crockett

Last week when Republicans started pushing for a Monday deadline for the 1st Kavanaugh accuser it was because there was news of a second accuser wgo hadnt come forward yet.. Yep the "family value" Republicans are trying to push through a Kavanaugh vote before the second accuser goes public..


https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...social_twitter


Rapelicans have no integrity, morals or values..

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"Ramirez alleges that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her at a college party, where they had both been drinking, "thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away."

And Avenatti claims 'evidence' of 'targeting' women for gang rape

Kavanaugh faces new accusations; Avenatti claims 'evidence' of 'targeting' women for gang rape | Fox News

Byebye Kavanaugh

OneHungLo

On to the next one i guess...

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BaldBastard

No it's irrelevant now, he's out face it. What you need to prey for is that not one of the accusers have anything, because that will bring down everyone who's been attacking these woman. But as far as Kavanaugh goes, he's history.

dyna mo

I'm not shocked tone deaf repubs needed to cling to kavanaugh. Now come the consequences.

TampaToker

lol this is getting ridiculous now

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OneHungLo

Another one lol

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TampaToker

Please tell me this is a joke now i gotta see this douche bags face on tv 24/7 again lol

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MUTLIPLE Outlets Passed On Second Kavanaugh Accusation… So Why Did The New Yorker Run It?
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Rochard

You are right. It is getting ridiculous.

The President, a man known to sexually assault women (grab them by the pussy!), who cheated on all of his wives (most recently with a porn star!), who ran a campaign where nearly everyone involved either plead guilty to multiple felonies or was found guilty of multiple felonies.... Is attempting to put a man on the Supreme Court, a lifetime position on the highest court in the land, who is the least popular Supreme Court Justice nominee of all time, who is now being accused of sexually assaulting not one but two different women.

What is ridiculous is a Supreme Court nominee is being accused of a felony and not a single soul in the entire Republican party is remotely interested in putting this on pause if only for a few days to look into this. I don't even care of the charges are even true at this point. This man has been accused of sexually assaulting someone and the Republican party couldn't offer him a lifetime seat on the highest court of the land quick enough.

WTF?

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TampaToker

Wtf you do you mean you do not care if the charges are true or not?. What the fuck kind of rational human being would say such a fucking stupid thing. Any fucking person with any common sense knows a person is innocent till proven guilty. What if there are allegations about you that could resurface does that means its true of course not.

Seriously dude you need to shut the fuck up time after time you prove you are a bigger fucking moron. You are nothing but a political hack and have said some of the stupidest shit over the years on gfy but this takes the cake.

No need to reply done trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you are one driven by emotions and not facts. Says a lot about your character. Glad i do not have to deal with you in my life because you are truly a dumbass carry on.......

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They spent the past 6 days of stalling "convincing" her he was the one...

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He is saying nobody wants to even look into the charges. They are automatically dismissing them without any looking into them. Regardless of what ever your feelings are against Rochard, if someone is saying somebody raped them, do you not even want to investigate it? He is not really saying he doesn't care if she was raped or had an attempt upon her, it's the fact that even with these allegations, they want to rush him in.

I can tell you, I have met Rochard, and he is also a Marine, and from my understanding he has been a lifelong republican until recent history. This is how you alienate yourself.

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It's fucking Rochead.

k0nr4d

I honestly cannot remember any meaningless high school party besides literally one where we all took mushrooms for the first time, and I'm 34 so this would have been say 16-18 years ago. These people are claiming to remember every person and event, while wasted at a party - twice that long ago...

If it did happen at all, I bet it was all in good fun and she was laughing at the time.

Fucking witch hunts and kangaroo courts...

TampaToker

Who is going to look at the charges its not a criminal matter so police are not gonna look at it. They are calling on the FBI to investigate which they wont. So now you have political hacks on both sides of the isle investigating this give me a break.

Truth is nobody here or around the world knows the truth but the people that are involved...

As for rushing them in yes you know damn well the dems are trying to stall this to midterms in hope to get enough seats to block Kavanaugh. The Republicans are trying to move forward quickly in case they lose seats.

I have been a democrat my whole life now switched to independent but do not know what that has to do with anything. Kavanaugh is done either way if these allegations are proven to be true or not. Folks have all ready made up there minds and picked there teams on this issue.

Keith Ellison the #2 democrat said Friday "he can’t be sure there won’t be additional abuse allegations brought against him" yet democrats are saying a fucking word about him. Democratic party doesn’t believe the women who brought these accusations so they are not calling for fbi to investigate wtf!

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dyna mo

The second accuser is a republican hatchet job planted to discredit the first accuser. This is republican crisis management.

beerptrol

Democrats have to be careful. James O'Keeffe and Project Veritas like to try and plant fake victims in order to discredit the real victims and the media

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Avenatti says he represents woman with ‘credible information’ about Kavanaugh

“We will be demanding the opportunity to present testimony to the committee and will likewise be demanding that Judge and others be subpoenaed to testify,” he tweeted Sunday night. “The nomination must be withdrawn.”

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crockett

Sorry we are dealing with Rapelicans.. the same party that was ok with a child molester running for the Senate.. the party of Jesus doesnt give a shit about anything but their team winning. They will make excuses for rape, sexual assault, child molesters and anything but being black or brown is all ok..

When they learned of this second accuser last week before it broke to the media, they didnt take pause as potentially electing a rapist to the Supreme Court, they instead tried to speed up the process of nomination in hopes they could get him confirmed before it broke.

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crockett

Look its baddog, doesnt read Rochards post, just reads the first line of a fellow Rapelican and agrees with him..

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crockett

I dont think they are smart enough to pull anything like that off with out getting caught. We are talking the Trump era Republicans here.. they arent the smartest tools in the shed, just tools..

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dyna mo

you're probably right. although I wouldn't be shocked.

Rochard

This right here is the problem.

This man is being nominated for a LIFETIME appointment to the HIGHEST COURT in the country. A very serious accusation has been put out there, a felony, and the Republican party and the Republican controlled Congress isn't even going to pause to catch it's breath. The Republican party can't push this through quick enough. We should be having an investigation, but instead the Republican party is saying "We can't have an investigation" and "The FBI doesn't look into local crimes". Bullshit. Bull fucking shit. The FBI can open up the background investigation easily and quickly, in fact, it's routine to re-open up a background investigation when new information comes up.

And it's not just the Republicans in Congress either. It's Republicans. There is an interview on TV where they talked to four Republican women and it's disgusting. One woman said "They didn't even take off her clothes so it's not a crime". Really? So now it's perfectly legal to walk around, pin women to walls, and fondle them? Another women in that interview said "What seventeen year hasn't pinned a woman to a couch against her will and fondled them" making it out so that all teenage boys are rapists and it's perfectly acceptable.

The charges surely don't matter to the Republican party or the Republicans in Congress. They don't want to talk to this woman, and if they are do, they are putting a lot of conditions on her interview or testimony.

Why isn't Congress stopping everything and putting all of this on hold until we are sure a rapist isn't getting a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land? Is that too much to ask for?

But wait, it gets better. This weekend another woman came forward with accusations. It seems now there are also two other women making similar accusations. We are now up to four women making accusations of sexual assault.

Of course I care about the charges. But more importantly to me is how this being handled - The Republican party is trying to push through someone who might be a rapist and they just don't care. What happened to morals and values in the Republican party? What happened to holding people to a higher standard?

This is a lifetime nomination to the highest court in the country. If there so much as a single hair out of place on his head, we need to stop everything immediately and investigate until we are 200% positive this man is the right man for a lifetime appointment.

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Rochard

This is exactly what I am saying.

The problem is how the Republican party is handling this. There are completely dismissing this without even considering it. The truth doesn't matter.

I was a hardcore Republican until Whitewater (which was some time ago). We all saw first hand that the truth wasn't important to Republican party. Monica Lewinsky should have never been brought into the line of questioning; She had nothing to do with with the Whitewater investigation. Their ONLY intention with the six year investigation into Whitewater was to make a sitting President look bad.

And now we Trump who refuses to go under oath.

The Republican party has no morals and no values.

Grab them by the pussy.

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k0nr4d

I'm not advocating rape here or anything but when you were 16-17 did you get written permission from girls every time you tried to stick your hand down their pants, or did you kinda just go for it whilst making out and hope for the best? My guess is the latter

There's a long way between harmless fooling around in hgihschool and this 'raping and felonies' you're talking about. Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't, maybe she's lieing about the context of the situation (maybe she went in there willingly, maybe they were all drunk). For all we know she sucked off 6 other guys at the party but I bet she wouldn't be admitting to THAT part of the night...

dyna mo

you make valid points in general, but the specifics here are that as kavanaugh groped her and tried to rip off her clothes as he pinned her down with his body weight, he had to put a hand over her mouth to muffle her screaming.

PR_Glen

which is why they are investigating it further. you don't just assume people are lying about something like this without looking into it further.

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Come on ......

That is just '' boys being boys '' .....

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Hey idiots.. There are pictures of Ramirez and Kavanaugh posing and smiling together AFTER the alleged incident out now..

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dyna mo

most importantly, she passed a polygraph and had told a therapist about this ~8 years ago.

which imo corroborates her credibility and warrant an investigation.

this may be a political hit job, an investigation would reveal that too.

kavanaugh is THE guy.

k0nr4d

Great - but what difference does an investigation make? Do they have a fucking time machine to go back and watch what happened? She's saying she did, he's saying he didn't. There's no evidence, no witnesses, no torn clothing, nothing unless she kept some cum-stained bed-sheet or something. Word against word in a suspiciously timed accusation. If it happened, it's wrong, but it's unprovable and this exactly is the reason why statutes of limitations exist.

Put yourself in his shoes - some girl you groped while making out when you were 14 comes out of nowhere deciding she was sexually assaulted by you.

dyna mo

the state this occurred in has no statute of limitations on attempted rape.

the argument that an investigation would bear no fruit, especially in rape cases, bears no fruit. We have a serious rape problem here and hiding behind the difficulty of investigating rape is no longer acceptable. Combined with sending a horrible message that we give a free lifetime SCJ pass to an alleged rapist.

VRPdommy

While I don't like being able to go back to things you may have done as a very young person unless there is a pattern,
I did think him to be somewhat 'CREEPY' before the first accusation !

He surrounds himself with 'WOMEN' wanting to work their way up the ladder.

https://www.law.com/nationallawjourn...20180824121739

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I don't like the HURRY-UP with this...
...How long did they stall Obabma's nominee.... ... Till After the election as they said, "LET THE VOTERS DECIDE"

Rochard

There is a huge difference between getting to second base with someone who is willing vs forcibly pinning someone to the ground and fondling them. One is a date between to consenting people and the other is a felony.

Shouldn't we stop and find out? Or should we say "Maybe it didn't happen" and then give him a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the country?

And? Would that change anything? No.

Her sucking off six other guys at the party is poor judgement and bad morals and values. It still doesn't condone him sexually assaulting a woman.

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k0nr4d

OK - So how? How is she going to prove anything? She SAYS he ripped off her cloths and tried to rape her. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Maybe she invited it. The burden of proof is on her. What are they going to investigate exactly? Character witnesses? It's out of character for me to rape someone too, but I could of course easily overpower some random woman on the street if I wanted to. Let's for argument's sake assume he did do it. Any investigation will be inconclusive and ultimately dropped. He is not going to go to jail based on here-say on an incident from that long ago.

We actually have a friend here that's a judge. He said he takes every rape case he works on with a grain of salt, and that many if not most rape cases are full of holes and are bullshit. Wife gets caught cheating, claims she was raped etc.

dyna mo

that's a shitty judge, to pre-judge rape cases. holy crap. certainly that's not OK

k0nr4d

Where did I say he pre-judges them? I said he takes them with a grain of salt rather then take everything at face value and automatically call the guy a rapist (as you guys have been doing in this thread, by the way). This is EXACTLY what a judge should do. One case is a rape, one case is of full of shit. Every case is unique.

dyna mo

that's what grain of salt means, to view something with skepticism, if he views all rape cases with skepticism, then he is pre-judging rape cases.

k0nr4d

So in your opinion a judge should not be skeptical of everything said to him? How would court cases look?

Her: He raped me!
Judge: I believe you.
Him: I didn't rape her!
Judge: I also believe you.

dyna mo

Of course not. Due process is how the system works. But the system requires impartial juries, you know that. the entire task of selecting a jury is to find unbiased, impartial jurors to weigh the evidence. Judges are assigned their seats because they are supposed to have the same value system.

But again, specifically, we are talking about an SC appointment here, not a criminal court case. while the same standards should be maintained, the fact that this is one of the most powerful positions in America, and a life long appointment, it's extremely important to properly vet kavanaugh. it's simply too powerful a position to handle willy nilly.

k0nr4d

Right, so when I say he takes it with a grain of salt - I mean "she says he raped her, but maybe he didn't.". This is impartiality.

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Rochard

Are you kidding?

A woman is accusing a man of a very serious crime. It would be handled just like any other accusation. Investigators would try to pinpoint the date, time, and place of the party, and then try to determine if both of them were there. Then they would interview other people that were there. Maybe some of them saw the three of them in a room alone. Maybe directly after the incident she told someone about it. It seems she also told her husband about this incident, her shrink, and it also seems it was common knowledge at the school - one other classmate came forward and said she had heard rumors about the incident in school.

The problem is we aren't even investigating.

This is insane. If your local school board was considering a new high school principal and someone came forward saying twenty years ago this person raped them, would you be okay with the school board hiring this person without any kind of an investigation?

Now three other woman have come forward with other stories.

This man was the most unpopular Supreme Court Justice nominee ever before these accusations came out. Why are Republicans pushing so hard for this nominee? Oh, that's right... They want to rig the Supreme Court in their favor in the event there is a legal issue with the Mueller investigation and it becomes a legal manner.

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dyna mo

That makes sense. thx for the clarification.

Acepimp

Because it's clearly a PLOY by dumb Democrats?? Where were these people during the confirmation hearings? Where were these people when JudgeK was put on the DC circuit court of appeals? Where were these people when the FBI investigated JudgeK 6 times??

You leftists are so gullible

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Anyone remember this guy...

His nomination sat in front of the republican senate for 293 days and never was put up for a vote...
How soon most forget what is dirty politics.
For those that can't count well, that's 80% of a year.
1/5th of a presidential term.
And NOT EVEN A VOTE

What does this say about ? DEMOCRACY ?
where a few people in leadership roles take the total power of changing the balance of power by just not for-filling their constitutional duty and allowing a vote mandated by the constitution.

I really do not want to hear about fairness from them now. No matter any allegations.

Oh.. why would they do such a thing...
Because if they allowed a vote, he would have been confirmed !
And that being a republican majority senate !