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Old 12-07-2017, 01:55 PM   #101
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Well, maybe I'm not an expert in politic but I think that people hate Trump because when he talks it's disrecpectful with latin american people and all the foreigns, also because he thinks that the global warming is like an "invent" from some persons who don't want that the world continue developing technology and creating capitalist empires.... well, I repeat it's just my opinion, maybe I should meet him to talk properly hahaha
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:11 AM   #102
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i think you are far behind the reality.
let china fail and the first what is fucked is USA. and after that europe.
the real problem is not chinas power - the problem comes when they fail.

all your stats just show one thing: china have the more interesting products for USA and USA have not enough products for china.
but maybe research how much china is buying from US.
the only thing they donīt buy and need are american weapons.
but unfortunately this is the only worldwide market where US is doing a great marketing.
they take care that countries are bombed with US bombs.
and the Chinese and European Union have the products for reconstruct them.

the funny thing is that even the US weapon industry could not compete without deliveries from china.

the truth is that we should WORRY about chinaīs health because meanwhile not one country in the world can live without them.

one of the worldīs biggest industries is travel market.
they made a hype like no other. do you know WHY ? because of the chinese !

trump saved 50.000 coal worker jobs and went out of the paris climate contract.
since that MILLIONS of jobs in the renewable energies where created. also a few in USA
but even THEM would not survive without china deliveries.

maybe trump would say you are right but trump is the guy who does not have a CLUE of whatīs going on. in this 11 month under trump USA already lost so much that it will take CENTURIES to get it back. and AFTER those centuries USA is only at status quo and not one step further.
letīs see where china and the european union is than.
maybe the next generation will discuss about US-immigrants what have to leave their country because there is no life anymore.
I agree fully with your argument. Now China has so much of the US economy in its grip we have no choice. Just force them to balance the trade. If onlt the politicians had known what they were giving away back in the day. Or maybe they did but the corporations ordered them to lose American jobs and send them to China.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:15 AM   #103
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Look at a map, will you? What you are saying is Canada has no money? Or Australia? Or Mexico? Or any of the countries in South America?
Canada and Ausdtralia are fine. But countries like Vietnam, Mexico, etc. Sell more than they buy.



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This is the part you don't get.... The trade imbalance is still there, still exists, and now the United States has LESS bargaining power than before.
Agree. See what your politicians have done to your country. The bargaining power the US is the enormous buying power it has. But if no one is willing to use it, it's useless.
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:04 AM   #104
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I agree fully with your argument. Now China has so much of the US economy in its grip we have no choice. Just force them to balance the trade. If onlt the politicians had known what they were giving away back in the day. Or maybe they did but the corporations ordered them to lose American jobs and send them to China.
paul the point is the following:

the MOST imports from china are used for products what USA exports in the whole world.

USA have an advantage because they can buy cheap in china and can compete with their own products in the international market.

if china delivers much more as they buy does not mean that this money comes back FROM china. the exports are going into the rest of the world and they would not exist without the cheap labour and parts from china.

when you drive to the gasoline station and pay 100 euro for a full tank you can not say the the owner of the gasoline station have to buy for 100 euro from you, because he possibly donīt want or need your product but you need his gasoline to see your customers.
if you do not buy gasoline anymore because the gasoline station owners donīt buy from you - you must close your biz.

if america wants news jobs they should look into the NEW WORLD and not in the yesterday world.
cancelling the paris contract AND producing millions of new jobs in this green energy economy does not go together.
other countries (and here again especially china) did it and growing like crazy.

so WHO is the failure in the game - the one who does not see opportunities and works in the pocket of the existing establishment or the ones who see it do it and win ?

trump even gave china the complete asian market on a silver tray. the idiot canceled the transatlantic deals and china jumped in.
trillions of dollars in trades in the next decades what trump have throwing in the waste.

i am sure it does not hit him personally because even when the country will loose there are a couple of winners and they will say thank you to trump somehow.
but it is out of ANY doubt that he ruins the american economy in a speed what is really unique. it will take less than 2 years til EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD can see that.
and even when they impeach him tomorrow the damage will need decades to be repaired.
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:17 AM   #105
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I just keep seeing the title of this thread on the board and it's so funny to me that someone needs to ask why such an obviously vile piece of shit is so hated. Is that question an attempt at deadpan humor? Watching the behavior of Donald Trump and not seeing a garbage human being is a character flaw.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:16 AM   #106
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I just keep seeing the title of this thread on the board and it's so funny to me that someone needs to ask why such an obviously vile piece of shit is so hated. Is that question an attempt at deadpan humor? Watching the behavior of Donald Trump and not seeing a garbage human being is a character flaw.
For the first time, a president is delivering on his campaign promises.

No valid reason not to like what he's done / doing
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:20 AM   #107
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For the first time, a president is delivering on his campaign promises.

No valid reason not to like what he's done / doing
Campaign promises are for suckers.
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:33 AM   #108
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such an obviously vile piece of shit is so hated.
talk about being bitter, damn... You got any actual facts your hatred is based on, or is it only your mainstream media manipulated emotions? By facts i mean cold hard facts, no biased stories ridden with emotions from bitter 'journalists'. Just facts. Good luck!
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:35 AM   #109
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Campaign promises are for suckers.
what!

Actually doing what you promised the people, that voted on you because of what you promised... is now a bad thing? WTF!!!
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:01 AM   #110
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Agree. See what your politicians have done to your country. The bargaining power the US is the enormous buying power it has. But if no one is willing to use it, it's useless.
So you agree that this is a bad decision. You just admitted the trade imbalance continues, and now we are powerless to do anything about it.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:05 AM   #111
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So you agree that this is a bad decision. You just admitted the trade imbalance continues, and now we are powerless to do anything about it.
So a deal that makes it harder to eliminate the trade deficit should stay so the US can do what?

Access to the US is a prize the US can now hold as a ransom to those who buy US products.
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