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Old 11-17-2017, 04:10 PM   #51
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Maybe he should switch parties. That way you guys will defend him like you defend Chump and Moore
I have no idea what went down with the kissing scene, but touching breasts while she was a sleep seems like a prank that has not much to do with "sexual assault" and more with a fraternity style jock prank. (he is too old for such a childish prank, of course)
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That's sexual harassment right there.
Both of them would disagree with you. They call it foreplay!
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I have no idea what went down with the kissing scene, but touching breasts while she was a sleep seems like a prank that has not much to do with "sexual assault" and more with a fraternity style jock prank. (he is too old for such a childish prank, of course)
He didn't actually touch her breasts though. This is what pisses me off about all these news organizations. And I mean, all of them, right and left. They are using the term "groped" and "touched". But if we are just talking about the picture, there is no touching or groping.

He is too old for such a childish prank, of course? He was a comedian. He was there to be childish and funny. He was there to boost moral.

The outrage over all of this is what is really childish. The left is shooting themselves in the foot on this one.
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Whoa!! That is some fucking creepy ass shit right there!!
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Whoa!! That is some fucking creepy ass shit right there!!
I think he dropped a load
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Everyone has a Ron Jeremy story...
I imagine they do. But the incident I am referring to is not something that anyone should be allowed to get away with, and I am not talking about simply groping here. I don't want to go into details about the incident, because the victim, as far as I know, is happily married now. I doubt she wants any of this hashed out again.

I will conclude that I totally believe the accusations against Ron. However, if you see any of the comments in mainstream media outlets, there aren't many people that take any of his accusers seriously. They are referred to as whores and basically "asking for it" because they were in porn or at a porn expo or convention. Ron is seen as a hero to men. These same MSM outlet user comments are either someone commenting the women were whores or they are praising him for being "the man".
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He's a pretty big libtard hero. MSNBC will find a way to defend and differentiate his conduct.
Not really.. I personally never liked him. IMO he was just as bad as guys like McCain or Rand Paul.. lots of face time in front of the media with out doing much.
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The reality is Roy Moore's chances nose dived, and for obvious reasons. You can argue someone is a Republican all you want, but they don't like electing someone who is accused by multiple women of child rape.
We don't have ANY idea if Moore's chances nose-dived or not. The polls can't be trusted.

And being "accused" is a lot different than being guilty of something.

Hell, I don't know what he did or didn't do. But I do know that (as I said earlier)...if we are going to start just convicting people from accusations, then we are all fucked.

As I said...let the VOTERS decide.
And you can't blame them for being suspicious of the media and the left wing politicians. They have done this so many times to so many politicians...who then immediately DID drop out of races even though they didn't do anything wrong (remember Herman Cain?).

Trump was the first one to say "fuck you" to all of them and stay in the race. And he won.

Maybe if the fake news media and the fake outraged Democrat Party would stop screaming "wolf" every couple of days...then maybe people could take them seriously again.

In the meantime, the people of Alabama who know Roy Moore best, will make THEIR decision at the polls.
God knows the media, the Democrats, and the establishment Republicans (McConnell, McCain, Ryan, etc.) have done their best to destroy his reputation.

So it should be a cakewalk for the Democrat (Jones) to win...
But until that actually happens, I find it disgusting that McConnell is working feverishly to figure out a way to STOP the vote from happening AND to figure out a way to expel Moore from the Senate if it does.

And the worst part? It was just reported a couple of days ago that Congress has paid out over 11 MILLION DOLLARS of tax payer money to women who have accused sitting Senators and Congressmen of sexual assault!

Unreal! The hypocrisy of politicians is simply astounding.
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In the meantime, the people of Alabama who know Roy Moore best, will make THEIR decision at the polls.
True, but then we all have to deal with him then.
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We don't have ANY idea if Moore's chances nose-dived or not. The polls can't be trusted.
You understand how polls work, right? Sometimes they can be wrong. It's a sampling.

I'm pretty sure we are still trusting polls.
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Looking forward to the real stuff about others to come out. This one is just a teaser.
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Melanie Morgan: After TV appearance, Al Franken harassed me too

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Melanie Morgan: After TV appearance, Al Franken harassed me too

https://mediaequalizer.com/brian-mal...arassed-me-too
Wanting to continue a political argument is not sexual harassment.

Here this is a article from a real conservative

https://www.mediaite.com/online/i-loathe-al-franken-but-it-sure-seems-like-he-is-getting-totally-railroaded/#disqus_thread
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You understand how polls work, right? Sometimes they can be wrong. It's a sampling.

I'm pretty sure we are still trusting polls.
No, I'm pretty sure YOU are still trusting polls.

You can't take 500 people and COLD call them and ask them questions and get reliable answers that reflect millions of people.
And especially in these days of extreme partisan politics.
Pollsters can affect the poll by the way they ask a question.

For instance, if the question is asked: "Do you agree with Trump's angry rhetoric and dangerous stance towards North Korea"
You will get a much different poll result than if you rephrased that as: "Do you agree with President Trump's strategy of tough talk with the rogue North Korean regime".

THAT is how polls "work" Rochard. The people doing the polls are looking for an answer that they WANT to hear.

You are maddeningly obtuse to how things really work in this world. It's like I'm talking to some little old man from the 1920's. lol
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Looking forward to the real stuff about others to come out. This one is just a teaser.
It has been pretty entertaining to see how Hollywood carried on about a "war on women" and wagged their fingers preaching to all of us (as if they aren't the most decadent culture in all of the U.S.)....and then seeing that they were hypocrites the whole time and were abusing women AND keeping silent about it as an industry. lol

And it's funny watching Congress get "outraged" over Franken and Moore...while at the same time it's just been revealed that they have paid out 11 MILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer money to silence women that sitting Senators and Representatives have sexually abused.

But what I REALLY want to see next is...Anderson Cooper being accused of groping other men. Or Jake Tapper getting accused of sexual harrassment. Or Don Lemon.
LOL.
Not sure if there is enough sex drive in ANY of the CNN talk show hosts to have ever done anything untowards...but it would be funny as hell to watch them endure the same accusations that they breathlessly report as THE most important news in the world!
(Matter of fact, they haven't reported ANY other news stories in the past 2 weeks except "sex" and "russia"...apparently nothing else exists in the whole world.)
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It has been pretty entertaining to see how Hollywood carried on about a "war on women" and wagged their fingers preaching to all of us (as if they aren't the most decadent culture in all of the U.S.)....and then seeing that they were hypocrites the whole time and were abusing women AND keeping silent about it as an industry. lol

And it's funny watching Congress get "outraged" over Franken and Moore...while at the same time it's just been revealed that they have paid out 11 MILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer money to silence women that sitting Senators and Representatives have sexually abused.

But what I REALLY want to see next is...Anderson Cooper being accused of groping other men. Or Jake Tapper getting accused of sexual harrassment. Or Don Lemon.
LOL.
Not sure if there is enough sex drive in ANY of the CNN talk show hosts to have ever done anything untowards...but it would be funny as hell to watch them endure the same accusations that they breathlessly report as THE most important news in the world!
(Matter of fact, they haven't reported ANY other news stories in the past 2 weeks except "sex" and "russia"...apparently nothing else exists in the whole world.)
Why do you REALLY want to see that shit? In order for someone to be accused, there is a chance someone is a victim.

Maybe you should rethink that fucking statement.

Hey, as long as that stock market is up.
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But what I REALLY want to see next is...Anderson Cooper being accused of groping other men. Or Jake Tapper getting accused of sexual harrassment. Or Don Lemon.
LOL.
Not sure if there is enough sex drive in ANY of the CNN talk show hosts to have ever done anything untowards...but it would be funny as hell to watch them endure the same accusations that they breathlessly report as THE most important news in the world!
(Matter of fact, they haven't reported ANY other news stories in the past 2 weeks except "sex" and "russia"...apparently nothing else exists in the whole world.)
People that don't commit sexual assault is due to not enough sex drive? Or are you saying people that do commit sexual assaults is simply because of a high sex drive? Either way that's some fucked up shit you're saying.
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Why do you REALLY want to see that shit? In order for someone to be accused, there is a chance someone is a victim.

Maybe you should rethink that fucking statement.

Hey, as long as that stock market is up.
Wow, you sure got "outraged".
Well played! You fit in well with all of this nonsense. 😊
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the accusers work for Hillary, .
Since you are in the blaming the victim mode,

Who do you think is Leeann Tweeden ????

Check out her career ( Fox ) , employers ( Fox ) : self-admited conservative ....
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Who do you think is Leeann Tweeden ????

Check out her career ( Fox ) , employers ( Fox ) : self-admited conservative ....
She's the woman who Al Franken admitted sexually harassing.

Since when is stating a simple fact considered "blaming the victim mode"??

BOMBSHELL: Roy Moore?s Accuser Worked for Hillary Clinton and is Currently Campaigning for Moore?s Opponent Doug Jones

You understand how facts work, yes?

Roy Moore has campaigned plenty of times. But this time it's a senate seat so the Democrats do their typical dirty tricks. So dumb, he'll still win.

That yearbook signature looks faker than a 3 dollar bill. The voters will see right through it.
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He didn't actually touch her breasts though. This is what pisses me off about all these news organizations. And I mean, all of them, right and left. They are using the term "groped" and "touched". But if we are just talking about the picture, there is no touching or groping.

He is too old for such a childish prank, of course? He was a comedian. He was there to be childish and funny. He was there to boost moral.

The outrage over all of this is what is really childish. The left is shooting themselves in the foot on this one.

He didn't touch or grope her while she was sleeping??? Are you fucking blind!!!! Holy shit, new level of fucking crazy. Holy gas-lighting, dude!!!
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He didn't touch or grope her while she was sleeping??? Are you fucking blind!!!! Holy shit, new level of fucking crazy. Holy gas-lighting, dude!!!
No he didn't "actually" touch or grope her while she was sleeping.

Here is the picture, just so we are talking about the same picture....



There is no physical contact there. Maybe Franken's team photoshopped the shadow underneath his hands..LOL
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People that don't commit sexual assault is due to not enough sex drive? Or are you saying people that do commit sexual assaults is simply because of a high sex drive? Either way that's some fucked up shit you're saying.
Fact: As internet porn spread, rape cases went down.
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She's the woman who Al Franken admitted sexually harassing.

Since when is stating a simple fact considered "blaming the victim mode"??

BOMBSHELL: Roy Moore?s Accuser Worked for Hillary Clinton and is Currently Campaigning for Moore?s Opponent Doug Jones

You understand how facts work, yes?

Roy Moore has campaigned plenty of times. But this time it's a senate seat so the Democrats do their typical dirty tricks. So dumb, he'll still win.

That yearbook signature looks faker than a 3 dollar bill. The voters will see right through it.
Democrats? This is why you opinions are shit. This is politics. Both sides take up these scandals and make them political. You do not confuse free thinking people.

But keep trying.
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Second woman accuses Al Franken of inappropriate touching | National Post

Second woman accuses Al Franken of inappropriate touching

Lindsay Menz says Al Franken put his hand on her bottom as they posed for a picture at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010 — after he had begun his career in the Senate

She said as she posed with Franken, he “pulled me in really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear,” Menz said. “It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek.”

Menz said she told her husband, Jeremy Menz, and father Mark Brown about it right away. Both men affirmed that to CNN. Menz also said she posted the photo with Franken on Facebook on Aug. 27, and when her sister commented on the photo, she replied: “Dude – Al Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!”
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Second woman accuses Al Franken of inappropriate touching

Lindsay Menz says Al Franken put his hand on her bottom as they posed for a picture at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010 ? after he had begun his career in the Senate

She said as she posed with Franken, he ?pulled me in really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear,? Menz said. ?It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek.?

Menz said she told her husband, Jeremy Menz, and father Mark Brown about it right away. Both men affirmed that to CNN. Menz also said she posted the photo with Franken on Facebook on Aug. 27, and when her sister commented on the photo, she replied: ?Dude ? Al Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!?
He said, she said.
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He said, she said.
Says there's supposedly a photo on facebook. Surprised it wasn't in the article already though.

Edit: found the photo, it's just from the chest up so no proof.
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And it's funny watching Congress get "outraged" over Franken and Moore...while at the same time it's just been revealed that they have paid out 11 MILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer money to silence women that sitting Senators and Representatives have sexually abused.
I would love to see who was paid out and why.
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Says there's supposedly a photo on facebook. Surprised it wasn't in the article already though.

Edit: found the photo, it's just from the chest up so no proof.
Well, I mean, the bat shit crazies have a photo of him NOT touching a woman's breasts and say that he is. I guess it doesn't matter if the other photo shows it clearly or not.

Here is a huffpost article, (HP has not been particularly kind to Franken on this issue btw) from 8 women who have worked with Franken....


Female Former Franken Staffers Say He Was A ?Champion For Women?
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He just happened to be clicking through.... Like every other time.. lol
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