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Old 07-11-2018, 07:47 AM   #51
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When we discuss McCain doing something, we should use quotes. He isn't all there. Can you believe he ran in 2008?

You think Flake will vote with him?
he should have dialed it back decades ago when he became the first person in the history of the world to destroy his own aircraft carrier.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:46 AM   #52
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Any American who's afraid of a supreme court that closely adheres to the constitution should probably rethink his American citizenship.

The idiot left has lost. The pendulum will now swing back, as it always does.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:18 AM   #53
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Any American who's afraid of a supreme court that closely adheres to the constitution should probably rethink his American citizenship.

The idiot left has lost. The pendulum will now swing back, as it always does.
Until the pendulum hits you square in the ass, then you snowflakes cry!
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:49 AM   #54
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Until the pendulum hits you square in the ass, then you snowflakes cry!
oh dear bottom, did that sound intelligent when you tried it out on your cat?
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:50 AM   #55
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Any American who's afraid of a supreme court that closely adheres to the constitution should probably rethink his American citizenship.

The idiot left has lost. The pendulum will now swing back, as it always does.
The constitution doesn't define a business as a person, but the "conservative" SCOTUS did.

The constitution doesn't say you can funnel unlimited money into American elections from all around the world anonymously, but the "conservative" SCOTUS did.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:53 AM   #56
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The constitution doesn't define a business as a person, but the "conservative" SCOTUS did.

The constitution doesn't say you can funnel unlimited money into elections anonymously, but the "conservative" SCOTUS did.
You really don't want to go down that rabbit hole.
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The constitution doesn't say you can have an abortion, but the "conservative" SCOTUS did.
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The constitution doesn't define a business as a person, but the "conservative" SCOTUS did.

The constitution doesn't say you can funnel unlimited money into American elections from all around the world anonymously, but the "conservative" SCOTUS did.
incorrect on both counts.

your first point is nothing more than liberal drivel. a corporation was ALWAYS considered a legal person.

cor·po·ra·tion
ˌkôrpəˈrāSH(ə)n/Submit
noun
a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.
synonyms: company, firm, business, concern, operation, house, organization, agency, trust, partnership; More
a group of people elected to govern a city, town, or borough.
noun: municipal corporation; plural noun: municipal corporations

your second point is nonsensical fiction.
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incorrect on both counts.

your first point is nothing more than liberal drivel. a corporation was ALWAYS considered a legal person.

cor·po·ra·tion
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a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.
synonyms: company, firm, business, concern, operation, house, organization, agency, trust, partnership; More
a group of people elected to govern a city, town, or borough.
noun: municipal corporation; plural noun: municipal corporations

your second point is nonsensical fiction.
Seriously?

That's all you got? No links to back up what you say? Why not? Because your opinion is not fact, and you know it. Nice try though stud

The U.S. constitution was created in 1797.

No corporations existed in America in 1797.
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Seriously?

That's all you got? No links to back up what you say? Why not? Because your opinion is not fact, and you know it. Nice try though stud
google "what is a corporation?"

I thought I'd save you the embarrassment of treating you like a 5yr old but if you need the hand holding, here you go.
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and if you're really being obtuse, google " supreme court rules you can funnel unlimited money into American elections from all around the world anonymously" get back to us with the links backing up that nonsense. we'll all still be here waiting.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:17 PM   #62
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google "what is a corporation?"

I thought I'd save you the embarrassment of treating you like a 5yr old but if you need the hand holding, here you go.
The U.S. constitution was created in 1797.

No American corporations existed in America in 1797.

I have multiple registered corps., for decades now. I'm good on knowing what a corporation is thanks

We're talking about corporation personhood & the Constitution and you're diverting off topic. Weak! . I don't blame you it is a boring topic.
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:58 PM   #64
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The U.S. constitution was created in 1797.

No American corporations existed in America in 1797.

I have multiple registered corps., for decades now. I'm good on knowing what a corporation is thanks

We're talking about corporation personhood & the Constitution and you're diverting off topic. Weak! . I don't blame you it is a boring topic.
They did, they began in the 1780s and 1790s. Some people quote the first important one as Boston Manufacturing Company, founded in 1813 but there were numerous companies founded in the US with shares and corporate structures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverl...on_Manufactory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_Brewery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston...turing_Company
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Old 07-11-2018, 05:11 PM   #65
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They did, they began in the 1780s and 1790s. Some people quote the first important one as Boston Manufacturing Company, founded in 1813 but there were numerous companies founded in the US with shares and corporate structures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverl...on_Manufactory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_Brewery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston...turing_Company
Your links are all companies founded in the 1800's, not 1780s and 1790s, but for the first link founded in 1789 in Massachusetts and is the first example of corporate charity feeding off the government, as it failed they gave tax breaks to the companies and the state loaned them money and they eventually went out of business. Good find though! Well done, you found one
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Your links are all companies founded in the 1800's, not 1780s and 1790s, but for the first link founded in 1789 in Massachusetts and is the first example of corporate charity feeding off the government, as it failed they gave tax breaks to the companies and the state loaned them money and they eventually went out of business. Good find though! Well done, you found one

"The brewery, which for a while was known as The Baltimore Strong Beer Brewery, was founded in 1783 by Thomas Peters"

The brewery was too, read the 2nd paragraph, don't just skim. Both the examples I provided (I haven't got the time to post all day - you must tell me how you do it) were founded in the 1790s or earlier.

The manufacturing firm I listed was the first "large scale" company, and I provided it for your edification.
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"The brewery, which for a while was known as The Baltimore Strong Beer Brewery, was founded in 1783 by Thomas Peters"

The brewery was too, read the 2nd paragraph, don't just skim. Both the examples I provided (I haven't got the time to post all day - you must tell me how you do it) were founded in the 1790s or earlier.

The manufacturing firm I listed was the first "large scale" company, and I provided it for your edification.
Good find. I saw 1813 when I clicked the link and stopped reading

BTW, how did you find those companies? What was your search term?

I searched with variations of "the first company created in America" "Americas first corporation" with other variations, and found nothing.
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The U.S. constitution was created in 1797.

No American corporations existed in America in 1797.

I have multiple registered corps., for decades now. I'm good on knowing what a corporation is thanks

We're talking about corporation personhood & the Constitution and you're diverting off topic. Weak! . I don't blame you it is a boring topic.
oh dear boy, I suggest you google "history of corporations"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ba...ew_York_Mellon
"""The first bank in the U.S. was the Bank of North America in Philadelphia, which was chartered by the Continental Congress in 1781; Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were among its founding shareholders."""
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I wonder if the US Supreme Court had NOT RULED that Corporations are 'persons' under the Constitution, what would have been the effect on business....
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