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Old 11-16-2017, 10:06 AM   #1
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Senator Al Franken sexually assaulted actress on USO tour

He insisted on rehearsing a kissing scene with the actress and then stuck his tongue in her mouth. Then later on he grabbed her breasts while she was asleep and took a photo of it.



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Wow he's done. Fuck him, he was grade A douchenozzle anyways
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Maybe he should switch parties. That way you guys will defend him like you defend Chump and Moore
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He's a pretty big libtard hero. MSNBC will find a way to defend and differentiate his conduct.
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"I certainly don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way, but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann,” he said. “As to the photo, it was clearly intended to be funny but wasn’t. I shouldn’t have done it.”

He apologized unlike you and your scumbag leaders who go after their accusers and call them liars and other things while making excuses. keep supporting pedo Moore and then try to act outraged at others

He'll get whatever he as coming to him.
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He apologized unlike you and your scumbag leaders
Show me a photo of Trump fondling breasts and I'll say he should quit.
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Society is disappointing. On one hand you have Roy Moore who is being accused of raping minors and he continues to deny it although it's plainly obvious he is lying. On the other hand you have comedian on a USO tour who is being accused of kissing a woman during a skit, and then taking a funny photo where it looks like he groped a woman who was sleeping.

I am surely not defending Al Franken, but I'll give him a lot of leeway because he was a comedian when this happened.

Here is the picture:



However, what amazes me is how these two people reacted to these accusations.

Roy Moore is denying everything. He said, on camera, that he has no idea who the latest victim was, that he had never met her, and never heard of the restaurant that she worked at. She came forward with her year book which he not only signed, but also mentioned the very restaurant he denied ever hearing about. Roy Moore is calling this a "political witch hunt".

On the other hand you have Al Franken. Shortly after this story broke he admitted he had done this, accepted it, apologized for it, and welcomed an investigation into his actions. He said - and I am quoting here - "I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate."

In fact, here is his full Facebook post:

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The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing?and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine?is: I'm sorry.

I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.
But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us?including and especially men who respect women?have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it?women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.
While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women?s experiences.

I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.


This is what I expect from an elected politician. When they do something wrong they accept it, own up to it, apologize for it, and then welcome an investigation. None of this fucking "deny, deflect" bullshit.
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Society is disappointing. On one hand you have Roy Moore who is being accused of raping minors and he continues to deny it although it's plainly obvious he is lying.

However, what amazes me is how these two people reacted to these accusations.

Roy Moore is denying everything. He said, on camera, that he has no idea who the latest victim was, that he had never met her, and never heard of the restaurant that she worked at. She came forward with her year book which he not only signed, but also mentioned the very restaurant he denied ever hearing about. Roy Moore is calling this a "political witch hunt".

This is what I expect from an elected politician. When they do something wrong they accept it, own up to it, apologize for it, and then welcome an investigation. None of this fucking "deny, deflect" bullshit.
Rochard, we have photographic evidence that Al Franken is a scum bag, as if we needed it.

You seem to believe it's impossible that Moore's accusers are lying. Is it not suspicios that the yearbook sig is written in 2 different color inks, he wasn't the D.A. as the sig says, and the name of the restaurant is misspelled? "He's guilty as sin!"

Sorry Rochard, you are clearly biased and it shows. Still defending Biden too? LOL

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Rochard, we have photographic evidence that Al Franken is a scum bag, as if we needed it.

You seem to believe it's impossible that Moore's accusers are lying. Is it not suspicios that the yearbook sig is written in 2 different color inks, he wasn't the D.A. as the sig says, and the name of the restaurant is misspelled? "He's guilty as sin!"

Sorry Rochard, you are clearly biased and it shows. Still defending Biden too? LOL

No, I am not biased. I could care less about Al Franken. I could care less about Al Franken the comedian, and I can care less about AL Freanken the Senator. I don't pay attention to him or what he does; The only reason I saw the Facebook post is because someone shared it. (I don't follow politicians on Facebook or in general.)

The difference here is how it's being handled. One is all about "deny and defelect" while the other is admitting what he's done, telling everyone he is sorry, and welcoming an ethics investigation.

Don't you see the difference?

And yes, Roy Moore is guilty as sin. Roy Moore denied knowing the woman, and in the same interview on camera denied having known about the restaurant where this took place. The following day this woman came forward with her high school yearbook he not only signed, but also referenced the exact restaurant he claimed to "not have heard of". It was well known he was a pervert into teenagers; He was banned from the local mall for being so creepy.

No, I am not biased. Right is right, wrong is wrong. If the anyone at the Podesta group broke laws then they need to be arrested, charged, and brought to trial. Weiner - striaght to jail. He is obviously a pervert who has a huge problem, and deserves to be punished for his actions.

This is not Republican vs Democrat. i am tired of our elected politicians doing what they want and getting away with it. It seems it was just released over $15 million dollars has been paid out by Congress for sexual harassment claims which has been quietly swept under the rug. Why? Why not make this information public, and then for anyone accused of wrong doing let's have an ethics commission look into their actions and remove them from office - Republican or Democrat.

But let's have another investigation into Hillary Clinton - You know, just to be sure that the other fourteen investigations didn't dig deep enough.
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How about a tape where he says "Grab 'em by the pussy"?
Or is only visual evidence good enough for you?

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How about a tape where he says "Grab 'em by the pussy"?
He's boasting about women coming on to rich guys.. They LET him grab = consenting adults, gimme a break
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No, I am not biased.

One is all about "deny and defelect" while the other is admitting what he's done, telling everyone he is sorry, and welcoming an ethics investigation.

Don't you see the difference?

And yes, Roy Moore is guilty as sin. He was banned from the local mall for being so creepy.

No, I am not biased.

This is not Republican vs Democrat. Why not make this information public, and then for anyone accused of wrong doing let's have an ethics commission look into their actions and remove them from office - Republican or Democrat.

But let's have another investigation into Hillary Clinton - You know, just to be sure that the other fourteen investigations didn't dig deep enough.
I'm stunned at the enormous amount of BS in this post.

- Roy Moore was never accused of anything until just before an election?? Only the gullible believe this. There's no solid evidence. One woman worked for Hillary LOL

- Moore was NOT "banned from the mall" for cruising for underage girls.

More #FakeNews: Former Gadsden, Alabama Mall Manager Says “Roy Moore Was NOT BANNED From Mall” (Video)

- Hillary got away with TONS of shit with the help of her criminal friends like Comey, Lynch, Holder, Mueller, & many others. They ALL need to be investigated.

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How about just showing me a photo of Franken fondling breasts.
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[SIZE="3"]Roy Moore was never accused of anything until just before an election?? Only the gullible believe this.
And suddenly this complaint about Franken just "magically" came up?

Yes. Roy Moore is running for office, and finally someone decided to take actions. This is how it usually is with such crimes - women are afraid to report them. Finally one of them gets the courage to open up and then the floodgates open.

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[SIZE="3"]There's no solid evidence.
AGAIN... Roy Moore claimed not to have known this woman, and claims to have not known about this restaurant. Yet magically this woman has her HIGH SCHOOL year book he not only wrote a note in it, but also mentioned the restaurant. This alone proves he is lying.

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[SIZE="3"]Moore was NOT "banned from the mall" for cruising for underage girls.
He wasn't?

Former mall worker in Roy Moore’s hometown confirms embarrassing rumor – TheBlaze
Roy Moore accuser: I got him banned from the mall - ABC News
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0bc648a0da9f9
https://www.thedailybeast.com/report...pursuing-teens
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...e-gadsden-mall
http://www.businessinsider.com/roy-m...-girls-2017-11

Seems to be a lot of reports of him being banned from the mall.

In fact, it seems like a lot of people who knew him said he was "liked younger girls".

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[SIZE="3"]Hillary got away with TONS of shit with the help of her criminal friends like Comey, Lynch, Holder, Mueller, & many others. They ALL need to be investigated.
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Deflect, deny, deflect. This is now the standard Republican defense. "It's a political witch hunt".

Yes, let's talk about what President Clinton was impeached for decades ago.

This is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Roy Moore is all about "deny, deflect" while Al Franken just stood up, admitted what he done, admitted how wrong it was, and welcomed an ethics investigation.
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He insisted on rehearsing a kissing scene with the actress and then stuck his tongue in her mouth. Then later on he grabbed her breasts while she was asleep and took a photo of it.



http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leean...or-al-franken/


I'm sure you really hate this kind of behavior.
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Infowars Called It! Correctly Predicts Al Franken Sex Scandal

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Allow me to submit "Exhibit B - Leeann Tweeden's bare breasts", as further evidence against the Honorable Senator Al Franken. Please examine closely the bodily parts which were allegedly fondled by the defendant, as we continue to build our case.

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Trumptards are out in full force.

9 accusers against Roy Moore but let's focus on Senator Al Franken lol.

Senator Al Franken apologized and called for an ethics investigation while republitards make excuses, blame the victims, deflect, lie, and turn a blind eye.





The woman who accused Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) of sexual misconduct said Thursday she accepts his apology.

"The apology, sure I accept it, yes. People make mistakes and of course he knew he made a mistake," Leeann Tweeden said. "So yes I do accept that apology. There's no reason why I shouldn't accept his apology."

She said it's up to Congress to decide if it wants to have an ethics investigation into Franken's behavior, adding that she isn?t calling for Franken to step down, unless more women come forward.
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He's not even touching her tits in the pic. He just has the photo shot to look like it.
For fuck's sake.
This is starting to get stupid. He was just goofing around in that pic.

Claudia and I were out the other night seeing a band and some girl at the bar slapped me on the ass and told me she liked my ass.
I certainly didn't feel sexually "assaulted". I felt complimented.

Of course women shouldn't be used against their will...but is this the end of men and women being able to joke and play and flirt?

As I see it...we men have a 50/50 chance with any woman. You can go up to a girl and tell her you think she's hot. If she thinks you're attractive...then she will accept that and maybe a conversation strikes up that may lead to sex later.
If NOT...then I guess by todays rules you just made an "Unwanted Sexual Advance" on her.

I'm not trying to excuse actual rape or "sexual assault". But the definitions of these things are really starting to get blurred.
I'm scared to have any social contact at all with women now.

I don't agree with Al Franken on his economic views. But this is not an "issue" in my opinion. It's just dumb.
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Claudia and I were out the other night seeing a band and some girl at the bar slapped me on the ass and told me she liked my ass.
I certainly didn't feel sexually "assaulted". I felt complimented.
I want to agree with you, but I think it's a bit different for women.

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But this is not an "issue" in my opinion. It's just dumb.
I agree with you; I think it's over blown.

However, I like the way he handled it. He didn't try to deny or deflect, he accepted it, and welcome any potential investigation that might follow.
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I want to agree with you, but I think it's a bit different for women.



He didn't try to deny or deflect, he accepted it, and welcome any potential investigation that might follow.
On the "different for women"... I think so too. But I've also spent my entire life listening to feminists in the 1960's, 1970's, all the way up to right now...claiming they want to be treated as "equal" to men.
So they are either able to handle a slap on THEIR ass from time to time in a bar OR...they are hypocrites and "victims".
Seems like they want it both ways?

As far as Franken "handling" it...uh, he didn't have any way to deny it. He took a picture. lol

I suppose that if you are accused of doing something and you didn't do it and you deny it...then that's supposed to be "bad"?
Is that what you're saying?

So if I accuse you of sexually assaulting me...and you deny it. Then you didn't "handle it" the right way?
Would you say "Yes" you did it...even though you didn't?

That's kind of the conundrum we find ourselves in.
If you deny it, you are a liar. If you admit it, you're a sexual predator. Lose/Lose
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What Robbie doesn't understand is that the pic supplements a little context for the whole incident she described.
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I agree the picture is in poor taste, but I don't see any actual groping.
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For fuck's sake.
This is starting to get stupid. He was just goofing around in that pic.

Claudia and I were out the other night seeing a band and some girl at the bar slapped me on the ass and told me she liked my ass.
I certainly didn't feel sexually "assaulted". I felt complimented.

Of course women shouldn't be used against their will...but is this the end of men and women being able to joke and play and flirt?

As I see it...we men have a 50/50 chance with any woman. You can go up to a girl and tell her you think she's hot. If she thinks you're attractive...then she will accept that and maybe a conversation strikes up that may lead to sex later.
If NOT...then I guess by todays rules you just made an "Unwanted Sexual Advance" on her.

I'm not trying to excuse actual rape or "sexual assault". But the definitions of these things are really starting to get blurred.
I'm scared to have any social contact at all with women now.

I don't agree with Al Franken on his economic views. But this is not an "issue" in my opinion. It's just dumb.
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I agree the picture is in poor taste, but I don't see any actual groping.
Not to mention she's wearing body armor. You could poke her with a knife in the breast and she wouldn't feel it.
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Infowars Called It! Correctly Predicts Al Franken Sex Scandal

Infowars reporters Roger Stone and Rob Dew predicted on Twitter that Al Franken?s sexual assault charges would soon come to light.

Al Franken Should Resign Today

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lol .... the tweet is made at : 1:20 AM - Nov 16, 2017


That is ..... TODAY ...... predict what ?

Al Franken recognizes his wrong doing , what Roy Moore cannot do .
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I see the hypocrite Chump is tweeting about this lol. That dumbfuck doesn't know when to stfu!
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He's not even touching her tits in the pic. He just has the photo shot to look like it.
For fuck's sake.
This is starting to get stupid. He was just goofing around in that pic.

Claudia and I were out the other night seeing a band and some girl at the bar slapped me on the ass and told me she liked my ass.
I certainly didn't feel sexually "assaulted". I felt complimented.

Of course women shouldn't be used against their will...but is this the end of men and women being able to joke and play and flirt?

As I see it...we men have a 50/50 chance with any woman. You can go up to a girl and tell her you think she's hot. If she thinks you're attractive...then she will accept that and maybe a conversation strikes up that may lead to sex later.
If NOT...then I guess by todays rules you just made an "Unwanted Sexual Advance" on her.

I'm not trying to excuse actual rape or "sexual assault". But the definitions of these things are really starting to get blurred.
I'm scared to have any social contact at all with women now.

I don't agree with Al Franken on his economic views. But this is not an "issue" in my opinion. It's just dumb.
I totally agree with you. Things like this lessen poor women who were really sexually assaulted. This is to deflect from Moore ,she is Hannity's BFF. Franken was smart,he said I dont remember it happening that way and I apologize. It kills the affect they were going for but the liberals want him on a stake. Which why he called for a investigation of him but it wont matter liberals want to hang him. Liberals are disgusting me , they are all yelling he has to go. A few things happened locally, I dont want to be a liberal anymore they are their own worst enemy. Im thinking of becoming a Rockefeller republican(those who are too young look it up).
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I agree the picture is in poor taste, but I don't see any actual groping.
she is also wearing a kevlar vest, there would be nothing grope but kevlar. Also Franked had no power over her. Al franken was no king maker like weinstein. She did 6 or 7 uso shows so it wasnt like she needed his approval to work.
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Here is the thing about this pic you guys are not getting. Now i like Al Franken..hsi economic policies are shit..but i feel he actually has the people at heart and wants good things for all people.

The issue with this pic is...the girl had no consent. She is sleeping and he is taking a pic..using her face/body to demean her.

That is what is wrong with the pic...even if he didn't actually touch her breasts...he fucked up and he knows it.

Now that being said...i read...on a bullshit conspiracy site called reddit...so maybe not true... there are 5 more pics in this series that have not been released which are worse.
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he needs to resign immediately, or be expelled from the senate
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And here is the disappointing part... Trump slammed Franken, but not a single word about Republican Roy Moore.

What Franken did was questionable at best and Trump slammed him, what Roy Moore did was raping children and not a single word about it from Trump.
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And here is the disappointing part... Trump slammed Franken, but not a single word about Republican Roy Moore.

What Franken did was questionable at best and Trump slammed him, what Roy Moore did was raping children and not a single word about it from Trump.
or his supporters. But they are sure gung ho on blasting everyone else while turning a blind eye to Pedo Moore.
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I dont like Al Franken. Didnt like his humor, dont like him as a politician.

But. . .

Look at the date and context of the photo. It's like a publicity still. He's looking at the camera.

And I don't know how much groping you can do when the "victim" is wearing a Kevlar vest.

We'll see how this plays out, but I just don't see this picture documenting "sexual assault".
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I dont like Al Franken. Didnt like his humor, dont like him as a politician.

But. . .

Look at the date and context of the photo. It's like a publicity still. He's looking at the camera.

And I don't know how much groping you can do when the "victim" is wearing a Kevlar vest.

We'll see how this plays out, but I just don't see this picture documenting "sexual assault".
As I said earlier....the picture isn't the big deal. It was the forced kiss. The picture is just there to help prove her story that he was targeting her with inappropriate behavior, as I'm sure a lot of guys did when she was in her prime.
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or his supporters. But they are sure gung ho on blasting everyone else while turning a blind eye to Pedo Moore.
They are also dragging out Bill Clinton too. Everyone except for Roy Moore.

Roy Moore is already done with. He is 8 points behind in the polling.
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As I said earlier....the picture isn't the big deal. It was the forced kiss. The picture is just there to help prove her story that he was targeting her with inappropriate behavior, as I'm sure a lot of guys did when she was in her prime.

And there's the issue I have with so many of the allegations coming out years and decades later.

It's he said, she said.

One woman's "forced kiss" is another man's peck on the cheek.

Impossible to prove.

And now allegations against Ron Jeremy?????

Getting out of control.
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I dont like Al Franken. Didnt like his humor, dont like him as a politician.

But. . .

Look at the date and context of the photo. It's like a publicity still. He's looking at the camera.

And I don't know how much groping you can do when the "victim" is wearing a Kevlar vest.

We'll see how this plays out, but I just don't see this picture documenting "sexual assault".
He took the photo with the event photographer who traveled around with them on the trip....
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What Franken did was questionable at best and Trump slammed him, what Roy Moore did was raping children and not a single word about it from Trump.
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They are also dragging out Bill Clinton too. Everyone except for Roy Moore.

Roy Moore is already done with. He is 8 points behind in the polling.
Rochard is obsessed with Roy Moore, even tho there's no evidence, the accusers work for Hillary, the yearbook sig is a forgery, and Gloria Allred has been known to parade women with fake accusations.

It's a political hit job, the DemonRats have no shame.
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Roy Moore is already done with. He is 8 points behind in the polling.
Don't know how the election will play out in Alabama...but dude come on! Polling? Seriously?
You STILL believe in that shit?

I've already pointed out to you how ridiculous it is to take 500 people and cold call them with a "poll", and THINK that represents millions of people.

You still don't understand that?

And now the talk shows on CNN are having their "panels" of "experts" (who are just other reporters on CNN along with various Democrat Party politicians and hacks) starting to admit that the polling is probably wrong.

I heard CNN's Gloria Borger yesterday say that she doesn't believe the polling.
She is saying that people who support Moore won't ADMIT it to a pollster. And she's trying to say that's what happened with Trump in the General election as well.

The polls are "fake".

I don't know (and neither do YOU or anyone in the media) if Roy Moore ever did any of these things he is accused of.
But I DO know that we are supposed to be the United States Of America.

And in the USA we have things called ELECTIONS.

If we take away the right of the people to elect who they want to represent them...then we are no longer living in a country that espouses Democracy.

Are you really wanting to allow the establishment "swamp" in Washington D.C. to decide who rules OVER you?

Or do you think the people of Alabama should decide for themselves?
They know better than Anderson Cooper or Don Lemon or reporters from the Washington Post exactly who and what Roy Moore is or isn't.

If they vote for Jones...so be it. If they vote for Moore...so be it.

Let the PEOPLE decide.
This isn't Russia, this is SUPPOSED to be the United States of America with free and fair elections to decide our representatives in government to SERVE us.
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Don't know how the election will play out in Alabama...but dude come on! Polling? Seriously?
You STILL believe in that shit?

I've already pointed out to you how ridiculous it is to take 500 people and cold call them with a "poll", and THINK that represents millions of people.

You still don't understand that?

And now the talk shows on CNN are having their "panels" of "experts" (who are just other reporters on CNN along with various Democrat Party politicians and hacks) starting to admit that the polling is probably wrong.

I heard CNN's Gloria Borger yesterday say that she doesn't believe the polling.
She is saying that people who support Moore won't ADMIT it to a pollster. And she's trying to say that's what happened with Trump in the General election as well.

The polls are "fake".

I don't know (and neither do YOU or anyone in the media) if Roy Moore ever did any of these things he is accused of.
But I DO know that we are supposed to be the United States Of America.

And in the USA we have things called ELECTIONS.

If we take away the right of the people to elect who they want to represent them...then we are no longer living in a country that espouses Democracy.

Are you really wanting to allow the establishment "swamp" in Washington D.C. to decide who rules OVER you?

Or do you think the people of Alabama should decide for themselves?
They know better than Anderson Cooper or Don Lemon or reporters from the Washington Post exactly who and what Roy Moore is or isn't.

If they vote for Jones...so be it. If they vote for Moore...so be it.

Let the PEOPLE decide.
This isn't Russia, this is SUPPOSED to be the United States of America with free and fair elections to decide our representatives in government to SERVE us.
You sure watch a lot of CNN.
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You sure watch a lot of CNN.
CNN, OAN, FNC, and MSNBC. I can't help it...I have always been a news junkie.
I even listen them when I'm driving on Sirius radio. lol

But of course...that doesn't address what I said to you: Let the PEOPLE decide in the voting booth.
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As I said earlier....the picture isn't the big deal. It was the forced kiss. The picture is just there to help prove her story that he was targeting her with inappropriate behavior, as I'm sure a lot of guys did when she was in her prime.

Here's the problem with that. This picture shows nothing wrong to me. So its supposed to solidify her claim of forceful kissing?


Maybe the kiss was forceful. Maybe it wasn't. Not easy to prove when it first happened.

Impossible to prove 10+ years later.


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I even listen them when I'm driving on Sirius radio. lol
I get most of my news online these days, and try to avoid news on TV unless there is some big event.

I watched a little bit of CNN while they were talking about Franken, right up until Jake Tapper had the woman on and... I just couldn't stand her. It was odd. I felt like I wanted to hate fuck her. Odd.

I don't get my news online from one source; I use news feeds, different ones depending on what device I am on. Oddly enough I use different ones for my PC, laptop, and cell phone.

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But of course...that doesn't address what I said to you: Let the PEOPLE decide in the voting booth.
Polls is all we have. I know what you are going to say - they called Trump wrong. It happens; It's happens before. But in the mean time polls is all we have.

The reality is Roy Moore's chances nose dived, and for obvious reasons. You can argue someone is a Republican all you want, but they don't like electing someone who is accused by multiple women of child rape.
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And there's the issue I have with so many of the allegations coming out years and decades later.

It's he said, she said.

One woman's "forced kiss" is another man's peck on the cheek.

Impossible to prove.

And now allegations against Ron Jeremy?????

Getting out of control.
Ron Jeremy is an entirely different can a worms. Allegations against him have been around for awhile. I used to like Ron Jeremy, until an incident that happened at one of the shows.

Some of the recent allegations are eerily similar to what happened at that show and as far as I know, this is one that hasn't been reported.

My guess is he will get a free pass because he is in porn. Nothing happened to him after Ginger made accusations.
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Ron Jeremy is an entirely different can a worms. Allegations against him have been around for awhile. I used to like Ron Jeremy, until an incident that happened at one of the shows.

Some of the recent allegations are eerily similar to what happened at that show and as far as I know, this is one that hasn't been reported.

My guess is he will get a free pass because he is in porn. Nothing happened to him after Ginger made accusations.
Everyone has a Ron Jeremy story...
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