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Old 01-05-2018, 07:35 AM   #1
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Do you still get Google traffic nowadays? SERPS are fucked

Hi everyone,

I was wondering, is no one seeing the overall situation in Google lately for adult traffic? There is a massive filtering happening for a while now and there is no sign of reverting it.

Unless you use special keys like xxx, fuck , porn along with another key, it's hard to find adult sites.

For example, for a search like "girlfriend sucking dick" I get in Google US only 14 adult results out of 30. So that's half. There are even worse results than that.

I was searching my own long tailed keys for which I was getting a lot of traffic in past and now nothing, only garbage non adult results.

As result, I start getting more traffic from Bing, Yahoo and Baidu. Maybe Google has started filtering adult for real? Not just some temporary algo shit. Maybe there is a a general trend and to expect even more filtering.
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As result, I start getting more traffic from Bing, Yahoo and Baidu. Maybe Google has started filtering adult for real? Not just some temporary algo shit. Maybe there is a a general trend and to expect even more filtering.
maybe you've heard about it that Google personalizes searches?
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I am getting same results with private browsing and different browsers. How is that personalized? It's not the case. Also other webmasters are seeing same serps results.
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Yes, Google is filtering adult for real. A legal business sector is being blackballed by a search engine, and social media platforms, and it sucks.

Are you sure that you're getting more traffic from Yahoo, Bing & Baidu or is it that you're getting the same traffic as previously, what is a higher percentage of your overall traffic because Google traffic has declined?
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Yes, there is a slight increase from Bing, Yahoo etc. but indeed, percentages have changed because Google traffic dropped hard.

Middle of September update, that's the one to blame. They did that shit and did not revert it. Afraid that it might become the new reality.
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Yes, Google is filtering adult for real. A legal business sector is being blackballed by a search engine, and social media platforms, and it sucks.
Then explain it me this:


in which place traffic from google has decreased?

google personalizes search results even in country city district locations. the comparison does not give objective results for several months !!! differences you will see in the same city!
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Seriously? You show me 100 hits and say it grew? I had site with 20,000 SE visitors / daily that dropped to 1,000 / daily and much of traffic lost was the long tailed one. I can show you other sites of mine that grew from 0 SE to 2k SE from Google. That's not the point here.

How is it personalized if I tell you that 10 people get the SAME results as me and they are from different countries and cities?? Sure, it may differ one position to another, but the global situation is what we are talking about.
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Seriously? You show me 100 hits and say it grew?
Seriously, I show you a progress - you see low or up?



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How is it personalized if I tell you that 10 people get the SAME results as me and they are from different countries and cities??
and do you test it ?: https://adwords.google.com/apt/AdPreview

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Maybe i don't know how to use it?



Where is the filtering of adult sites?
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Something is very wrong with Google searches for the past few months...
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You still don't get it. This is not about pornhub and xvideos, they get their share of SE anyway and there are permutations in places of course, as they are the biggest ones.

Problem is in small players, have you even checked 2d page and 3d page to see what's there? Or are those pages not significant?? Also in your screenshot you can see 2 places for xvideos and 2 places for pornhub. That's like searching for a laptop in Google and first 4-6 places are Amazon. Get the point? As stated above, problem is that further pages are very thin in adult results and very filtered.

Look, 2d page in Google for "wife interracial fuck":

https://imgur.com/a/UAM1u

Now tell me, what are your results and compare. This site "tigransk.ru" is definitely some malware one. Instead of being a legit site there, you get malware. How is personalization working here?
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Now tell me, what are your results and compare. This site "tigransk.ru" is definitely some malware one. Instead of being a legit site there, you get malware. How is personalization working here?
regarding this you are right, it is a complete crap. Anyway, what you see on this keyword is a noting, I do a seo for escort agencies and it's just fun. I can not give you the first 10-15 results are mailware, and Google has been doing nothing for years.
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Yeah, that is a big issue, Google is doing nothing for long time. So you get a first page with tubes results, ok, not a problem about that, but then next pages you get mostly crap and malware.
Because of that I lost a lot of SE traffic, as I was ranking very good on page 2 for many keywords.
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Because of that I lost a lot of SE traffic, as I was ranking very good on page 2 for many keywords.
Google is not interested in adult niche because there are no ads. (adsense on pages). and ads in serps are limited and expensive. They will never do anything about it. i know this issue from a minimum 2years and after 2 years is even worse.

Since then I have been doing SEO only with a white hat, at least I have high rankings and serps and I do not care about penguin and other shit.

they'll probably do something when some idiot will make XXX spam on the keyword with hotels or airlines
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This has absolutely been going on since September! My Google traffic is down 40%.

Also remember: while the first page is filled with tube results many, many smart surfers go immediately to page 2 or 3, knowing they are getting spammed with big players on the first page of Google results. Now that is gone and replaced with garbage.

Also, I suspect that the tubes getting the majority of SE traffic now are also seeing strange effects. Sure, traffic may be UP for them but I bet bounce rate has gone up too. Time on site down for the tubes. Views seem to be down on most videos on most homepages I check. Surfers will go to "the big boys" only so often and when they want to search deeper, like into a niche, they are finding garbage.
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Couple of years ago I was #1 for the term "online sex chat"

At the time that search had over 100 million results.

My site is long gone from page one now, but the interesting thing is that it currently only shows 17.4 million results. Don't know if that's a simply cleanup of spammy sites, or it's indicative of filtering. (17.4 million is still a hell of a lot of results for an adult search term.)
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This has absolutely been going on since September! My Google traffic is down 40%.

Also remember: while the first page is filled with tube results many, many smart surfers go immediately to page 2 or 3, knowing they are getting spammed with big players on the first page of Google results. Now that is gone and replaced with garbage.

Also, I suspect that the tubes getting the majority of SE traffic now are also seeing strange effects. Sure, traffic may be UP for them but I bet bounce rate has gone up too. Time on site down for the tubes. Views seem to be down on most videos on most homepages I check. Surfers will go to "the big boys" only so often and when they want to search deeper, like into a niche, they are finding garbage.
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This has absolutely been going on since September! My Google traffic is down 40%.

Also remember: while the first page is filled with tube results many, many smart surfers go immediately to page 2 or 3, knowing they are getting spammed with big players on the first page of Google results. Now that is gone and replaced with garbage.

Also, I suspect that the tubes getting the majority of SE traffic now are also seeing strange effects. Sure, traffic may be UP for them but I bet bounce rate has gone up too. Time on site down for the tubes. Views seem to be down on most videos on most homepages I check. Surfers will go to "the big boys" only so often and when they want to search deeper, like into a niche, they are finding garbage.
correct - in september was the highest decrease but in the meantime surfers start to learn how to define the searches and it is getting better.

the problem was already existing for years but much slower and did not effect as much as the september update.

effected are all so called "unsharp searches" what mean searches what can be also meant non-pornographic. phrases like "lesbian" and even "porn" are not delivering porn results in many countries while "porn videos" (not unsharp) are still packed with porn.

away from that google is using the real user behavior more and more.
wrong links (what means links that are followed but finally not lead to usage) are influencing a lot. if a site have many of such links it may happen that the whole domain
is going to hell.

also site with unclear structure are strongly effected because google canīt find reliable results in them. in fact is onpage optimizing MUCH more relevant.

and last not least google switched back to relevance in domainname and URL.
in the past years it was possible to push a site with the name abcxyz on a good position with any key. if you look deeper in the search results now you will find out that most of the results are represented in the domain name or at least in the URI. in the last mentioned only when there is a clean data structure.

but even when someone have that complete clean and correct it will take a while until surfers getting used to define CLEARER what they want.
I still remember a time when there where 50% porn results on the phrase "grandmother"
- the same "problem" we have now because Google needs to prove that they will NOT deliver porn to people who did not expressly asked for it.
to use the searchkey "porn" does not automatically mean that a user is searching for porn content. It can also be a kid what likes to find an explanation for the word.
if google would not react on this arguments it would be just a question of time til they are forced to ban all pornstuff from the listings.
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Still, the problem that I have, like I said before, is that many adult keys show fine on first page (all big tubes being there) but next pages show a load of crap.

That's a lot of traffic being stolen. If surfers see that page 2, page 3 etc are a waste of time, why bother then, just take results from first page.

There are also many searches showing Google Books and other crap on first page. That definitely must hurt traffic.

I also see shit happening in mainstream too. It became much harder to find relevant information than a year ago to say. With all the algo changes in Google but I don't feel it became better.
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I also see shit happening in mainstream too. It became much harder to find relevant information than a year ago to say. With all the algo changes in Google but I don't feel it became better.
this is a subjective observation.
google knows if a clicked result will be used from the surfer and if this usage is lower than others they will prefer the used ones in the first positions.

i am pretty sure you find a lot of answers in analytics.
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You asking same question as in your previous thread, dont think anything changed in the meantime nor it will be changed.
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Where is the filtering of adult sites?
google and only a few tubes))
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I've seen a few large sites have their Google traffic halved over the past 8 months.
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gentlemen. make your SEO as if they were non-adult sites! focus on long-tile keywords. read seo blogs and analysis. treat your cam / tube site the same way as a hotel page or a organic bread or whatever.

if you see non-adult sites on adult keywords then it should give you something to think about . I do not have problem with google traffic. apart fucking scam sites.
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I've seen a few large sites have their Google traffic halved over the past 8 months.
Judging from the number of video views on some major tubes this would appear to be the case.

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gentlemen. make your SEO as if they were non-adult sites! focus on long-tile keywords. read seo blogs and analysis. treat your cam / tube site the same way as a hotel page or a organic bread or whatever.

if you see non-adult sites on adult keywords then it should give you something to think about . I do not have problem with google traffic. apart fucking scam sites.
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I've seen a few large sites have their Google traffic halved over the past 8 months.
have you ever heard about the "Gaussian equal distribution" ?

imagine the gaussian equal distribution in the form of a half-full bath tub, which is raised on one side.
the water level will rise on the non-raised side, leaving the total amount of water the same.

means: if someone lost this traffic it have to be somewhere else.

it is hard to believe that people who are searching for porn content are satisfied with a wikipedia explanation of the word "porn".
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google is ending

so much irrelevant search results

not only in adult
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google is ending

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not only in adult
iīve heard that already 15 years ago - in the meantime google became one of the biggest companies in the world.

wish and reality are mostly opponent characters.
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Well, imagine if Amazon makes own search engine. That must hurt Google. Also remember, Google did special deals with Apple, Firefox etc for their search engine to be default on phones etc.

That means they aren't so sure people would just go to Google anyhow.
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google is ending

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not only in adult
that's how the google ends.
Here we have a graph of how google is over.
the blue color is the end of google.
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Well, imagine if Amazon makes own search engine. That must hurt Google. Also remember, Google did special deals with Apple, Firefox etc for their search engine to be default on phones etc.

That means they aren't so sure people would just go to Google anyhow.
and you think amazone has more power for that as microsoft who have an own OS on 90% of all computers in the world?

and WHY a fuck an amazone search engine should be used?
a COMPANY what is interessted to sell thier goods to the people shall be the owner of a search engine???

hmm... maybe you should present your idea to mc donaldīs or the church of scientology.
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Well, imagine another present where dominant in market was Windows mobile and not Android. Do you think everyone would scream because default search engine was Bing and not Google?

Think about it. It doesn't take much even for a tech giant to crumble at some point. Times change fast.
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Well, imagine another present where dominant in market was Windows mobile and not Android.
thatīs just another example how smart google is.

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Do you think everyone would scream because default search engine was Bing and not Google?
the default search engine in EVERY windows computer IS bing.

still does not work!

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Think about it. It doesn't take much even for a tech giant to crumble at some point. Times change fast.
you know the ONLY thing i am sure about is that Google have the money and the stuff to make the best research what you can buy for money. if they do something THOUSANDS of very very expensive specialists had looked in every corner.

IF your idea would be that great they would have bought you already.

btw: I can always find what i am looking for by using Google.

when you are driving a car YOU have to learn HOW to do that and NOT the car.

there is no argument against success - because success does not fall from the sky - it is a result of KNOWING the market.

there are MILLIONS of search engines out there and ALL of them think they are better.
but non of them even reached a fraction from Googles success.

Magic ? Or do people get paid to use Google ?

No ! Google just follows a VERY simple logic: Make it easy, fast and never change a winning system - thatīs all.
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Search engine traffic has been increasing for us.
Alexa reports it as 25% of our traffic (a conservative estimate).

Last May there was a significant drop, but it didn't seem to affect important keywords and thankfully did not hurt signups at all.

Google is constantly changing things around and one of the things that does seem to remain constant is for top tube sites to remain high on the first page. Hate 'em or love 'em, it would make sense to have content partner accounts and regularly upload clips with good titles so users who land on those tube pages from search engines will see your clips with your link codes first. It's obviously not as good as going direct from search engine to your site, but it's better than nothing.

Edit: also Google loves social. Make a Twitter at the very least and keep it updated and don't half-ass it! You may start seeing them rank your tweets rather high.
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Maybe this will push marketers to use relationship marketing instead. Might as well since RM has a much higher ROI and Return on Effort.
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Maybe this will push marketers to use relationship marketing instead. Might as well since RM has a much higher ROI and Return on Effort.
and from where comes the traffic of the relations ?

the one who comes out from the last door HAD to be gone through the first door.
if you have nothing you can only exchange it with nothing.

google is the biggest traffic source in the world.
you can ignore it and open your own little circle - but you will end up with inbreeding traffic because "the market" means ALL BUDGETS from ALL buyers.
if you limit the number of buyers you limit the number of budgets.
with the same argument you could try to open an own private internet.
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thatīs just another example how smart google is.
the default search engine in EVERY windows computer IS bing.
still does not work!
And what if the user who use bing earch egnine is more "simple"?
more simple it means it's easier to get a credit card to a hand?

let's think a little differently.
If he uses a standard search engine in the system.
If it's bing.
Probably uses a standard browser.
he probably does not use "adblocker".

does not know new apps, sites . etc.
Is such a user not ready to pay for access to adult content? faster and often.?
why not?
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And what if the user who use bing earch egnine is more "simple"?
more simple it means it's easier to get a credit card to a hand?

let's think a little differently.
If he uses a standard search engine in the system.
If it's bing.
Probably uses a standard browser.
he probably does not use "adblocker".

does not know new apps, sites . etc.
Is such a user not ready to pay for access to adult content? faster and often.?
why not?
true - the users from bing ARE like that.
but that means they are

a. dumber = less income
b. fewer = much smaller market

believe me i would appreciate bing would be more important - i have MANY number 1
keys there.

but that is my WISH and not the reality.
it does not make sense to try changing the reality into my wish world.

it is much easier to watch in wich direction the river streams and build wishes on the reality.

i think we can not even count the number of tries in the past decade to kick google.
but their concept is too smart.

I remember how we laughed when they started. no one know how they can even survive but every step they made after adwords was logic. they simply analized and grow so broad without losing the view on the center of their construction.

google is for me one of the best marketing masterpieces in human history.

I can not see any competitor who can change that at present.
and i will not wait til this competitor might appear (or not appear) one day in a far future.
I better live with an "enemy" what i do understand (because i can assume the next steps) as to ask for a new one what will bring me new problems.
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Here are Google's results for first page on respective keyword search.

https://imgur.com/a/uA8rR

As you can see, third result is a scraper website. Not to mention other results on page which seem very dubious, xvideos twice with almost same title?? And these results I check them for a while and are still same.

Btw, I've just looked for something mainstream related, some printer software. The 3d result was non working site. Out of 10 results, only 2 results were actually useful, rest were junk. When is Google's AI figuring it out this shit? 2030?

Imagine how much quality traffic is missed because of Google's playing.
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Google is screwing porn sites. If you search for porn you should get fucking porn. Not some dumb news article, google books, or vice. It's a joke. Compare their results to Bing. Bing shows you the porn results you would expect to get. Bing's results are far superior to google when it comes to searching for porn. I feel like google's end game is to kill porn completely at some point. I hope it fucks them and people move to bing or a real competitor comes and takes a piece out of their ass.
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Here are Google's results for first page on respective keyword search.

https://imgur.com/a/uA8rR

As you can see, third result is a scraper website. Not to mention other results on page which seem very dubious, xvideos twice with almost same title?? And these results I check them for a while and are still same.

Btw, I've just looked for something mainstream related, some printer software. The 3d result was non working site. Out of 10 results, only 2 results were actually useful, rest were junk. When is Google's AI figuring it out this shit? 2030?

Imagine how much quality traffic is missed because of Google's playing.
i canīt see anything wrong with this result in regards to your search.

the results a logic and when the 3rd one is a scammer HOW can google know that?

also the the 2 results from xvideos are logic because these are 2 different urls with different content - seems to be 2 results from a serie called "DJ sexo porn" where
DJ sexo tube night show 06 and DJ sexo tube night show 10 is listet.

if you do not understand google you can not complain google for it.
and if your side is not there it just means that you did not understand google or the real SEO factors.

in my network we are getting every day aproximately 2 million uniques directly from google and except some sites with some mistakes in onpage SEO and data structure
not one domain lost traffic. after fixing this problems all are back and the networks is actually around 2,2 million uniques per day ONLY FROM GOOGLE.
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Here are Google's results for first page on respective keyword search.

https://imgur.com/a/uA8rR

As you can see, third result is a scraper website. Not to mention other results on page which seem very dubious, xvideos twice with almost same title?? And these results I check them for a while and are still same.

Btw, I've just looked for something mainstream related, some printer software. The 3d result was non working site. Out of 10 results, only 2 results were actually useful, rest were junk. When is Google's AI figuring it out this shit? 2030?

Imagine how much quality traffic is missed because of Google's playing.
Things are much more complicated but still pretty logical after you get into them. They can look random at some point but there is probably an explanation for it. To make it short, I've checked for sexo tube keyword. It has a low competition index and that means no enough quality results for that keyword. This is probably why you are seeing that site ranked high. Just give something more valuable to Google (onsite SEO) and obtain a few links and you will be there on the first page easily.(considering that you already have an established domain)

I believe that a starting point is wrong and that KW is not a good one (money making kw). It is a waste of time to target keyword having "only" 2900 searches per month on google.com (170 on google.co.uk).

Every case should be examined separately if you are seriously working on targeting a keyword. I've just run some more checks on your example keyword sexo tube to see top 10 competition and make a conclusion.

Sites currently ranked from #2 up to#6 don't have SEO techniques applied at all. Their onsite SEO score is total crap, averaging somewhere at 26 or so. The top-ranked ohsextube.com has on page optimization rate at 86.2 plus a good link profile. It is interesting, domain sexotube.com that has a perfect domain name actually has the lowest onsite optimization rate compared to the rest of the top 10 ranked sites at this point (USA google).

As usually, xvideos and xnxx have a good SEO score and they are working on probably every tube word combination out there.

Conclusion: if this keyword is not a part of some bigger plan, I believe it is a waste of time to compete for it. Still, with a site that is is not "just launched a few days ago", with a little work, it should be ranked on the first page.

I don't know if some of the sites ranked your site and was this just a random example.
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So I guess if xvideos makes same title with 01..02...10 with just a number changed, they should rank with all 10 I suppose. Btw, those videos are complete shit, it's a wonder how well users interact with those crap videos.

For the example I showed you, I am first, so that's not the problem. Problem is what comes after me. There are tons of scraper sites currently ranking very high.

Have you checked page 2? These are some results that I get:

https://imgur.com/a/xpDrD

exosexo - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8v...0zhcalKMIQITTg
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sexo animal - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tC9y5sKhGY

GOD CREATED SEX, AND HE SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4laFtZ-e-M

Crea tu proyecto Tube - Google Books Result
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=8483565498

I suppose Google knows best

So this is not about my personal war with Google, this is about delivering decent results and it's doing a terrible job for quite a while now and as someone pointed above, Bing offers much better results. True, not great, but still better compared to Google, at least in some searches I tested.

The fact that you are getting traffic doesn't mean that others are not affected. I get Google traffic too and I had even more. I have no problem to see better sites than mine ranking over me, but it's not so, I see complete junk over and over again and not just me.

In the past, when I was seeing such junk results, it was due to some algo being prepared to filter those. It was always so. Now, either they love these results or they are preparing a big update to come.
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