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Old 07-13-2018, 10:12 AM   #1
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So Germany owes Poland & Greece 700+ billion euros.

The leader of Poland’s ruling Law and Justice Party, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, has demanded reparations from Germany for the murder of “millions of people” and the destruction it brought during the Nazi occupation in WWII.
“This is a Polish-Germany issue, I mean it was Germany who invaded Poland, murdering millions of people, destroying material goods, and we must be compensated for this,” Kaczynski, who is considered to be one of the most powerful men in Poland and an influential official in the EU, said in an interview with Polskie Radio 24 on Friday.

https://www.rt.com/news/431229-polan...parations-ww2/


The Greek government says Germany owes Greece nearly €279bn (£204bn; $303bn) in war reparations for the Nazi occupation during World War Two.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32202768



Two German researchers claim that Germany owes Greece 185 billion euros in World War II reparations, of which less that 1 percent has been paid.

German Researchers: Berlin Owes Greece ?185 Bln in WW II Reparations | GreekReporter.com
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no wonder eu is imploding.........again.
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good point. Germans built a bunch of death camps in Poland and murdered millions of jews there.
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That's a lot of holocausts.

Those pesky Germans...
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this again....

it's not just germany.... eu...

it's the World... period....
Humans....
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So under this logic shouldn't Germany also owe:

France
England
Russia
Poland
Czech Republic
Spain
Italy
Norway
Sweden
The Netherlands
Belgium
Egypt
Morocco
Portugal

and most of all....
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So under this logic shouldn't Germany also owe:

France
England
Russia
Poland
Czech Republic
Spain
Italy
Norway
Sweden
The Netherlands
Belgium
Egypt
Morocco
Portugal

and most of all....
ISRAEL?
good point. what they owe is incalculable really. trillions. they'll whine and say they paid their reparations (~$25 Billion) but the amount they paid is trivial in relation to the death and destruction they're responsible for.

Volkswagen paid $50 billion for their clean diesel scam that polluted and still pollutes the world.
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Isn't this what started WWII to begin with?
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good point. what they owe is incalculable really. trillions. they'll whine and say they paid their reparations (~$25 Billion) but the amount they paid is trivial in relation to the death and destruction they're responsible for.
You've been bleeding them dry for decades, and that includes sending them "refugees".

There'll come a time when the German people say "enough's enough".

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That argument is actually not wrong, but in a world where reparations like that would happen, imagine the following:

Russia - Sowiet Union -> Eastern Europe
England, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands -> Former Colonies
US -> Native Americans, Japan, Vietnam, etc.

Reality is, almost, or every mighty country has bloody hands....
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So under this logic shouldn't Germany also owe:

France
England
Russia
Poland
Czech Republic
Spain
Italy
Norway
Sweden
The Netherlands
Belgium
Egypt
Morocco
Portugal

and most of all....
ISRAEL?
Spain? Would like to hear your logic on this one..
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Spain? Would like to hear your logic on this one..
Hernan Cortez & Pizzaro, total extinction of the Mayas, Aztecs & Incas maybe?
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Hernan Cortez & Pizzaro, total extinction of the Mayas, Aztecs & Incas maybe?
He said Germany should pay Spain

'So under this logic shouldn't Germany also owe:'
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That was long long time ago. Under this logic, Poland should pay its neighbour countries (Like Lithuania) for all the losses during Poland's glory days.
Also we (Poles) have their (German) city or Wroclaw (Breslau) , so what now we're going to give it back to them ?
Current Polish government is a populistic piece of #$

Also if this request from mr. Kaczynski gets fulfilled (and of course it won't, it's just a show off for the uneducated Polish voters who are current government major target)
now all other countries should start requesting reparations from each other.
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'So under this logic shouldn't Germany also owe:'
Ah, sorry, misread your reply

But don't forget the spanish civil war, where Germany, Italy & the Soviet Union tested their newest tanks & planes
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Isn't this what started WWII to begin with?
Not according to history.
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That argument is actually not wrong, but in a world where reparations like that would happen, imagine the following:

Russia - Sowiet Union -> Eastern Europe
England, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands -> Former Colonies
US -> Native Americans, Japan, Vietnam, etc.

Reality is, almost, or every mighty country has bloody hands....
Reparation pay for winners not for Poland
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That argument is actually not wrong, but in a world where reparations like that would happen, imagine the following:

Russia - Sowiet Union -> Eastern Europe
England, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands -> Former Colonies
US -> Native Americans, Japan, Vietnam, etc.

Reality is, almost, or every mighty country has bloody hands....
That would be great!

So Germany pays Holland more than the wiedergutmachungsschnitzel. We pay that to the colonies and the wining and crying and protest are over about the colonial period and will cost The Netherlands nothing. Deal!

Having been to those colonies i am sure the money will end up in some corrupted pocket. But who cares, we get the money 'for free'.

Gunther & Wolfgang, who live in the Netherlands some years and decided to stay after there was a conflict between Holland and Germany.
To give something back to Holland after living here for 50 years, and not integrating very well, the want to make a Wiedergutmachungsschnitzel



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So under this logic shouldn't Germany also owe:

France
England
Russia
Poland
Czech Republic
Spain
Italy
Norway
Sweden
The Netherlands
Belgium
Egypt
Morocco
Portugal

and most of all....
ISRAEL?
Definately not israel given that it wasn't even formed until after ww2
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Spain? Would like to hear your logic on this one..
In the 1930s, Germany was heavily involved in the Spanish Civil War. In fact, you could argue Germany was testing it's military forces and equipment in Spain during the Civil War there. Germany sent it's "new" Air Force and armored units to support the Nationalists. Hundreds of thousands of people died.

Then again, the Soviet Union supported the Spanish "Republicans".
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Franco and Hitler. Look it up.

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Definately not israel given that it wasn't even formed until after ww2
And where did the remaining Jews Hitler didn't manage to kill GO after WWII?
Is-ra-el.
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And where did the remaining Jews Hitler didn't manage to kill GO after WWII?
Is-ra-el.
No, they went to various other countries during the 3 years between the end of WW2 and the "founding" of israel. Also many people moved there that weren't affected by the war. Israel itself as a country was not destroyed by Germany. Warsaw was literally leveled to the ground.
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And where did the remaining Jews Hitler didn't manage to kill GO after WWII?
WE DON'T CARE.

Put the violin away. We see you now.
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if the USA was forced to pay reparations to the countries it invaded or destabilized, americans would not have food to eat
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Can we also claim the period of the cold war and we had to spent lots of money to the miltary. That also can be blamed on Germany.

And how long can we look back in history? Does the war between Holland and and the vikings count also? Than maybe we can claim something from them?
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Ah, sorry, misread your reply

But don't forget the spanish civil war, where Germany, Italy & the Soviet Union tested their newest tanks & planes
Germany/Italy's involvement was at the request of Franco, so cant really complain on that one.
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At the request of Franco.. learn history.
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Put the violin away. We see you now.
We all know you wish Hitler had finished the job you anti-Semitic fuckwit.
But thanks for showing us your lack of humanity yet AGAIN.

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At the request of Franco.. learn history.
Who cares who requested it? Hitler still got involved so pay up Adolf. Achtung baby!

I suppose you could ask Spain for reparations but we all know Spain is as broke as most of the posters in this thread so why bother.
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Finally, Germany will pay and the Poles and Greeks will have great life.

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I like your style, Lebovski ! This is Kosher business !

Poland self sufficient and strong, dont need no trade partners to be rich
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if the USA was forced to pay reparations to the countries it invaded or destabilized, americans would not have food to eat
this would make sense if any country was asking America for reparations, like poland and greece are asking germs, none are.

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the peace treaties in Paris where what? over 70 years ago? That settled those matters for the most part, everyone had a chance to make appeals for specific reparations at the time and did so then. Claiming anything now, this far removed is fuckin embarrassingly desperate. I can't see anything like this being treated seriously by anyone who matters.
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the peace treaties in Paris where what? over 70 years ago? That settled those matters for the most part, everyone had a chance to make appeals for specific reparations at the time and did so then. Claiming anything now, this far removed is fuckin embarrassingly desperate. I can't see anything like this being treated seriously by anyone who matters.
Poland at the time of the agreement had a puppet government installed by the soviets. Many (non-polish) legal experts believe that the claim against Germany is valid. I don't expect them to actually pay it (would be of course nice economic boost if they did) but I think it is more of a bargaining chip then anything.

As for claims about something that happened 70 years ago, Jews still make land claims against Poland to this day. Warsaw was literally rubble from bombing, the country took position of the land and sold it. Buildings/malls/etc were built or rebuilt. People fly in from Israel claiming that their great grandfather owned some land, and demand to have it returned. Even if the claim is true (which in many cases it is not) - the land which was empty or contained rubble from bombing is now developed with a skyscraper worth 100mil euros on it. Most people from the US I mention to seem to think it's fine despite Poland having paid money to the USA after WW2 for which the US agreed to settle all Jewish land claims with.
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the peace treaties in Paris where what? over 70 years ago? That settled those matters for the most part, everyone had a chance to make appeals for specific reparations at the time and did so then. Claiming anything now, this far removed is fuckin embarrassingly desperate. I can't see anything like this being treated seriously by anyone who matters.
in both cases it's an awesome method to distract people from things that currently happen - like in Poland where the judicial system gets kidnapped by the ruling party so that in the future they can put their own friendly judges everywhere.

so saying something about germans always triggers a large % of the population and the unpopular things disappear in the noise
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regardless of Poland politics, the pain of what germans did to them still lingers. 70 years and a few billion isn't enough to make up for the millions of murders and total destruction.
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regardless of Poland politics, the pain of what germans did to them still lingers. 70 years and a few billion isn't enough to make up for the millions of murders and total destruction.
Agree, Poland is a master in martyrology. Together with brothers, Israel and Serbia
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