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Old 10-17-2017, 02:49 AM   #1
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Germany to send 88yo to prison for six months -- Simply for stating "illegal" facts

German neo-Nazi, 88, is convicted again for Holocaust denial after claiming there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz

A German court on Monday sentenced an 88-year-old 'Nazi grandma' to six months in jail, the fifth in a string of similar convictions for the repeat Holocaust denier.

Ursula Haverbeck has often denied the mass murder of millions of Jews by the Nazis, which constitutes incitement of racial hatred under German law.

And although she has been convicted on several occasions, she has not served any jail time, as the cases are all still under appeal.

During a public event at the end of January, Haverbeck repeated her claims, saying it was 'not true' that there were gas chambers at the Auschwitz death camp.

She also disputed the fact that 1.1 million people were killed at the concentration camp in Nazi-occupied Poland.


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Old 10-17-2017, 02:57 AM   #2
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Nobody cares Wehateporn / Matt 26z / Mineistaken / Onwebcam your alt-right hate posts under multiple nics is so played out be more inventive old troll
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I guess the huge lumps of gold teeth extracted from the dead and the cyklon b gas canisters I saw were fake then


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Why are these people on this board, I don't get it. It renders GFY completely useless.
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^^ German neo-Nazi, 88, is convicted again for Holocaust denial ...
I hope it was a long prison sentence.
Those people are human trash.

America needs a law like this and a 'devils island' to send its violators to.
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Thought police out in full force i see.

In a "social democracy" such as Germany, there is such a thing as "illegal opinions." Think about that.

I wonder how much more time she would have gotten if she also had expressed displeasure with the "refugee" plague spreading across Germany and the rest of Europe?


Lesson here: When you get the chance to gas Jews, go ahead and do it. You'll be accused of it anyway.
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If she would have been caught kneeling to support the NFL players! OP would be calling her a traitor or brain washed
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Bottom line....OP would be smart to stay out of Germany.
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I hope it was a long prison sentence.
Those people are human trash.

America needs a law like this and a 'devils island' to send its violators to.
People like her are too dumb to be allowed to live.
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I guess the huge lumps of gold teeth extracted from the dead and the cyklon b gas canisters I saw were fake then
The zyklon b was used to fumigate clothing after lice outbreaks.

Lice carried typhus.

Typhus killed many internment camp residents, but only after the "evil Nazis" attempted to save them at the "killing camp" hospitals (this became difficult later in the war as supplies dwindled).

After they died the gold was indeed extracted from their teeth.
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America needs a law like this
Serious question:
How would that not violate the first amendment?
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Simply for stating "illegal" facts
there isn´t anything called "illegal facts" - facts are facts and if they are you can say them as long as you want.

but lies on a well known history are illegal - and it is perfect when this lie spreaders go directly to jail. especially this old bitch what is the widow of Prof. Dr. Werner Georg Haverbeck one of the real bad ones when it came to changing history. a supemacist who worked with rudolf hess and heinrich himmler and member of the SS.

sure that he washed her brain long ago - sorry, that germany have really cultivated jails - the right place for her would be the gulag or bring her to tel aviv city and let her explain her theories there.
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The zyklon b was used to fumigate clothing after lice outbreaks.

Lice carried typhus.

Typhus killed many internment camp residents, but only after the "evil Nazis" attempted to save them at the "killing camp" hospitals (this became difficult later in the war as supplies dwindled).

After they died the gold was indeed extracted from their teeth.
THIS is why your country needs such a law !!!
to get finally rid of disgusting nazis like you are.
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How would that not violate the first amendment?
There are several types of speech that are not allowed under the 1st Amendment according to Supreme Court Decisions. That type of speech could easily fall under "hate" speech among other types of banned speech.
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You're not American.

You don't have the First Amendment rights that we have you hateful idiot asshole fake nic.
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to get finally rid of disgusting nazis like you are.
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Ban this waste of space.

Germany has a law against Holocaust deniers for good reason.
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i hate this neo nazi cockroaches wherever they are.
i am VERY familar with the german history and this is why i see it repeating.

hitler and his gang have been the founders of fake news. they even tried to make a german religion "die deutschen christen" where they told the people that jesus was an arian and born in germany and was chased away from the jews.

there is no ideology in the world so full of unbelievable lies and brainwash as the nazi ideology.
but obviously people are still not smart enough to understand it and just believe in everything what is against the existing society.

the shit and the vomit of the worst in the world is classified nazi.
an in this forum are a few of this ugly creatures.
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She knows what she is doing is wrong and false. So she deserves to go to jail.
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The zyklon b was used to fumigate clothing after lice outbreaks.

Lice carried typhus.

Typhus killed many internment camp residents, but only after the "evil Nazis" attempted to save them at the "killing camp" hospitals (this became difficult later in the war as supplies dwindled).

After they died the gold was indeed extracted from their teeth.
wow thats amazing

so they could not just boil the clothes in water but had to use special poison gas....makes perfect sense
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wow thats amazing

so they could not just boil the clothes in water but had to use special poison gas....makes perfect sense
You can read up on the Wiki entry. Just be sure to skip over the text with the juice spilled on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B

"Beginning in the 1920s, Zyklon B was used at U.S. Customs facilities along the Mexican border to disinfect the clothing of border crossers."



Why would US Customs use Zyklon B instead of, as you say, simply boiling the clothing?
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The only reputable source on the subject, The International Red Cross, puts the total deaths of all concentration camp internees at 271,301. Furthermore most deaths were attributed to disease and starvation which the IRC states was primarily due to increasing allied bombings.

Zyklon B was used to save internees from typhus. Allied bombing cut off the supply. The holohoax is a compound lie.

In a letter to the US State Department dated November 22nd 1944 The Red Cross, who were stationed in all the camps, stated : “We have not been able to discover any trace of installations for exterminating civilian prisoners.”

Also, it's physically impossible to burn 6,000,000 people in a span of a few years. The 'ovens' were crematoriums used as merely burying dead typhus victims did nothing to stop the contagion. It takes an hour to cremate a single corpse today, let alone what it must have taken 70 years ago. It would have taken decades to burn that many bodies.


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The only reputable source on the subject, The International Red Cross, puts the total deaths of all concentration camp internees at 271,301. Furthermore most deaths were attributed to disease and starvation which the IRC states was primarily due to increasing allied bombings.

Zyklon B was used to save internees from typhus. Allied bombing cut off the supply. The holohoax is a compound lie.

In a letter to the US State Department dated November 22nd 1944 The Red Cross, who were stationed in all the camps, stated : ?We have not been able to discover any trace of installations for exterminating civilian prisoners.?

Also, it's physically impossible to burn 6,000,000 people in a span of a few years. The 'ovens' were crematoriums used as merely burying dead typhus victims did nothing to stop the contagion. It takes an hour to cremate a single corpse today, let alone what it must have taken 70 years ago. It would have taken decades to burn that many bodies.


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why do you spread fucking hoaxes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#International_Commit tee_of_the_Red_Cross

out of that you should have a closer look to the paper you are referring to



they talk about WEST GERMANY - so tell me when west and east germany started to exist you troll !
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Because the mods refuse to ban the piece of shit and all his fake nicks because that would require "work"..
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#International_Commit tee_of_the_Red_Cross

out of that you should have a closer look to the paper you are referring to



they talk about WEST GERMANY - so tell me when west and east germany started to exist you troll !
Faked documents by bolshevik Communists

The jews were placed in internment camps just as the Japs were in the US. History has taught us that the jew is a cancer and a parasite. A fifth column who had no interest in integrating and giving up its reputation of usury.

The 'Gas Chambers' were as fake as Anne Frank's diary. At most, only about 700,000 jews died in the internment camps and that was due to starvation and disease, mostly coming at the end of the war when the Allies cut the supply lines to the camps.

Sadly, the plan of deporting the jews to Madagascar did not happen. The escalation of the war in the east led to the Germans keeping the jews in internment camps, which later led the Allies, communists and jews to a propaganda bonanza of a level the world has never seen. Almost all the photos and films of the dead jews were taken by the Allies after the war to 'prove how evil the Germans were' despite causing the deaths themselves.

Auschwitz and the 'gas chambers' were 'reconstructed' after the war by the Soviets and the communist Poles. There were no Zyklon B stains in the alleged gas chambers (though there were in the areas where clothes were deloused), plus these doors opened inward (which would be impractical if there were a pile of dead jews on the other side), and even better, could be opened from the inside. Any guards posted outside these 'chambers' would have died too, as there was no vacuum seals on the doors. Auschwitz even had its own swimming pool and movie theater for the inmates!

The 'ovens' were crematoriums used as merely burying dead typhus victims did nothing to stop the contagion. It takes an hour to cremate a single corpse today, let alone what it must have taken 70 years ago.

Perhaps two and a half million jews were killed on the Eastern Front, but that was war and they had that coming. The Baltic states took care of their own jews, given how many of them supported the illegal and brutal Soviet occupation. The jew is universally hated and for good reasons.

Most of the survivors stories are based on rumor and hearsay spread throughout the camps. If you were guaranteed a generous pension from the German Government in the way of 'reparations' for embellishing your story, wouldn't you bullshit a little? The Holohoax con has cost the German taxpayer billions, most of which were not even born at the time.

This lie also led the theft of Palestine from the arabs living there, and the creation of the beast of Israel who leech billions off America and Germany every year and have the US act as its enforcers and legitimizers causing the situation in the Middle East, gaining America many enemies.

The myth of the Holohoax has made the jews bulletproof and untouchable. Even in the face of Israel's apartheid walls and illegal landgrabs. The zionist parasite controls America and the West, and has encouraged 'diversity' which is killing White cultures all over the world, whilst Israel remains as a jew supremacist state.

Today's status quo and kike protection is purely built on the Holohoax legend itself, as well as American and German tax-payers money and the artificial state in the Middle East; which is continually censured by the UN for their genocidal policies, land-grabbing and apartheid walls.

I'd rather the world talked about the 100 million that were murdered in the name of jew-spawned communist regimes (USSR, Soviet Bloc, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Burma, Cambodia). There was no Nuremberg for communism. Evil cunts. Fuck the jews.

If the Holocaust actually happened, the Germans would have done a much better job of it.
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you are such a full of shit nazi !
the only thing hitler forgot indeed is to shower your mom and dad.
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Evil Nazis exterminated all jews at Auschwitz, but only after those jews watched some movies, got laid, read some books, went for a swim, played sports, relaxed in a sauna, made some art, had babies and filed some complaints.

I'd REALLY love to see a few brainwashed GFYers explain this one.

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you are such a full of shit nazi !
the only thing hitler forgot indeed is to shower your mom and dad.
Facts are anti-semitic! You are such a full of shit nazi !
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So much evidence against the "holocaust" that it shouldn't even be in the history books anymore.

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Why are these assclowns who openly promote Nazism allowed to post their hateful bullshit here?
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Explain this....

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After you explain this....


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Treblinka death camp claims proven to be a HOAX




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Matt is just a troll, he doesn't believe or care about any of this.

He types outrageous things so that people will respond and he can feel important.

Use all the facts and logic you want, he only cares if you reply to him.

Why feed him?
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A modern crematorium takes 1 to 2.5 hours to cremate a body, and the oven gets up to 1400-1600 degrees Fahrenheit.

A wood-fired brick oven can only get up to about 800-1000 degrees Fahrenheit, and that's what they had at Auschwitz.

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So I figure it would take about 4 hours to burn a body to ash, using the Nazi oven method.

Wikipedia says a lot of bodies were burned in open pits, which seems really inefficient and would take forever, so this is hard to quantify:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

According to this book (also referenced by Wikipedia) there were 1,471,595 deaths at Auschwitz:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschw...EREFPiper1994b

4 * 1,471,595 = 5,886,38 Jew-Burn-Hours

Divide by 24, and that's 245,265 Jew-Burn-Days

According to PBS, there were 46 ovens at Auschwitz (greatly over estimated numbers, but whatever).

So 245,265 divided by 46 = 5,331 days = 14 years and 7 months.

If all 46 ovens were running 24/7 at full capacity, it would have taken 14 years and 7 months to burn all those bodies. Except the entire 3rd Reich only lasted 12 years. The math just doesn't add up.

Also if you figure in the logistics of getting so many bodies out of "gas chambers" and dragging them one floor down, where the ovens were located and the whole thing sounds surreal.
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Old 10-18-2017, 04:51 PM   #41
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The math just doesn't add up.
Nothing adds up with the holohoax.

It was fabricated in the days of easily controlled newspapers, books and radio.

The truth could never spread except though very isolated word of mouth. Then the internet hit and exposed their lies on a massive scale for the world to see.
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Evil Nazis exterminated all jews at Auschwitz, but only after those jews watched some movies, got laid, read some books, went for a swim, played sports, relaxed in a sauna, made some art, had babies and filed some complaints.

I'd REALLY love to see a few brainwashed GFYers explain this one.



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The zyklon b was used to fumigate clothing after lice outbreaks.

Lice carried typhus.

Typhus killed many internment camp residents, but only after the "evil Nazis" attempted to save them at the "killing camp" hospitals (this became difficult later in the war as supplies dwindled).

After they died the gold was indeed extracted from their teeth.
they should put you in jail just like this guy.
What you say is a real offence for all those that survived and witnessed what happened there.
Also, I was born in a country where Nazi German machinery has the most of these places, its really offence to me what you are saying...not sure how fucking retarded you should be to believe in such things
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Treblinka fake...in camps dentists, sauna, soccer field and "artist studio"

this guy is retarded below any level
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they should put you in jail just like this guy.
you like hitler
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They should put you in jail just like this guy.
What you say is a real offence for all those that survived and witnessed what happened there.
Are you a holocaust survivor? Why do you feel offended?

Should we start jailing everyone whose opinion offends you?

Also, they jailed an 88 years old grandma for her opinion, not a "guy". Sounds like something a Nazi Germany would do.
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yap, you put the quotations on the wrong word, here you go: Germany to send 88yo to prison for six months -- Simply for stating illegal "facts"
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no, but my grandparents knew someone that was. Also, some of their friends luckily avoided to be sent to all those places "that didnt exist". Also, they know people that were helping all these "bad subhumans" to not be sent to all these places that "didnt exist".

now GTFO you nazi scum

actually, if you are from that EU country that I think you are, no surprises here. It was one of the few that participated great in creating their own SS divisions, so prolly thats where your granparents served LOL.
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A modern crematorium takes 1 to 2.5 hours to cremate a body, and the oven gets up to 1400-1600 degrees Fahrenheit.

A wood-fired brick oven can only get up to about 800-1000 degrees Fahrenheit, and that's what they had at Auschwitz.

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So I figure it would take about 4 hours to burn a body to ash, using the Nazi oven method.

Wikipedia says a lot of bodies were burned in open pits, which seems really inefficient and would take forever, so this is hard to quantify:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

According to this book (also referenced by Wikipedia) there were 1,471,595 deaths at Auschwitz:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschw...EREFPiper1994b

4 * 1,471,595 = 5,886,38 Jew-Burn-Hours

Divide by 24, and that's 245,265 Jew-Burn-Days

According to PBS, there were 46 ovens at Auschwitz (greatly over estimated numbers, but whatever).

So 245,265 divided by 46 = 5,331 days = 14 years and 7 months.

If all 46 ovens were running 24/7 at full capacity, it would have taken 14 years and 7 months to burn all those bodies. Except the entire 3rd Reich only lasted 12 years. The math just doesn't add up.

Also if you figure in the logistics of getting so many bodies out of "gas chambers" and dragging them one floor down, where the ovens were located and the whole thing sounds surreal.
did you learn this rhetoric from goebbels himself?

you prove your point by making an maths on auschwitz.

so i want to give you a few other names of KZs inthe 3rd reich. Multiply again.

Ahrensbök
Alt-Daber
Bad Sulza
Benninghausen
Börnicke
Bredow
Brandenburg an der Havel
Breitenau
Buchenau
Breslau-Dürrgoy
Columbia-Haus
Dachau
Emslandlager
Eutin
Heuberg
Hohnstein
Kemna
Kislau
Königstein-Halbestadt
Kuhlen
Leschwitz
Lichtenburg
Meisnerhof
Mißler
KZ Neustadt an der Haardt
Oranienburg
Osthofen
Perleberg
Sachsenburg
Sonnenburg
Senftenberg
Wasserturm Berlin-Prenzlauer Berg
Vechta
Wittmoor
Arbeitsdorf-Fallersleben
Auschwitz-Stammlager
Auschwitz-Birkenau
Auschwitz-Monowitz
Bergen-Belsen
Buchenwald
Dachau
Flossenbürg
Groß-Rosen
Gusen
Herzogenbusch-Vught
Hinzert
Riga-Kaiserwald
Kaunas
Majdanek-Lublin
Mauthausen
Mittelbau[3]
Moringen
Natzweiler/Struthof
Neuengamme
Niederhagen / Wewelsburg
Plaszow
Ravensbrück
Sachsenhausen
Stutthof
Vaivara
Warschau

out of that where in the fucking history books do you see that all jews where burned?
did you here about mass graves ever?
have you been at one of this concentration camps ever?

there is only one thing I really envy you: you can never get brain cancer
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