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Old 07-13-2018, 08:01 AM   #1
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Peter Strzok Killed it yesterday

Congratulations Peter Strzok!!!

You handed the ridiculous GOPers their asses yesterday. Bravo good sir, Brav-o.
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Yes he did. The GOP were asking him questions they knew he couldn't answer and threatening contempt. FBI told them before hand what they could not ask him due to the active investigation

While letting Bannon and other Trump stooges get away with not answering questions due to some made up reason they came up with for not answering


I believe and trust Peter Strzok would do what's good for the country, where as I wouldn't trust any of those GOPers or Chump
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The GOP showed what traitors they are yesterday.

11 hours of grilling an FBI agent over private texts because he thinks Trump's an idiot. Nit over any of his actions, just what he thought of Trump being an idiot bitch. They're such cucks. Trying to make a big deal out 9f nothing, as usual, to convince their base of their lies.
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Honestly this shit makes me want to be an independent. Now you are kissing the ass of an obviously corrupt FBI agent? He would jail your ass in a minute!

You do know you can be against a president's policies and still not do everything your party says, right? Get some goddamn principles.
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The GOP showed what traitors they are yesterday.

11 hours of grilling an FBI agent over private texts because he thinks Trump's an idiot. They're such cucks. Trying to make a big deal out 9f nothing, as usual, to convince their base of their lies.
What an unbelievable waste of time and money, When the GOP could be pursuing more important matters instead of trying to undermine Mueller's investigation
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Honestly this shit makes me want to be an independent. Now you are kissing the ass of an obviously corrupt FBI agent? He would jail your ass in a minute!

You do know you can be against a president's policies and still not do everything your party says, right? Get some goddamn principles.
I'd be interested in reading anything available showing he's obviously corrupt. Senator Johnson walked back his claiming such.

I've googled and didn't come up with anything substantial.
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Honestly this shit makes me want to be an independent. Now you are kissing the ass of an obviously corrupt FBI agent? He would jail your ass in a minute!

You do know you can be against a president's policies and still not do everything your party says, right? Get some goddamn principles.
I am with you 100%. The stupid Democrats will defend ANY action as long as it is against Trump. Then the hypocrite Liberals turn around and have the brass balls of calling us republicans gullible idiots for standing behind Trump.

What I find humorous is the Dems haven't won a single influential political seat. This thread based on a corrupt Federal Agent which is basically all the Dems can somewhat can talk about. Whether Strzok feels his actions were right or not, he should have never texted that message.
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I am with you 100%. The stupid Democrats will defend ANY action as long as it is against Trump. Then the hypocrite Liberals turn around and have the brass balls of calling us republicans gullible idiots for standing behind Trump.

What I find humorous is the Dems haven't won a single influential political seat. This thread based on a corrupt Federal Agent which is basically all the Dems can somewhat can talk about. Whether Strzok feels his actions were right or not, he should have never texted that message.
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I watched the entire thing. It was thoroughly entertaining, it was a farce from both sides. GOP obv wanted to demonize him and Dem's praised him as a patriot. Nothing was gained from this whole thing except soundbites that they could bring back to their constituents. Of course CNN and MSNBC used it so people like Mark would think he is a hero and did nothing wrong.

The IG report said

“We were deeply troubled by text messages sent by Strzok and Page that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations,”

This sentence was the crux of the entire 11 hour farce. He says it gave the appearance and that he bias but he didn't, that having a point of view and bias are two different things. While he is right, you certainly would have to be a very strong individual with impeccable morals and character to not let your point of view leak into becoming bias.

Though there is no proof at this point that he did act against Trump, he certainly is of questionable character, that's the main point the GOP was trying to make.
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I'd be interested in reading anything available showing he's obviously corrupt. Senator Johnson walked back his claiming such.

I've googled and didn't come up with anything substantial.
I am glad to see that the board is starting to become normal. Your comments above are not just sticking to party line. i also am trying to look at the issue versus what is anti-Trump. Still not a fan but the idea of debate is to be open to exploring the issue versus fight ting for our tribe.
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I am glad to see that the board is starting to become normal. Your comments above are not just sticking to party line. i also am trying to look at the issue versus what is anti-Trump. Still not a fan but the idea of debate is to be open to exploring the issue versus fight ting for our tribe.

baloney.

You're the guy who's been drive-by insulting me over the last couple of days based on your assuming my "narrative" while calling me "delusional" for pointing out that the USA is about to be the world's #1 oil producer.


Heads up: I've never stuck to party lines.
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Heads up: I've never stuck to party lines.
That is obvious to everyone who can read.

They see what they want to see - they think that because you point out certain uncomfortable facts that you are a Trump supporter instead of being anti-Trump - which you are and is clear to anyone who reads what you write.
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That is obvious to everyone who can read.

They see what they want to see - they think that because you point out certain uncomfortable facts that you are a Trump supporter instead of being anti-Trump - which you are and is clear to anyone who reads what you write.
it's bizarre that people can't see that! although, to be fair, I catch MUCH more heat from liberals for my pragmatic view of reality. I find that GFY conservatives are much more open to my viewpoint as long as I state it rationally.
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All of this because of a single text?

What kills me is all of these Congressmen are claiming that this single FBI is biased over a single text. The truth is.... All of these Congressmen are completely and utterly biased, and only going after this FBI agent because they are biased themselves. Perhaps we should be reading their emails and texts. Let's see how biased they really are.

All of this is disgusting.
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it's bizarre that people can't see that! although, to be fair, I catch MUCH more heat from liberals for my pragmatic view of reality. I find that GFY conservatives are much more open to my viewpoint as long as I state it rationally.
I'm not a huge fan of conservatives, either - another side of the same coin that takes the position - "You must agree with me and do what I say..."

The pendulum swings back and forth - at this moment in history, the alt-left are the crazy people. It wouldn't take much to swing the other way, though. I'm a little concerned with the inevitable departure of Ginsburg as 6-3 is not where I like to see things. If it's a choice between that and the hysterical left though, I have to take 6-3.
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All of this because of a single text?

What kills me is all of these Congressmen are claiming that this single FBI is biased over a single text. The truth is.... All of these Congressmen are completely and utterly biased, and only going after this FBI agent because they are biased themselves. Perhaps we should be reading their emails and texts. Let's see how biased they really are.

All of this is disgusting.
Generally. the thing is imo the fbi & cia are ripe for abuse of power. It's happened before. Strzok could very well be corrupt and in the loop on something not cool and that needs to be exposed.

I can seem to find any substantial proof of that though. can you?
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It is no surprise why things are not understood.
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Those congressmen are traitors to their country.

From what I saw, Strzok seems like a man who has actually been doing things to protect our country, while the men in congress conduct these kangaroo courts trying to get some soundbites FOX news can use against to vindicate the president. This FBI agent is the man who leads counter-intelligence against things such as "attacks by Russian hackers on our election", and these fucks are grilling him like he's the enemy. Those assholes are too dumb to know they're just as much an enemy to our country as the Russians are. All of them should be hung by the neck.
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All of this because of a single text?

What kills me is all of these Congressmen are claiming that this single FBI is biased over a single text. The truth is.... All of these Congressmen are completely and utterly biased, and only going after this FBI agent because they are biased themselves. Perhaps we should be reading their emails and texts. Let's see how biased they really are.

All of this is disgusting.
As usual, you're not even in the same fucking universe as the truth or the facts. There is no "single text". There are over 200 text messages where he is expressing his hatred of Trump and disdain for Republicans or "Trump supporters".

What is disgusting is this willful disregard for abuse after abuse after abuse after after abuse of power... just because Hillary lost.
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All of this because of a single text?

What kills me is all of these Congressmen are claiming that this single FBI is biased over a single text. The truth is.... All of these Congressmen are completely and utterly biased, and only going after this FBI agent because they are biased themselves. Perhaps we should be reading their emails and texts. Let's see how biased they really are.

All of this is disgusting.
You haven't been following, they exchanged over 50,000 texts during the election cycle. There is a large volume of anti Trump texts, ranging from we will stop it to he will be impeached. The impeachment text he sent before they had even interviewed a single person in the Russian probe, that information came out yesterday. Texts where after Trump was elected he said he had unfinished business unleashed due to the Clinton Email scandal and ''Needed to fix it''

The point is that the guy is anti Trump, there is no proof that this has had an effect on the investigation but obviously Mueller took him off the investigation and escorted him from the FBI building.

He failed a polygraph but kept his clearance which again was discussed yesterday and that it goes against normal bureau procedure. Is there any concrete evidence he did wrong due to his views? Not at the moment, but he isn't exactly a beacon of morality. He clearly is a liar, who is to say he is being truthful now?

But to say it's over 1 text shows you really haven't been paying attention. There were also thousands of texts that were deleted off his FBI phone that's shady as well.
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Generally. the thing is imo the fbi & cia are ripe for abuse of power. It's happened before. Strzok could very well be corrupt and in the loop on something not cool and that needs to be exposed.

I can seem to find any substantial proof of that though. can you?
Best way to explain the ''Proof'' is the same way Blade, Mark and the likes keep saying any day now the proof of Trump collusion will come out, the dominoes are falling. There is a lot of smoke around Strzok, nothing concrete yet, but to say he is a trustworthy guy and a patriot is certainly a stretch.
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Best way to explain the ''Proof'' is the same way Blade, Mark and the likes keep saying any day now the proof of Trump collusion will come out, the dominoes are falling. There is a lot of smoke around Strzok, nothing concrete yet, but to say he is a trustworthy guy and a patriot is certainly a stretch.
Was he a lone wolf then? or this is a CIA/FBI coverup? was he following orders?
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You're blind.
You couldn't be more incorrect. I see both sides of our political parties. Some issues I agree with and some I do not.

Being a United States citizen, did you get that ? 'A United States Citizen' - I do have the luxury of being opinionated on any political topic I chose. What amazes me is, you being from Montreal (moan-ree-all) constantly ridiculing our government when you do not reside here in the States.

A great example is you creating this topic. What does a Congressional Oversight Hearing / text message from a United States Federal Agent have to do with you / Montreal or Canada ?

This is yet another great example (as you responded I am blind) of defend anyone, whether it's criminal or ethics violations as long as Trump is the target and the Republican party looks dumb.

Carry on, Mark
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He a sniveling lying little piece of shit that will eventually get whats coming.. Even if he does snitch which IS what he's doing and the ONLY reason he's still on payroll and has FBI counsel.

Not surprised that you look up to a lying snitch.. And yes he has already been caught in several lies from yesterdays testimony..
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Was he a lone wolf then? or this is a CIA/FBI coverup? was he following orders?
I wouldn't know that, he isn't just some run of the mill agent like they seem to want to portray him. Yesterday during the hearing, it was abundantly clear he was Andrew McCabe's right hand man or at very least he was extremely important to Andrew (who is in hot water himself) This could go deeper than them and probably does (what ''this'' is we don't know, could be nothing) but Robert Mueller found out about the texts and emails in question and dismissed him instantly. Strzok claims it was due to the ''appearance of bias'' and there was no actual bias. Which is a very fine line for anyone, let alone someone who's disdain for Trump is as high as Bladewire's or Mark's. So it comes down to his track record, is he the kind of man who has enough integrity and is trustworthy enough for us to take him at his word that despite his hatred of Trump he did not let his opinions become bias. He has been proven to be a liar so.... He isn't no saint like the Dems and CNN and MSNBC are trying to portray him as, that's for sure

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He a sniveling lying little piece of shit that will eventually get whats coming.. Even if he does snitch which IS what he's doing and the ONLY reason he's still on payroll and has FBI counsel.

Not surprised that you look up to a lying snitch.. And yes he has already been caught in several lies from yesterdays testimony..
Well the FBI also in some way allowed thousands of text messages between him and Page to go missing. It's the biggest law enforcement agency in the world and the texts were on an FBI phone but they can't recover them? hmmmm
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You couldn't be more incorrect. I see both sides of our political parties. Some issues I agree with and some I do not.

Being a United States citizen, did you get that ? 'A United States Citizen' - I do have the luxury of being opinionated on any political topic I chose. What amazes me is, you being from Montreal (moan-ree-all) constantly ridiculing our government when you do not reside here in the States.

A great example is you creating this topic. What does a Congressional Oversight Hearing / text message from a United States Federal Agent have to do with you / Montreal or Canada ?

This is yet another great example (as you responded I am blind) of defend anyone, whether it's criminal or ethics violations as long as Trump is the target and the Republican party looks dumb.

Carry on, Mark

Mark watched the CNN clip where he responded to Gowdy and came off as the ultimate patriot. It was a rousing clip for sure and he came off great.... If that was all you saw, if you watched the entire thing, he came off as a condescending child, refusing to answer questions on the basis the FBI said he shouldn't then they get the FBI to say that he can answer those questions and again he doesn't answer them.
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Excellent topic Mark!

You've significantly triggered our resident alt-right hate troll and his fake nics. He's especially hateful and nasty today well done!



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Mark watched the CNN clip where he responded to Gowdy and came off as the ultimate patriot. It was a rousing clip for sure and he came off great.... If that was all you saw, if you watched the entire thing, he came off as a condescending child, refusing to answer questions on the basis the FBI said he shouldn't then they get the FBI to say that he can answer those questions and again he doesn't answer them.
He thought he was smarter than everyone in that room... He was really getting off on it..

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Meanwhile, what came out during the campaign :
- Hilary's 'new' emails were found on Anthony Weiner's laptop
- Investigation in Hilary's emails was re-opened

Not a single word or rumor that Trump campaign was under investigation

Makes you go .... Huuuuuuummmmmm ....
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I wouldn't know that, he isn't just some run of the mill agent like they seem to want to portray him. Yesterday during the hearing, it was abundantly clear he was Andrew McCabe's right hand man or at very least he was extremely important to Andrew (who is in hot water himself) This could go deeper than them and probably does (what ''this'' is we don't know, could be nothing) but Robert Mueller found out about the texts and emails in question and dismissed him instantly. Strzok claims it was due to the ''appearance of bias'' and there was no actual bias. Which is a very fine line for anyone, let alone someone who's disdain for Trump is as high as Bladewire's or Mark's. So it comes down to his track record, is he the kind of man who has enough integrity and is trustworthy enough for us to take him at his word that despite his hatred of Trump he did not let his opinions become bias. He has been proven to be a liar so.... He isn't no saint like the Dems and CNN and MSNBC are trying to portray him as, that's for sure

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/05/polit...ley/index.html
aren't the most damning texts the "we will stop it" ones? seems to me he gives a reasonable explanation:


"In terms of the texts that 'we will stop it,' you need to understand that was written late at night, off-the-cuff, and it was in response to a series of events that included then-candidate Trump insulting the immigrant family of a fallen war hero, and my presumption, based on that horrible, disgusting behavior, (was) that the American population would not elect somebody demonstrating that behavior to be the President of the United States."
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:15 AM   #38
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Meanwhile, what came out during the campaign :
- Hilary's 'new' emails were found on Anthony Weiner's laptop
- Investigation in Hilary's emails was re-opened

Not a single word or rumor that Trump campaign was under investigation

Makes you go .... Huuuuuuummmmmm ....
huuuuuuuummmm indeed

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aren't the most damning texts the "we will stop it" ones? seems to me he gives a reasonable explanation:


"In terms of the texts that 'we will stop it,' you need to understand that was written late at night, off-the-cuff, and it was in response to a series of events that included then-candidate Trump insulting the immigrant family of a fallen war hero, and my presumption, based on that horrible, disgusting behavior, (was) that the American population would not elect somebody demonstrating that behavior to be the President of the United States."
Yeah for sure, I think you would have to be nuts to think that he wasn't talking in jest or off the cuff. But if that is acceptable defense (which I do think it is) then why doesn't Donald get the same pass and apparently everything he says is the literal truth.
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Meanwhile, what came out during the campaign :
- Hilary's 'new' emails were found on Anthony Weiner's laptop
- Investigation in Hilary's emails was re-opened

Not a single word or rumor that Trump campaign was under investigation

Makes you go .... Huuuuuuummmmmm ....
Trump's whores don't care, he allows them to be openly racist they'd vote for him no matter what. How do I know this? Because they make excuses for everything he does since becoming POTUS. They're too low IQ and fueled by negative emotion. They have a lot of anger at not being able to understand the world around them and think logically so they just repeat what they're told.
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Trump's whores don't care, he allows them to be openly racist they'd vote for him no matter what. How do I know this? Because they make excuses for everything he does since becoming POTUS. They're too low IQ and fueled by negative emotion. They have a lot of anger at not being able to understand the world around them and think logically so they just repeat what they're told.
it's actually a reasonable convo. why not take us off ignore, I'd bet you have something relevant to add to it.
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Generally. the thing is imo the fbi & cia are ripe for abuse of power. It's happened before. Strzok could very well be corrupt and in the loop on something not cool and that needs to be exposed.

I can seem to find any substantial proof of that though. can you?
So... An FBI agent is not allowed to have personal opinions about government elections?

Newflash.... Nearly everyone who works in the government belongs to one of two parties.
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So... An FBI agent is not allowed to have personal opinions about government elections?

Newflash.... Nearly everyone who works in the government belongs to one of two parties.
Sure, I don't think anyone expects otherwise, but when you are one of the leading people on an open investigation into a person who you have stated is and Imbecile and you will stop and will be impeached, it's kind of hard to not understand why that person might have bias right?
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So... An FBI agent is not allowed to have personal opinions about government elections?

Newflash.... Nearly everyone who works in the government belongs to one of two parties.


Dafuck you news flashing me for? Especially on something as simple as what you're stating. Where dafuck did I ever state people don't have the right to personal views? What grade do you have to be in not to know the USA is a 2 party government. Jtfc.
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Dafuck you news flashing me for? Especially on something as simple as what you're stating. Where dafuck did I ever state people don't have the right to personal views? What grade do you have to be in not to know the USA is a 2 party government. Jtfc.
Rochard already proved in this thread he has no clue about the entire thing being debated here. He want's to come in and virtue signal and not engage in any real debate. To your credit I at least like that you try to discuss things instead of giving a generic talking point and the running away. Like Mark the hit and run master.
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Dafuck you news flashing me for? Especially on something as simple as what you're stating. Where dafuck did I ever state people don't have the right to personal views? What grade do you have to be in not to know the USA is a 2 party government. Jtfc.
I am not picking on you. Just in general.
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aren't the most damning texts the "we will stop it" ones? seems to me he gives a reasonable explanation:


"In terms of the texts that 'we will stop it,' you need to understand that was written late at night, off-the-cuff, and it was in response to a series of events that included then-candidate Trump insulting the immigrant family of a fallen war hero, and my presumption, based on that horrible, disgusting behavior, (was) that the American population would not elect somebody demonstrating that behavior to be the President of the United States."
That incident happened like 2 weeks before the text.... He made that shit up..
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I am not picking on you. Just in general.
Newsflash: That's a big reason why so many people find you annoying.
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You couldn't be more incorrect. I see both sides of our political parties. Some issues I agree with and some I do not.
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Being a United States citizen, did you get that ? 'A United States Citizen' - I do have the luxury of being opinionated on any political topic I chose.
As an outsider, I can see all sides. And as your closest neighbour and partner in trade & culture, I too can have that same luxury of opinion and freedom of expression.


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What amazes me is, you being from Montreal (moan-ree-all) constantly ridiculing our government when you do not reside here in the States.
I'll say it again - please read it this time and try to understand.

1. I, as your closest neighbour and partner in trade & culture, care what happens to you.

2. What Donald Trump says and does, affects the whole world.

3. And again as your closest neighbour, we see facism taking over your country. We see you throwing everything you hold dear such as freedom and democracy right out the window.

Instead of getting mad at me and fighting with me and other Canadians about this, try to see it from our point of view instead.



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A great example is you creating this topic. What does a Congressional Oversight Hearing / text message from a United States Federal Agent have to do with you / Montreal or Canada ?
If the Russians tipped the scales in your election to help Trump win (or even to help Hillary win), it has everything to do with us. It means that your democracy and freedom were attacked (and we care about that), and it means that Canada could be next (we really care about that).



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This is yet another great example (as you responded I am blind) of defend anyone, whether it's criminal or ethics violations as long as Trump is the target and the Republican party looks dumb.
No sir, this is where you have this all wrong. First, Trump can be the target of all kinds of dumb things but that's not what this thread is about. My OP is a comment on how I think Peter Strzok held his ground yesterday from endless, frivolous attacks from the republicans, and I think it's important.

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You know I will (and that's why you love me!)

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Honestly this shit makes me want to be an independent. Now you are kissing the ass of an obviously corrupt FBI agent? He would jail your ass in a minute!

You do know you can be against a president's policies and still not do everything your party says, right? Get some goddamn principles.
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