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Old 04-05-2018, 09:21 AM   #151
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since when do you think a user is interested on the text?
the text helps google a bit to identify the content around you clown.

at the end of the day the result depends on the users behaviour. and if this guy is able to satisfy them better as you can - you should blame yourself and not google.

donīt worry - i will not tell you what he is doing right and what he is doing wrong - because as an expert as you seems to be you will easily find it by yourself and go to top positions with a finger snap or with help from semrush (same all the other million semrush users who are sharing the first google position)

so WHY are you complaining ????
you MUST be already number one in all big keys.

or are you not ?
Your problem thommy is you think YOU know everything and everyone else knows nothing.

Selling traffic is one thing, and one way to view Google. But trying to sell an actual PRODUCT, or membership, via Google is an entirely different thing.

What do I mean? Free is free and paid is paid, so the traffic Google sends in mass numbers to free sites is NOT the same kind of traffic Google sends to smaller niche sites (like paysites).

These traffic brokers are math idiot savants (and some without the savant part) who reduces everything down to a mathematical equation. It's like with baseball and saber metrics. LOL But when your own eyes (and experience) tell you different ALWAYS go with that.
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:26 AM   #152
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Your problem thommy is you think YOU know everything and everyone else knows nothing.
This is what, in my language, we call "narcissism"
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since when do you think a user is interested on the text?
the text helps google a bit to identify the content around you clown.
Google, in all its complexity, is basically a text retrieval tool. Saying that text isn't important is pure retardation.

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donīt worry - i will not tell you what he is doing right and what he is doing wrong - because as an expert as you seems to be you will easily find it by yourself and go to top positions with a finger snap or with help from semrush (same all the other million semrush users who are sharing the first google position)
don't worry, I don't need your opinion

I do hope you managed to pull in some new sales on your site from acting out as smartass here.

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so WHY are you complaining ????
you MUST be already number one in all big keys.

or are you not ?
I'm not a guy that writes here about earned MILLIONS like you do, but I'm well off, thanks for asking.

Judging by your insights on the matter, those millions are probably in BAHT currency.
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Old 04-05-2018, 01:20 PM   #154
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Google, in all its complexity, is basically a text retrieval tool. Saying that text isn't important is pure retardation.

canīt you read what i wrote ???

i wrote A USER is not interessted in the txte Google is.
a user will not even read the text he will watch the video.


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don't worry, I don't need your opinion

thatīs good because i donīt see that you would understand it anyway.

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I do hope you managed to pull in some new sales on your site from acting out as smartass here.
hey, I am telling you how things are and not blow in your "google is bad and the devil trumpet".

if you donīt like people who are telling you the truth in such a sensitive way how your mother powdered your ass than you are not born for this biz.

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I'm not a guy that writes here about earned MILLIONS like you do, but I'm well off, thanks for asking.

i know that you arenīt and you will never because you think the planet have to spin around you and you know all.
but IF you would have the smallest clue you would not need to complain - you would UNDERSTAND what others are doing better as you do.

you call google editors "trained chimps" and i really doubt that you was reading a 150 pages document in such a short time.
if you would read and UNDESTAND it you would probably know what is going on and that is is just logic.

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Judging by your insights on the matter, those millions are probably in BAHT currency.
i really donīt give a shit if you or someone else makes money or not.
but i hate to hear so many people crying just because they do not understand the job they are doing and better blame whoever for the own incompetence.

i do this job for 21 year and i did also start as an idiot. but i used this 21 years to learn it.
thatīs why i do not have to cry.
but if you prefer to suffer - do it. but please do not try to force me to be quiet when you write here a a bunch of nonsense because i assume that there are still a few who want to hear other views and other options.
and I think they prefer to hear it from someone who can make money and not from a crying baby.
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Old 04-05-2018, 01:42 PM   #155
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Your problem thommy is you think YOU know everything and everyone else knows nothing.

Selling traffic is one thing, and one way to view Google. But trying to sell an actual PRODUCT, or membership, via Google is an entirely different thing.
helloooo sunnyboy - i was selling products and made money with it when you did not even know how to switch a computer on.

i did that probably longer than you and had with ONE SINGE memebrsite more members as you ever had with your whole network.

why do you clowns think i am stupid and donīt know this perspective ???

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What do I mean? Free is free and paid is paid, so the traffic Google sends in mass numbers to free sites is NOT the same kind of traffic Google sends to smaller niche sites (like paysites).
looooool - have you ever heard the word DUPLICATED CONTENT ???

what is the site google should rank ?
with WICH affiliate ID ????

and do you know WHY google send them to free sites?

1. because they SEARCH for it
2. they are much more popular.


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These traffic brokers are math idiot savants (and some without the savant part) who reduces everything down to a mathematical equation. It's like with baseball and saber metrics. LOL But when your own eyes (and experience) tell you different ALWAYS go with that.
math and empathy is the key of success. you guys miss the empathy (and most of the math too) because you see it from your own point of view and start to call names when someone is telling you your problems.

i donīt know who told you guys ever you are smart. 90% of the members of this forum are kids and not people who are able to afford good life with what they do.
there are people here making 20 or 30 k per year and this people want to tell me how this biz works ???

people who call themself SEO who can not even optimize their own sites ???

i really can not read this bullshit anymore. and i am tired to read all that cries from losers who are thinking that they only have to cry long and loud enough and mum will buy them a sweetie.

people who THINK SERIOUSLY they can find here the helpers to destroy google and everyone else who thinks more professional then them.

you guys kill my mood. i better enjoy my time in my world as to read so much bullshit.
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Old 04-05-2018, 01:47 PM   #156
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canīt you read what i wrote ???

i wrote A USER is not interessted in the txte Google is.
a user will not even read the text he will watch the video.
Last time I checked, google made serps, not users. Text being the main factor of it's creation.

Users will click on anything if it's served on top spots, regardless of it's quality.

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hey, I am telling you how things are and not blow in your "google is bad and the devil trumpet".
I never sad google is bad and the devil. However, I strongly believe it can improve a whole lot.

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if you donīt like people who are telling you the truth in such a sensitive way how your mother powdered your ass than you are not born for this biz.
Your ramblings are not the truth.

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you would UNDERSTAND what others are doing better as you do.
Don't know about ALL others but mzansi.porn is doing BLACK HAT seo. I don't want to go down that short term route. I'm 100% sure that on next google shake, that site will plummet down like fuck.

Why I'm even mentioning that site - because it defies logic that website can elude so many quality checks and filters and be served up so high. That is all I ever said


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you call google editors "trained chimps" and i really doubt that you was reading a 150 pages document in such a short time.
if you would read and UNDESTAND it you would probably know what is going on and that is is just logic.
Dude, you proclaimed they have a mega difficult job - NO, they do not. They follow a set of guidelines and apply checkboxes for each site they review.

I've read the reviewer info back when it was released, some months ago.

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i do this job for 21 year and i did also start as an idiot. but i used this 21 years to learn it.
21 years and some things never change.

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but if you prefer to suffer - do it. but please do not try to force me to be quiet when you write here a a bunch of nonsense because i assume that there are still a few who want to hear other views and other options.
and I think they prefer to hear it from someone who can make money and not from a crying baby.
No one is quieting you down. However, you are yet to say anything valid. All your "opinions" are based on speculations and nothing, literally nothing concrete.
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looooool - have you ever heard the word DUPLICATED CONTENT ???
You got a logic flaw there, oversimplifying the shit out of the issue.

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people who THINK SERIOUSLY they can find here the helpers to destroy google
Who the fuck is destroying google? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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helloooo sunnyboy - i was selling products and made money with it when you did not even know how to switch a computer on.

i did that probably longer than you and had with ONE SINGE memebrsite more members as you ever had with your whole network.

why do you clowns think i am stupid and donīt know this perspective ???



looooool - have you ever heard the word DUPLICATED CONTENT ???

what is the site google should rank ?
with WICH affiliate ID ????

and do you know WHY google send them to free sites?

1. because they SEARCH for it
2. they are much more popular.




math and empathy is the key of success. you guys miss the empathy (and most of the math too) because you see it from your own point of view and start to call names when someone is telling you your problems.

i donīt know who told you guys ever you are smart. 90% of the members of this forum are kids and not people who are able to afford good life with what they do.
there are people here making 20 or 30 k per year and this people want to tell me how this biz works ???

people who call themself SEO who can not even optimize their own sites ???

i really can not read this bullshit anymore. and i am tired to read all that cries from losers who are thinking that they only have to cry long and loud enough and mum will buy them a sweetie.

people who THINK SERIOUSLY they can find here the helpers to destroy google and everyone else who thinks more professional then them.

you guys kill my mood. i better enjoy my time in my world as to read so much bullshit.
You see, insecure people FREAK OUT (like you are doing here) because you know and fear, deep down, that your "wisdom" is based on bullshit. Kudos to you for figuring out a way to sell circle jerk traffic to bros at shows who do the same thing but this is NOT reality. Ask any old timer. The porn biz used to be filled with paysites, TGPs, blogs and legit webmasters selling porn. Now? Mostly billers, cam sites, dating programs and traffic sellers with a few key tubes thrown in.

Given that tiny pool of what "the porn biz" has become it's not surprising you (along with many others) would have a myopic view. You are all exploiting what few revenue sources are left in the world of free. I get it. But, like stock brokers who simply push paper around, you do not create anything. You simply take traffic from Source A and sell it to Source B. Wow, genius level stuff.

But do not worry. Google is a giant corporation, like the corporations that mostly buy your traffic, so in the end the few players you play with will win. Hopefully by then I will be retired on a beach somewhere.
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The algorithm is working absolutely wrong right now. One of my sites lost almost all visits from Google, but still doing well because its content is 100% unique. On the other hand, the first pages are occupied by tubes with low quality content. These are results that completely refute the theory of quality content and uniqueness. On the contrary-currently Google is too far away from that.

Someone wrote about Amazon. On several of my sites I notice visits based on the keyword Amazon, which is ridiculous.

This update is not anti porn it's just anti search. For example I searched for dental xray lab yesterday. The first 2 results were OK, but the third was for a hypermarket with a section of professional cameras. So Google isn't doing well even with normal, domestic searches right now

I also believe that a great corrective update is imminent very soon because the last one is completely questionable.
Yes, there is something very wrong with it lately. It's half crap, bad quality, often completely irrelevant. I still can find what I want with logic and "", but I imagine many average not very tech-aware people can't.
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For a couple of weeks until Easter I was suddenly getting ridiculous amounts of Google traffic for wordpress tags, while the actual homepages were ignored. The last week it's slowly been going down, and yesterday there was a sudden big drop

BTW, do you think Google has different algorithms for adult? I mean actual 'quality' criteria algorithms and not just in trying to prevent adult results coming up in non-adult searches (which it appears to be doing heavy handedly these days).
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BTW, do you think Google has different algorithms for adult?
One of the googlers was asked that and he claimed that all sites get treated the same, adult and mainstream. Now, should we trust him..... that is a whole different story.

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I mean actual 'quality' criteria algorithms and not just in trying to prevent adult results coming up in non-adult searches (which it appears to be doing heavy handedly these days).
This is the true question really. If you were checking adult serps a month ago and further in the past, you probably noticed that there are barely any adult results. Whatever adult query resulted in maybe first page of porn results and the rest were heavily diluted with google books, mainstream news and such.

That would mean that google actually does a good job in classifying adult site as adult site and ALL adult ones had a penalty of some sort, just to reduce it's rank in order for mainstream results to rise in (coz, mainstream makes them money).

NOW, situation is different and adult serps are indeed adult, 90% porn across all pages.
That switch was sudden and could also be the reason why current adult related results are a big awkward
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Your problem thommy is you think YOU know everything and everyone else knows nothing.
C'mon, you can all stop with your kosher krap.

Google is Jewish. It believes that the Palestinians should be ethnically cleansed, and that the goyim should be subjugated. Your "arguments" are clearly for public entertainment only, because you're all on the same team and Google surely knows it.
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Bump...... some sites are doing better, some worse on my end. Revenue about the same.

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After getting 2x traffic spikes from google over March, my 100% english, responsive, functional website is so far down that I'm getting 2x more baidu traffic than google

I can't go further down unless they kill me for "site name" searches as well

I still see a shitload of unknown and new sites all over popular results and according to semrush and such, those sites spiked insanely, from 300 to 1300% traffic rising in March.

So anyway, I'm still hoping for a correction update that will solve this mess
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My traffic went up about 20% and is now back to where it was. Seems a large update was implemented then slowly tweaked or rolled back.
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If you wonder why most (not all) API sites do not rank well, the reason is that Google consider them as "copied content" ;)
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If you wonder why most (not all) API sites do not rank well, the reason is that Google consider them as "copied content" ;)
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ent-25550.html
Bah. A lot of sites can rank well using APIs.... even those whitelabel cam sites... you just need to be smart enough... last week I saw on semrush a 60k traffic whitelabel site on google
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Bah. A lot of sites can rank well using APIs.... even those whitelabel cam sites... you just need to be smart enough... last week I saw on semrush a 60k traffic whitelabel site on google
I said most, NOT all.
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Serpometer is very high today.

I took a big loss.

What about you?
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Yes, something is happening again
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Anyone seeing serps full of all kinds of shits?

I'm looking at popular queries:
sex videos
porn videos

Stuff like that. I'm currently even seeing big ones (pornhub, xhamster) gone in favor of some brand new (mostly shitty) tubes that popped up.
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Are you kidding me ?
Yep, I noticed that domain too

I'm only waiting on this Thommy smartass to come in and say that sexindia.xxx is way better than 99% of other sites
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Yep, I noticed that domain too

I'm only waiting on this Thommy smartass to come in and say that sexindia.xxx is way better than 99% of other sites
Dude thommy probably owns sexindia.xxx

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I see an increase from the latest update but I have a feeling it won't last long.
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I'm only waiting on this Thommy smartass to come in and say that sexindia.xxx is way better than 99% of other sites
from search engine view he is doing a few things much better than others.
but donīt worry - I will not be smartass and tell you WHAT it is.

maybe you feel better living in the thought that google is a conspiracy against your sites :-)
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Old 04-19-2018, 01:03 AM   #179
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maybe you feel better living in the thought that google is a conspiracy against your sites :-)
Never said it's a conspiracy. Hell, I'm not even worried about all this.

I just see it's some AI algo shit in its early stages ;)
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saw another big boost the last 2 days
same pattern on the majority of the sites in this network

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I think what they're doing right now is removing the notorious March update. Given the deplorable results, it was expected.
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I think what they're doing right now is removing the notorious March update. Given the deplorable results, it was expected.
Nah, nothing is being removed. This is probably some brand new algorithm that is in it's early stages of implementation.

sexindia.xxx and mzansi.porn are still riding strong

also.. seems like xhamster got moved down on a lot of popular queries
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Yeah there was a confirmed Google update this Monday https://searchengineland.com/google-...er-week-296600
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hey guys, any news ?
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he's still on the first page, I think this "update" is not yet finished
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he's still on the first page, I think this "update" is not yet finished
For the beginning, that guy has almost perfect page optimization for a keyword sex videos (if that is a keyword you are looking at). If someone tells him to add an h2 tag that he missed as one of the most important SEO elements, expect to see him even higher. Anyway, he will go down eventually because of very low DA. Need to mention that I didn't check other top 9 competitors and their work to be sure because I would never waste time fighting for so competitive keyword.
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For the beginning, that guy has almost perfect page optimization for a keyword sex videos (if that is a keyword you are looking at). If someone tells him to add an h2 tag that he missed as one of the most important SEO elements, expect to see him even higher. Anyway, he will go down eventually because of very low DA. Need to mention that I didn't check other top 9 competitors and their work to be sure because I would never waste time fighting for so competitive keyword.
thatīs what i said. this guy is doing a lot of correct onpage SEO.
he is not perfect but he can be that high because most competitors are not better or worse.
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thatīs what i said. this guy is doing a lot of correct onpage SEO.
he is not perfect but he can be that high because most competitors are not better or worse.
Agree. I've noticed what you said after I've posted. This thread is a classic example of people not understanding and having knowledge of the subject and as always, the next step is blaming Search engines. They are actually very precise (in most of the cases) and just following own recommendations. Indian guy has the knowledge and he put effort and got the results. What he couldn't do fast is getting links but he is probably working on that while people are complaining.
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Agree. I've noticed what you said after I've posted. This thread is a classic example of people not understanding and having knowledge of the subject and as always, the next step is blaming Search engines. They are actually very precise (in most of the cases) and just following own recommendations. Indian guy has the knowledge and he put effort and got the results. What he couldn't do fast is getting links but he is probably working on that while people are complaining.
there is nothing to add on that.
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I agree about SEO. But does not deserve higher ranking than hasmter, phub etc
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Look exactly like one of my site Like WTF happened on March 15



But few other of our sites getting a little spike 20% + or so of SE traffic and thats great.
Recovery in Progress. Google is not mad at my site anymore i guess! Took 6 month to recover from that update
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