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sarettah · 07-21-2018, 08:16 PM

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...r-former-trump

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The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Saturday released documents related to the surveillance warrants on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page as part of the federal investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia.

The documents have been at the heart of a controversy over alleged bias at the FBI.

The heavily redacted application materials - 412 pages, including an initial application and several applications to renew the surveillance - indicate that the FBI "believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian government ... to undermine and influence the outcome of the 2016 U.S. presidential election in violation of U.S. criminal law."

All sorts of new stuff to sift through to find new mysteries, deep state interference and Obama/Clinton conspiracies.

Have fun guys.

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beerptrol · 07-21-2018, 08:17 PM

They won't take the time to read that. They will wait for the alt right news sites to post propaganda about it telling them how they should think and then post it here

onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol

They won't take the time to read that. They will wait for the alt right news sites to post propaganda about it telling them how they should think and then post it here

Already read half of it. FBI is a complete fucking joke if this is how they conduct investigations. Everything is how those Republican's that you hate say it is.. They had no evidence at all except the fake dossier and fake news media reports (information Steele gave out himself).. They even mention in the application that Carter Page offered to come in and discuss the news reports but as we know they didn't talk to him until March of 2017.. Even though he was an informant of theirs up until months prior.

sarettah · 07-21-2018, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol

They won't take the time to read that. They will wait for the alt right news sites to post propaganda about it telling them how they should think and then post it here

I think onwebcam reads through most of the stuff he posts. He is usually very concise in his summarization as he reaches a totally illogical conclusion ;p

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onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

I think onwebcam reads through most of the stuff he posts. He is usually very concise in his summarization as he reaches a totally illogical conclusion ;p

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illogical if you buy the fake news

8pt-buck · 07-21-2018, 08:41 PM

Is this the same

Quote:

Rep. Devin Nunes who used political donations to pay for nearly $15,000 in tickets to Boston Celtics basketball games as well as winery tours and lavish trips to Las Vegas ?

Quote:

His PAC also spent about $42,741 since 2013 on catering, site rentals, hotels and meals in Las Vegas. The most recent instance was March 9, when the PAC spent $7,229 at seven different restaurants and hotels in Las Vegas.

On June 19, the PAC’s expenditures included nearly $5,000 spent at six wineries in Paso Robles and Santa Margarita, both outside his district in California, and about $5,000 to Gold Coast Limousine the same day.

Credible to say the least. Thanks for the laugh, Sara.

onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 08:52 PM

Carter Page is already working on his lawsuit no doubt.. Unfortunate that that snitch may get rich from this. Unless he turns out to be a deep cover snitch here as well. Considering he worked for Bill Clinton's transition team and then his admin that's looking very likely.. There's a few reasons why Nunes and co are zeroing in on prior to July.. One of those reasons is because Page was still on FBI payroll then. They are trying to flush out that he was a plant. If he was, it was a complete diabolical setup from day 1.

Edit.. Page was still on FBI payroll while he was "under surveillance" They started surveillance in March 2016....

This also means Rosenstein, Wray, Strzok all lied to Congress.

Edit 2... This means they were watching him starting at day 1 of joining Trumps campaign....

kane · 07-21-2018, 09:32 PM

Page was a straight up Russian asset. . . you heard it here first.

Rochard · 07-21-2018, 09:42 PM

I skimmed over the documents today.... But it basically implies Paige was directly working for the Russians.

onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

Page was a straight up Russian asset. . . you heard it here first.

You are missing the fact he was on FBI payroll for snitching on Russians. In fact he was on payroll right up until June of 2016.. While he was still on Trump's campaign.. Page was a FBI asset for sure... Likely deep cover CIA.. He began his career on Bill Clinton's transition team...

onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

I skimmed over the documents today.... But it basically implies Paige was directly working for the Russians.

It implies what you have been disagreeing with me about all along.. There is ZERO evidence other than the dossier and news articles that Steele himself fed to the media via the dossier.. The "contacts" made are already proven to have been "arranged" as in the same people were targeting multiple people on the campaign... It's exactly as Nunes and co have been saying, exactly as alt media has been saying, exactly what you've been in denial on all along... It was a setup.. A sham, a fraud...

onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 10:02 PM

Oh and BTW the warrant never mentions the Clinton campaign paid for the dossier.. It says "business associate" and "law firm" paid for it.. Another lie by the left... And the FBI misled the court.

Bladewire · 07-21-2018, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...r-former-trump

All sorts of new stuff to sift through to find new mysteries, deep state interference and Obama/Clinton conspiracies.

Have fun guys.

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412 pages of evidence and ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

It implies what you have been disagreeing with me about all along.. There is ZERO evidence .. exactly what you've been in denial on all along... It was a setup.. A sham, a fraud...

Useless propoganda twat not 2 brain cells left

onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

412 pages of evidence and ...

Useless propoganda that not 2 brain cells left

ZERO evidence but the dossier and media reports about the content of the dossier which steele leaked himself...

We are talking about initial application.. That's what matters... That's what started everything...

They discuss Page's dealing with Russian's prior.. But FAIL to mention he was a paid informant an testifying against said Russians for the FBI in one of those circumstances... Again, misleading the court...

I have yet to finish the renewals.. But I've read comments from those that have.. The "evidence" gets even thinner from what I hear.. If that's even possible.

Bladewire · 07-21-2018, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

ZERO evidence but the dossier and media reports about the content of the dossier which steele leaked himself...

We are talking about initial application.. That's what matters... That's what started everything...

10 minutes after the thread was created you chime in saying you've already read 206 pages (half)

You are mentally Ill

Reality is here and you are in complete denial

The walls of truth have surrounded you and you can't accept it because you've wasted 2 years of your life spewing propoganda for a lying scamming crook!

Rochard · 07-21-2018, 10:11 PM

All you need to know about the documents is the FBI directly accused page of being a spy for the Russian government.

the FBI used various iterations of the following phrases, terms and accusations: (1) “The target of of this application is an agent of a foreign power”; (2) “The following describes the foreign power and sets forth in detail a description of the target and the target’s activities for or on behalf of this foreign power.”; (3) “Carter W. Page [redacted] knowingly engage in clandestine intelligence activities (other than intelligence gathering activities) for or on behalf of such foreign power, which activities involve or are about to involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States, or knowingly conspires with other person to engage in such activities and, therefore, is an agent of a foreign power as defined by 50 U.S.C. § 1801(b)(2)(E).” (4) This application targets Carter Page. The FBI believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian Government [redacted] undermine and influence the outcome of the 2016 U.S. Presidential election in violation of U.S. criminal law. Page is a former foreign policy advisor to a Candidate for U.S. President (Candidate #1).”; (5) “As discussed below, Page has established relationships with Russian Government officials, including Russian intelligence officers. [redacted]”

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...-fisa-warrant/

Jesus fucking Christ. So you have Carter Page here is directly working for the Russian government, Micheal Flynn had to resign because he was having secret meetings with the Russians, Jeff Sessions was having secret meeting with the Russians and then lied about them under oath, Manafort is currently sitting in jail.....

But I'm sure it's a nothing burger.

Drip. Drip. Drip.

Bladewire · 07-21-2018, 10:13 PM

It's a true miracle!!

On Saturday night Onwebcan aka 8pt-buck fake nics randomly happen to login within MINUTES of each other and post only in this thread!

Wow!

Fake nics!

onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

All you need to know about the documents is the FBI directly accused page of being a spy for the Russian government.

the FBI used various iterations of the following phrases, terms and accusations: (1) “The target of of this application is an agent of a foreign power”; (2) “The following describes the foreign power and sets forth in detail a description of the target and the target’s activities for or on behalf of this foreign power.”; (3) “Carter W. Page [redacted] knowingly engage in clandestine intelligence activities (other than intelligence gathering activities) for or on behalf of such foreign power, which activities involve or are about to involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States, or knowingly conspires with other person to engage in such activities and, therefore, is an agent of a foreign power as defined by 50 U.S.C. § 1801(b)(2)(E).” (4) This application targets Carter Page. The FBI believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian Government [redacted] undermine and influence the outcome of the 2016 U.S. Presidential election in violation of U.S. criminal law. Page is a former foreign policy advisor to a Candidate for U.S. President (Candidate #1).”; (5) “As discussed below, Page has established relationships with Russian Government officials, including Russian intelligence officers. [redacted]”

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...-fisa-warrant/

Jesus fucking Christ. So you have Carter Page here is directly working for the Russian government, Micheal Flynn had to resign because he was having secret meetings with the Russians, Jeff Sessions was having secret meeting with the Russians and then lied about them under oath, Manafort is currently sitting in jail.....

But I'm sure it's a nothing burger.

Drip. Drip. Drip.

Jesus fucking Christ if they thought he was working for the Russians then why did they have him on payroll to testify against...... Russians? If he was a Russian agent then why isn't he in jail? Because he wasn't he was working for them... Snitches walk free.. Russian agents do not..

onwebcam · 07-21-2018, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

10 minutes after the thread was created you chime in saying you've already read 206 pages (half)

You are mentally Ill

Reality is here and you are in complete denial

The walls of truth have surrounded you and you can't accept it because you've wasted 2 years of your life spewing propoganda for a lying scamming crook!

Hello moron, I've been reading it since the foia requester posted it.. If I wasn't toying around with you and life in general I would have already read it all.

crockett · 07-22-2018, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...r-former-trump

All sorts of new stuff to sift through to find new mysteries, deep state interference and Obama/Clinton conspiracies.

Have fun guys.

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It's too bad for them that the documents show Devin Nunes and House Republicans lied their asses off..

sarettah · 07-22-2018, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucky

Is this the same

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Rep. Devin Nunes who used political donations to pay for nearly $15,000 in tickets to Boston Celtics basketball games as well as winery tours and lavish trips to Las Vegas ?

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His PAC also spent about $42,741 since 2013 on catering, site rentals, hotels and meals in Las Vegas. The most recent instance was March 9, when the PAC spent $7,229 at seven different restaurants and hotels in Las Vegas.

On June 19, the PAC’s expenditures included nearly $5,000 spent at six wineries in Paso Robles and Santa Margarita, both outside his district in California, and about $5,000 to Gold Coast Limousine the same day.

What are you talking about Buckarooney? This thread is about the FISA applications.

Please try to stay on topic. Mmmmmkay?

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crockett · 07-22-2018, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

What are you talking about Buckarooney? This thread is about the FISA applications.

Please try to stay on topic. Mmmmmkay?

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It's probably important to show Devin Nunes is a corrupt lying piece of shit. The documents show that the FBI did not rely on the Dossier for the warrants as Nunes & Republicans tried to make everyone believe.

Nunes and House Republicans went out of their way to cherry pick and release only half of the story, just like Democrats said they were doing. In short Nunes & House Republicans lied to the American people.

Since then we've learned Nunes & Rand Paul have illegally used campaign contributions for personal gains.. Showing neither of these guys can be trusted with anything they say.. Oddly enough they were two of the biggest loud mouths pushing the false story that the FBI used only the Dossier to get the FISA warrant when everyone else said that was not true. Turns out everyone else was right Nunes & House Republicans lied.

Showing that Nunes can't be trusted because he's broken campaign finance laws is important being Nunes was in charge of the House/Russia investigation..

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

The documents show that the FBI did not rely on the Dossier for the warrants as Nunes & Republicans tried to make everyone believe.

Not sure which documents you are reading because that exactly what it says.

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Hello moron, I've been reading it since the foia requester posted it.. If I wasn't toying around with you and life in general I would have already read it all.

Oh you're testy today. You're Russian stooge Assange is headed for prison AGAIN and Carter page has the goods on your russian operation. Winter is coming comrade

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Not sure which documents you are reading because that exactly what it says.

Can you link to each page that mentions the dossier?

A keyword search of the 412 pages shows no result for dossier

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Can you link to each page that mentions the dossier?

A keyword search of the 412 pages shows no result for dossier

On page 16.. They call it "research" not a dossier.. It's discussed elsewhere but that's the introduction.

Page 21 begins the news articles which were used to verify the dossier.. Which were admittedly leaked by Steele himself.

It's all a very simple read because so much is redacted.. Given what the DOJ and FBI have redacted in the past we WILL learn they redacted shit that reflects bad on them.. Now that this has been released the pressure on Trump to declassify begins.

Acepimp · 07-22-2018, 06:44 AM

I love how the dumb people here try to deny the facts

Carter Page was an FBI informant. He's never met Trump. He was PLANTED into the campaign. It was part of the plan to accuse him of russian spying, in order to get the FISA warrant to spy on the entire Trump campaign team.

This is all highly illegal.

crockett · 07-22-2018, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

On page 16.. They call it "research" not a dossier.. It's discussed elsewhere but that's the introduction.

age 21 begins the news articles which were used to verify the dossier.. Which were admittedly leaked by Steele himself.

I should have known basic information would escape your ability to comprehend.. Nunes and House Republicans claimed the dossier was the main reason and the only evidence for the first warrants. It wasnt and the warrants were originally granted long before the FBI obtained the dossier.

The dossier was only used as part of the case for a continuation of the original film warrant..

8pt-buck · 07-22-2018, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

It's probably important to show Devin Nunes is a corrupt lying piece of shit. The documents show that the FBI did not rely on the Dossier for the warrants as Nunes & Republicans tried to make everyone believe.

Nunes and House Republicans went out of their way to cherry pick and release only half of the story, just like Democrats said they were doing. In short Nunes & House Republicans lied to the American people.

Since then we've learned Nunes & Rand Paul have illegally used campaign contributions for personal gains.. Showing neither of these guys can be trusted with anything they say.. Oddly enough they were two of the biggest loud mouths pushing the false story that the FBI used only the Dossier to get the FISA warrant when everyone else said that was not true. Turns out everyone else was right Nunes & House Republicans lied.

Showing that Nunes can't be trusted because he's broken campaign finance laws is important being Nunes was in charge of the House/Russia investigation..

Thank you. My point exactly and is why I brought up Devin Nunes's background.
Sarattah at times has to be spoon fed details as he / she insists everyone READs the article. It's obvious Sara's ADHD symptoms prevent him / her from connecting the dots.

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

I should have known basic information would escape your ability to comprehend.. Nunes and House Republicans claimed the dossier was the main reason and the only evidence for the first warrants. It wasnt and the warrants were originally granted long before the FBI obtained the dossier.

The dossier was only used as part of the case for a continuation of the original film warrant..

You really have no fucking clue what you're talking about.. The damn dossier is referred to in the warrant on page 16... It is THE only "evidence" most everything else revolves around it such as the articles starting at page 21. You too fucking stupid to comprehend what you're reading I guess?

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

On page 16.. They call it "research" not a dossier.. It's discussed elsewhere but that's the introduction.

Page 21 begins the news articles which were used to verify the dossier.. Which were admittedly leaked by Steele himself.

It's all a very simple read because so much is redacted.. Given what the DOJ and FBI have redacted in the past we WILL learn they redacted shit that reflects bad on them.. Now that this has been released the pressure on Trump to declassify begins.

News articles is not the dossier.

News articles were used.

Show me where they used the dossier.

You made a specific claim that the dossier was used in that 412 page FISA warrant application. Please give page numbers where your claim is proven.

Thank you

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

News articles is not the dossier.

News articles were used.

Show me where they used the dossier.

You made a specific claim that the dossier was used in that 421 page please give page numbers where your claim is proven.

Thank you

PAGE 16 Page 101 (1st renewal app)

Page 21 is articles backing up the information in the dossier... They attached portions of the actual dossier to the warrant as reference...

Notice no new information was added on 1st renewal app... It's the exact same application.. They didn't want to risk getting shut down. The purpose of renewal is to update the court on findings so the judge can determine whether or not it should continue ..

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

PAGE 16 Page 101

Page 21 is articles backing up the information in the dossier... They attached portions of the actual dossier to the warrant as reference...

News articles are NOT the dossier, they are news articles.

You said the dossier was used.

Please prove what you said and show where the dossier was used.

Here are all 412 pages of the FISA application on SCRIBD. Search and show me where the dossier is mentioned and used as you allege.

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

News articles are NOT the dossier, they are news articles.

You said the dossier was used.

Please prove what you said and show where the dossier was used.

Here are all 412 pages of the FISA application on SCRIBD. Search and show me where the dossier is mentioned and used as you allege.

You playing stupid little games..

"dossier" is a MSM term to make it sound intriguing.. It's called "research" as in opposition research... I already told you this but as usual you're ignoring it..

PAGE 16... Page 16 is not "news articles" it's referring to the "dossier" > research itself... Which was attached to the warrant as reference for "source 1".. "source 1" who is also referred to as being released as a source because as we now know he was leaking information from the "research" to the press. They fail to mention that reason and also fail to mention those are the same articles they used as references.

Arguing this is pointless.. No one has ever stated the dossier wasn't used and or included.. YOU ARE COMPLETELY MAKING THAT UP

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You playing stupid little games..

"dossier" is MSM term to make it sound intriguing.. It's called "research" as in opposition research... I already told you this but as usual you're ignoring it..

PAGE 16... Page 16 is not "news articles" it's referring to the "dossier" > research itself... Which was attached to the warrant as reference..

Arguing this is pointless.. No one has ever stated the dossier wasn't used and or included.. YOU ARE COMPLETELY MAKING THAT UP

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

They had no evidence at all except the fake dossier and fake news media reports

You said they only used the dossier in the FISA application.

Out of 412 pages you linked to a page about news articles, NOT the dossier.

Then you claim the term "research" on page 101 equals "dossier".

You lied again.

You can't back up your fucked up fantasyland, yet again!

Rochard · 07-22-2018, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

It's probably important to show Devin Nunes is a corrupt lying piece of shit. The documents show that the FBI did not rely on the Dossier for the warrants as Nunes & Republicans tried to make everyone believe.

Nunes and House Republicans went out of their way to cherry pick and release only half of the story, just like Democrats said they were doing. In short Nunes & House Republicans lied to the American people.

Since then we've learned Nunes & Rand Paul have illegally used campaign contributions for personal gains.. Showing neither of these guys can be trusted with anything they say.. Oddly enough they were two of the biggest loud mouths pushing the false story that the FBI used only the Dossier to get the FISA warrant when everyone else said that was not true. Turns out everyone else was right Nunes & House Republicans lied.

Showing that Nunes can't be trusted because he's broken campaign finance laws is important being Nunes was in charge of the House/Russia investigation..

History is going to judge all of these people.

In the event that is is proved there was collusion, people like Nunes who supported this will not have a leg to stand. At the same time, anyone in the Republican party in Congress who failed to take a stand on what is happening will also have a lot of issues and will most likely be voted out of office.

Keep in mind Watergate took six or seven years and over sixty people were indicted.

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Then you claim the term "research" on page 101 equals "dossier".

Opposition research is "research".. "Dossier" is a fake news term.. You got me.. I used your fake news sources term. I thought I would speak your language.

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

History is going to judge all of these people.

In the event that is is proved there was collusion, people like Nunes who supported this will not have a leg to stand. At the same time, anyone in the Republican party in Congress who failed to take a stand on what is happening will also have a lot of issues and will most likely be voted out of office.

Keep in mind Watergate took six or seven years and over sixty people were indicted.

So fucking clueless. The one's that will be judged are those that signed this treasonous warrant

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 08:13 AM

More "evidence" discovered.. The warrant references Senator Harry Reid sent a letter to Comey about information he obtained from John Brennan about the "dossier"

They corroborated their evidence with evidence of hearsay of evidence.

sarettah · 07-22-2018, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8pt-buck

Thank you. My point exactly and is why I brought up Devin Nunes's background.
Sarattah at times has to be spoon fed details as he / she insists everyone READs the article. It's obvious Sara's ADHD symptoms prevent him / her from connecting the dots.

Okey dokey Bucky,

The thread was about the FISA application at the time you chimed in. Not about Nunes or the Republican memo. So, you bringing Nunes corruption into the mix did not make sense to me, especially when prefaced with "Is this the same...".

It still doesn't make sense as in another thread the other day you indicated that Trump had gotten rid of all the corruption so if he did then how can Nunes be corrupt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8pt-buck

Draining the swamp

No more lavish parties.
No more committee chairmanships for sale.
No more Pay-to-play corruption.
No more Backroom arm-twisting.
No more votes on major legislation going to the highest bidder
No more corrupt politicians lining their pockets
Delete Obama's existence

But you can have the spin you want and we will now all believe that you think Nunes is corrupt and therefore anything he does should not be believed. So, from your perspective the republican memo is now bullshit. Good to see you on the right side of an
issue for once.

Now, Bucky, can you connect the dots?

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onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 08:17 AM

FBI directly lied to the court.. They admit they fired Steele as a source (not mentioning why > because he was talking to the press) and they told the court they didn't believe he was the source of the articles they reference we now know he was in fact the source on.

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

FBI directly lied to the court.. They admit they fired Steele as a source

Where does it say that in the 412 page FISA application?

Or is this another unprovable lie by you?

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Where does it say that in the 412 page FISA application?

Or is this another unprovable lie by you?

No it's information that has been public for quite awhile, you've just kept your blinders on.. It's another problem with the warrant and also one reason why they blacked out dates.. Because if they fired Steele prior to submitting the application then they submitted the very first warrant knowing full well Steele had leaked and didn't mention this to the court.. Even if it was after, instead of notifying the court immediately after his firing they waited until the 2nd application months later.. Which is why you find it on the second application on page 100.. in bold..

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

No it's information that has been public for quite awhile,

Ok prove it.

Where do they say that? Not in the 412 FISA application, so where online do they say that?

You keep saying things as fact that you can't prove.

Rochard · 07-22-2018, 12:36 PM

Steel Dossier? Why are we talking about this? The Steele Dossier was paid for by the Republican party. Some of it has been verified.

This investigation and the original FISA warrant was initiated before the Steele Dossier. In fact, this investigation started before Trump announced he was running for office.

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Steel Dossier? Why are we talking about this? The Steele Dossier was paid for by the Republican party. Some of it has been verified.

This investigation and the original FISA warrant was initiated before the Steele Dossier. In fact, this investigation started before Trump announced he was running for office.

No it wasn't.. Steele testified in the lawsuit against him that he did not begin the "dossier" until after he was hired by the DNC.. His own words... Which makes since considering they fed him the information within it...

Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.b773f9dd4577

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ok prove it.

Where do they say that? Not in the 412 FISA application, so where online do they say that?

You keep saying things as fact that you can't prove.

It IS on the renewal on page 100 as I stated... They "notified" the court 3 months after the fact on the 1st renewal.

FISA memo: Steele fired as an FBI source for breaking 'cardinal rule' --leaking to the media | Fox News

Those "leaks" are the news reports the FBI used to corroborate the "evidence" > dossier

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

It IS on the renewal on page 100 as I stated... They "notified" the court 3 months after the fact on the 1st renewal.

FISA memo: Steele fired as an FBI source for breaking 'cardinal rule' --leaking to the media | Fox News

Those "leaks" are the news reports the FBI used to corroborate the "evidence" > dossier

So he leaked to the media and was fired.

What's your point?

onwebcam · 07-22-2018, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

So he leaked to the media and was fired.

What's your point?

There are several points that you keep ignoring..

1. The FBI used those leaks to corroborate his "research"
2. If they fired him before the first application they knowing submitted the application without informing the court that source #1 (the MAIN source) leaked to the media the corroborating evidence..
3. Even if they fired him after the 1st application they state they fired him in October and they didn't notify the court until the renewal application 3 months later which is against policy.. They are suppose to notify the court immediately..

Their main source became untrustworthy the moment they learned he was the source of these leaks.. What HAS to be determined is when they learned of this. Which is what Nunes and co are trying to do..

Bladewire · 07-22-2018, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

There are several points that you keep ignoring..

1. The FBI used those leaks to corroborate his "research"
2. If they fired him before the first application they knowing submitted the application without informing the court that source #1 (the MAIN source) leaked to the media the corroborating evidence..
3. Even if they fired him after the 1st application they state they fired him in October and they didn't notify the court until the renewal application 3 months later which is against policy.. They are suppose to notify the court immediately..

Their main source became untrustworthy the moment they learned he was the source of these leaks.. What HAS to be determined is when they learned of this. Which is what Nunes and co are trying to do..

So he leaked to the media and was fired.

What's your point?

He's untrustworthy as a source because of a leak. False.

You really try hard to invalidate the truth. This is part of your biased psychological defect.

If your "logic" was true jailhouse informants would be invalid, which is not reality.

07-21-2018, 08:17 PM	#2
beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	They won't take the time to read that. They will wait for the alt right news sites to post propaganda about it telling them how they should think and then post it here __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

07-21-2018, 08:52 PM	#7
onwebcam Fake Nick 1.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rent free, your head Posts: 26,766	Carter Page is already working on his lawsuit no doubt.. Unfortunate that that snitch may get rich from this. Unless he turns out to be a deep cover snitch here as well. Considering he worked for Bill Clinton's transition team and then his admin that's looking very likely.. There's a few reasons why Nunes and co are zeroing in on prior to July.. One of those reasons is because Page was still on FBI payroll then. They are trying to flush out that he was a plant. If he was, it was a complete diabolical setup from day 1. Edit.. Page was still on FBI payroll while he was "under surveillance" They started surveillance in March 2016.... This also means Rosenstein, Wray, Strzok all lied to Congress. Edit 2... This means they were watching him starting at day 1 of joining Trumps campaign.... __________________ PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF..... ██████████████████▒ 99.5% complete.

07-21-2018, 09:42 PM	#9
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 70,243	I skimmed over the documents today.... But it basically implies Paige was directly working for the Russians. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

07-21-2018, 10:02 PM	#12
onwebcam Fake Nick 1.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rent free, your head Posts: 26,766	Oh and BTW the warrant never mentions the Clinton campaign paid for the dossier.. It says "business associate" and "law firm" paid for it.. Another lie by the left... And the FBI misled the court. __________________ PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF..... ██████████████████▒ 99.5% complete.

07-21-2018, 10:11 PM	#16
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 70,243	All you need to know about the documents is the FBI directly accused page of being a spy for the Russian government. the FBI used various iterations of the following phrases, terms and accusations: (1) “The target of of this application is an agent of a foreign power”; (2) “The following describes the foreign power and sets forth in detail a description of the target and the target’s activities for or on behalf of this foreign power.”; (3) “Carter W. Page [redacted] knowingly engage in clandestine intelligence activities (other than intelligence gathering activities) for or on behalf of such foreign power, which activities involve or are about to involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States, or knowingly conspires with other person to engage in such activities and, therefore, is an agent of a foreign power as defined by 50 U.S.C. § 1801(b)(2)(E).” (4) This application targets Carter Page. The FBI believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian Government [redacted] undermine and influence the outcome of the 2016 U.S. Presidential election in violation of U.S. criminal law. Page is a former foreign policy advisor to a Candidate for U.S. President (Candidate #1).”; (5) “As discussed below, Page has established relationships with Russian Government officials, including Russian intelligence officers. [redacted]” https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...-fisa-warrant/ Jesus fucking Christ. So you have Carter Page here is directly working for the Russian government, Micheal Flynn had to resign because he was having secret meetings with the Russians, Jeff Sessions was having secret meeting with the Russians and then lied about them under oath, Manafort is currently sitting in jail..... But I'm sure it's a nothing burger. Drip. Drip. Drip. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

07-21-2018, 09:32 PM	#8
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Page was a straight up Russian asset. . . you heard it here first.

07-21-2018, 10:13 PM	#17
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	It's a true miracle!! On Saturday night Onwebcan aka 8pt-buck fake nics randomly happen to login within MINUTES of each other and post only in this thread! Wow! Fake nics!

07-22-2018, 06:44 AM	#27
Acepimp All Facts Matter Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: East Coast Posts: 16,593	I love how the dumb people here try to deny the facts Carter Page was an FBI informant. He's never met Trump. He was PLANTED into the campaign. It was part of the plan to accuse him of russian spying, in order to get the FISA warrant to spy on the entire Trump campaign team. This is all highly illegal. __________________ Earn Recurring Money with ➜ Live Adult Webcams \| CrakRevenue \| Dream Cash Like Hot Sluts? >> DaniDanielsPorn.com Just Surfing? Chat with Streamate Camgirls

07-22-2018, 08:13 AM	#39
onwebcam Fake Nick 1.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rent free, your head Posts: 26,766	More "evidence" discovered.. The warrant references Senator Harry Reid sent a letter to Comey about information he obtained from John Brennan about the "dossier" They corroborated their evidence with evidence of hearsay of evidence. __________________ PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF..... ██████████████████▒ 99.5% complete.

07-22-2018, 08:17 AM	#41
onwebcam Fake Nick 1.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rent free, your head Posts: 26,766	FBI directly lied to the court.. They admit they fired Steele as a source (not mentioning why > because he was talking to the press) and they told the court they didn't believe he was the source of the articles they reference we now know he was in fact the source on. __________________ PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF..... ██████████████████▒ 99.5% complete.

07-22-2018, 12:36 PM	#45
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 70,243	Steel Dossier? Why are we talking about this? The Steele Dossier was paid for by the Republican party. Some of it has been verified. This investigation and the original FISA warrant was initiated before the Steele Dossier. In fact, this investigation started before Trump announced he was running for office. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION