are either lies or uncomplete and all they do is apploud to the video and call the Germans stupid.

THESE are the people whose thoughts you share !!!

people who are refusing EVERY news when it does not fit into their nazi ego.

do you REALLY THINK that such individuals have the better solutions?

if yes - why did your country fight against hitler? he would do it EXACTLY this way and simply kill everybody who is not with him.

national pride - a very hard discussed topic here too - is exactly what lead to 2 worldwars and many many cruels in the world. it is time to give it up to think that we are better than others and start to resolve the problems at their roots.

you can think about that or not - but if you refuse this recommendation you are one part of this roots where you just said that you are afraid of them.

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Paul Markham

That's not my solution. We leave them to kill each other.

That should be all the clues you need.


Calling them legal when they are in reality illegal doesn't make any difference. But I will give you this one, you still aren't going to send them to Czech.

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Paul Markham

If you can't see the problem. That is a problem.

So why did Merkel invite them?

That's not the Shengen contract.

They are not fleeing war. Syria and Iraq was never completely over run by ISIS. It's not nearly defeated. They should have stayed in safe parts of those two countries or stayed inTurkey. Then there are the non-Syrians and Iraqis, what about them.

Now you're saying Germany took them in, in the hope that the rest of Europe would take some. When did Germany decide what other countries do?

The migrants weren't prepared to register in Turkey.

Exactly right, except the part about it being fake news.

does thast incleude terrorist attacks and rapes?

And it will get worse them more that come.

Now you're just ranting as if a problem that does exist, doesn't exist.

As you say we are better than others, so what about my comments on not allowing them in or having a points system similer to Australia? You ignored that.

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pimpmaster9000

if paul was born in syria I am sure he would stay at home and not try to get a better life...paul would never leave his country...nooooo....

paul got dem high skills

fucking hypocrite LOL

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Paul Markham

There is nothing wrong with businessmen who can bring jobs moving from country to country. The world has recognised that from very early on.

Syria was never totally overrun with ISIS, nor Iraq. The refugees stopped being refugees once they found safe haven in Turkey or a Muslim country. Walking all the way to Germany, Sweden, etc made them economic migrants. Which is what I am. The difference is they will never contribute to their new home and expect to be looked after.

I contributed and don't expect to be looked after. My UK pensions private and State are paid into my Czech bank account and I still contribute. I even pay UK taxes on those pensions.

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Paul Markham

Thommy is a delusional dreamer where it's possible to educate people away from cultures they have held for 100s or 1,000s of years. Who will pay the bill for this he won't offer any advice on, where the teachers will come from he again is silent. Why we should be educating the world and not Europeans or Americans is again left unanswered. We will certainly need more educated people here in Europe and America. He does point out how the uneducated here don't know what they're voting for.

Even should we achieve his delusional dream or educating the world, what then? Will they have enough food to live on? Will they demand jobs to go with their new education? Or does he expect them to be nice, kind Third Worlders who will be educated and live as they do now? Or expect jobs to come from the West. Depleting the number of jobs we have now.

Of course, if they do get those jobs they will have wealth to buy goods. But not from Europe because Europe will have given away its wealth.

A world where everyone can be educated with a good job and enough to live on is a nice dream. But that's all it is, a dream. Or delusion.

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DraX

Did you read the news?

You said they wouldn't get any kind of power, things would get fixed/resolved, they now surpassed SPD placing themselves as 2nd. I usually take polls with a grain of salt but this is still directive. Lets thank Merkel and Schultz for rallying voters and support to a party they hate and lets get real, Merkel is not the future and neither is Martin Schultz. This is exactly what I predicted.

I follow German news and it's a fresh breeze to see alternative für deutschland open their mouths in debates and show political incorrectness. I love it.


Okay Einstein...

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oppoten

No, he's a Jew promoting Jewish interests. Jews have historically fared better in multicultural societies, and have consistently been expelled from racially homogenous ones. Hence Jews want Europe to become multicultural.

They really did a number on you boomers if you still can't see who won the war. The earth will shift on its axis when you lot die off

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