Bladewire

Drip... Drip... Drip...

They steal identities and pose as Americans online. Imagine that.

"An announcement from special counsel Robert Mueller's office said that the government accuses all the defendants of conspiracy to defraud the United States. Three defendants are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud. Five defendants are charged with aggravated identity theft."

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Bladewire

So they argue on both sides of an argument to sew discourse and further divide Americans

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RedFred

Mineistaken is a Russian bot.

Bladewire

^^^ Truth

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tony286

Since they arent here yet , I will fill in.

Hilary Hilary Hilary, fake news, fake news, fake news.

Matt-ADX

Okay, we all knew this Facebook told us that already. So what does this have to do with Trump? You really think the social media meddling was why Trump won? serious question

OneHungLo

Nobody cares.

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Bladewire

Anyone on here defending the Russians is a peice of shit. GFY : the breeding ground of fake nics / bots. #ThanksAVN

MaDalton

there are plenty people that still claim this is untrue

this also became an obvious pattern recently: deny, deny, deny - then say nothing for a while when proof is undeniable - and then claim that it was common knowledge all the time

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Bladewire

Another pattern:

deny, deny, deny - then say nothing for a while when proof is undeniable - then say it never mattered anyway.

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You're an idiot. Mueller has spent what, a year to uncover how some Russians make money online?

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Matt-ADX

I really just don't think this is the first and only time they have done these things. I feel like every country does this type of shit no? I also don't think they are the reason Trump won. I do think they are doing a good job of ramping up the divide in the US and having Trump in the big boy seat basically helped pour fuel on the fire and make it easier for them.

Matt-ADX

Also the MSM is helping Russia so much.

Bladewire

Some things a Russian would say

pornguy

Give that man a star for the day on his forehead

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Do you not think that the US does the same to Russia? Iran? Of course they do and why wouldn't they. Hillary helped fuel the Putin unrest when she was Sec of State which is why Putin has such a grudge against her. I am not blaming Hillary or any of that nonsense so don't jump on that wagon Bladewire.

The MSM talking non stop Russia Russia Russia is like them talking about school shooters and stuff. It just keeps fueling hate, rips the divide more and more open. You can see it here, every day its more Team Blue vs Team Red. No one talking about anything substantial that can move us further ahead, just pushing their own agendas..

Bladewire

You're saying everything a Russian would say damn

Putin doesn't like the media either

Matt-ADX

What the hell is Russian about any of that? I am not defending Russia at all. Why wouldn't governments try to influence countries. It just makes sense, I want someone who is better for me in office. Hasn't that been going on for thousands of years?

Bladewire

You are defending Russia.

You are also trying to minimalize what Russia did.

It's like after someone's husband gets murdered you would go up to them and say people get murdered every day it's no big deal. Thats not normal. What you are saying at this moment in time is not normal. Fucking idiot Russian defender

Bladewire

Don't forget, another tactic, aside from defending & deflecting, is minimizing.

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Acepimp

BladeLiar doesn't speak logic or common sense. he believes everything Adam Schiff, Pelosi & Mad Maxine say. These scum bag politicians from California lie so much to cover their own crimes it's unreal, then people like BladeLiar believe their narrative = he believes the opposite of reality

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Bladewire

^^^ Fake nic

He'll come in under another alt-righ nic momentarily

Matt-ADX

I am not defending them. I am saying I am not shocked they do this, I figure everyone does.

It's more like Someone's husband goes around killing people for years and years and then finally someone kills them and they cry how it's not fair.

Rochard

But the emails!

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Bladewire

Yes , you minimize in defense of Russia. You don't like the media either. You don't like the FBI either. The FBI & media are the buffers American society has between us and a dictatorship.

Rochard

They are doing this right now with the gun control issue. Both sides. They are just fucking with us.

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Bladewire

Russia has funded the NRA.

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>13 Russians

2MuchMark

So is Acepimp. At least, I hope he is.


It helped.

Correction: You don't care.


Change the subject! Pivot! Deflect! You're as predicable as a sunrise. Ace.

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MaDalton

I have said it here before: Hillary was not a good candidate but per se at least qualified

but what would you say: did stories about pizza connection and killed FBI agents help her?

Or maybe not?

Because even when the originators of those stories meanwhile posted that they made them up, people on this very board still repeat them as if they were true.

And if you take one step back and look at the bigger picture: How comfortable are you with the knowledge (since it is knowledge now as you wrote) that other countries are deliberately trying to influence your politics by using American companies to spread false information for their political gain?

(ironically something the US did in other countries for the last 70 years or so)

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Bladewire

Thats why I have the fakes blocked. There's no back and forth discussion just propaganda shoved down your throat, no "meeting of the minds" on anything, that's not how normal American/Canadian discourse/discussion/debate goes.

Then you have the nics that try to minimize what's being done is normal or no big deal or done by us before so we deserve it.

Matt-ADX

Where did I say I don't like the media. I like the media very much. I don't like Fox, CNN, NBC because everyone is pushing an agenda. I watch CNN 8 hours a day (we have it playing in the office) So I see every presser, everything said from officials live and when it happens. I then get the pleasure of watching them twist the words in a way to fit their narrative.

The media is huge and has to be respected but right now none of the big boys are being honest. Online media (not fake news like Infowars and the Huffpost) is only going to get bigger and bigger if MSM keeps going down the path they are headed.

Not one of you are talking about how the FBI is in a rough spot today. They have the President shitting on them every day. Which he is very wrong to do, people were already losing confidence in them and now after a massive shooting we find out that someone close to the killer called the FBI a month ago and warned them the kid was talking about killing people and they didn't follow up? This could be real ugly in a very scary way.

Bladewire

Putin is doing more than politics.

Putin and his bots, stolen identities & fake nics are trying to destroy the FBI & media, Americas buffer from being a dictatorship.

It's one thing to influence an election it's another thing to try to destroy democracy and turn it into a dictatorship

MaDalton

Iran, Cuba, Nicaragua,... do I need to go on?

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Bladewire

State your point. You're being vague.

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Rochard

I don't get this. I don't like her, but I never saw her do anything bad. Or even wrong. Benghazi was handled the only way it could have been handled, and had little to do with Hillary and the State Department. The email crap was pure bullshit; Lots of high ranking government employees had the same exact set up.

What did she ever do that was bad?

Trump has been one disaster after another. He has accomplished nothing other than corporate America getting a massive (MASSIVE) tax break. I didn't get one - I make $3 more every two months. EVERYTHING has been bad, and now we know he is banging everyone except for his wife.

How the fuck did this happen?

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crockett

The fact that theindictments say these Russians talked directly to people in the Trump campaign, says someone cares...


Drip,..drip..drip..

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OneHungLo

Bladewire, just admit you'd be sucking uncut Russian dick by the dumpster load if they helped out crooked Hillary...

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Rochard

Mueller just sent a very strong message to President Trump. He is saying this investigation is very detailed and far reaching. Mueller and the FBI is going to turn over every last rock.

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Matt-ADX

Of course it helped. Do you think that's what pushed it over the edge? I know a lot of people (you do as well I am sure) who wanted Bernie to win, when he lost and it came out that it was rigged against him every one of those people chose to not vote. On a scale of what tipped Trump over the top, I think the cheating within their own part is was really caused him to win. Not deflecting anything back and saying HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY, I think the Dems screwed themselves and like the Liberal part in Canada did after we sent them the message by voting for the NDP, they need to stop going down the path they are going. They need to re-tool and come back with good leadership and talk about the issues.

Winning over Roy Moore in Alabama is nice, but step back and look at it. Jones barely and it really was barely... Beat a credibly accused child molester. That's scary. They can't be taking those kind of chances, they have to suck it up and run some more moderate candidates in 2018 because current polls have the GOP coming back strong in some of these races. You can't hope to win with pro abortion candidates in Alabama on the regular. But nope seems like they want to keep losing

Bladewire

There are a lot of sexy Russians. Everyday Russians are a lot like everyday Americans pretty much exactly like us. I've worked with many Russians over the years, and I will continue to do so. When I say "Russians" I'm referencing Putin and his war on America and destroying democracy in Russia, not the everyday Russian people.

OneHungLo

Where? it states "Rosenstein said there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election."

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RedFred

Wonder how many govt watch lists you're on?

beerptrol

Like the way you are sucking theirs now? Keep deflecting.


So much for it being a hoax and witch hunt

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crockett

This group was posing as Americans and worked/talked directly with the Trump campaign to organize ad buys as well as set up rallies inside the US.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rod-ros...tream-updates/

According to the indictment, "Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities."

So they have no proof that Trump's people knew they were Russian but Trump's people were working directly with them....

Keep in mind, this is just one small part of the entire investigation, just like Manafort and the other guys were a separate part. More will come..

What this does is puts it on record that Russians were involved and they did work with the Trump campaign even if the Trump campaign was ignorant of it. This now make is next to impossible for Trump to shut down the investigation..

You can bet your ass this was released as a way to make it impossible for Trump to shut down the investigation and force traitor Republicans to end their non sense that it's all fake news..

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Matt-ADX

She took over the DNC paid the bills and screwed the people's candidate out of the chance to become president. Bernie vs Trump, I think we can all agree Sanders wins.