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Old 04-21-2019, 04:41 AM   #1
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It's not a debate; it's an mathematical equation :

Vaccines work / you = dumb

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It's not a debate; it's an mathematical equation :

Vaccines work / you = dumb

If vaccines worked and were safe, the industry would perform studies to prove they brought a net benefit
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Too many have blindly followed the official narrative, time to take a closer look, watching the video is a good starting point.
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If vaccines worked and were safe, the industry would perform studies to prove they brought a net benefit
Face it; you're an idiot without the capacity to correct yourself no matter what information is available.

Here's your study idiot :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4675157/


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Vaccine effectiveness was estimated at 96.7% (95% confidence interval [CI]: 94.5–98.0%) for one dose and 99.7% (95% CI: 99.2–99.9%) for two doses of measles vaccine. For at least one dose, effectiveness was estimated at 98.7% (95% CI: 97.9–99.2%). Sensitivity analyses did not significantly alter the base estimates.
Do you drool when you try to dream up a way to dismiss reality?

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OP has the ability to see what millions of healthcare professionals can not...it is called dunning kruger...he is dunning kruger man!
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Face it; you're an idiot without the capacity to correct yourself no matter what information is available.

Here's your study idiot :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4675157/

Do you drool when you try to dream up a way to dismiss reality?

What it is important to understand is the sheer number of variables and health outcomes, finding that a vaccine is effective at preventing one illness is not the same as proving that a vaccine is beneficial to overall health and increasing one’s lifespan. If a study shows that sterioids make you muscles grow big, it doesn’t mean everyone should take them, we need to look at all kinds of health outcomes and potential side effects, only when we look at the big picture can be make a fully informed judgement on weighing the risks against the benefit.
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OP has the ability to see what millions of healthcare professionals can not...it is called dunning kruger...he is dunning kruger man!
You have an excellent understanding of war, but with Big Pharma you would need to start watching some of the videos from experts that I post.
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What it is important to understand is the sheer number of variables and health outcomes, finding that a vaccine is effective at preventing one illness is not the same as proving that a vaccine is beneficial to overall health and increasing one’s lifespan. If a study shows that sterioids make you muscles grow big, it doesn’t mean everyone should take them, we need to look at all kinds of health outcomes and potential side effects, only when we look at the big picture can be make a fully informed judgement on weighing the risks against the benefit.
Like I already said :

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You have an excellent understanding of war, but with Big Pharma you would need to start watching some of the videos from experts that I post.
No videos can change the fact that every doctor in my country is pro vaxx...every one...none are claiming it is 100% safe but there is no doubt about the benefits...some people die from peanuts...
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Like I already said :

Face it; you're an idiot without the capacity to correct yourself no matter what information is available.

You have not given me any evidence that you know anymore about this than what you have read in a few mainstream media soundbites. When I debate you you quickly resort to namecalling, which is not helpful and only makes it appear you are out of your depth with the substance and detail.

I should make it clear that I only drew my conclusions after thousands of hours of research, whereas the majority here will have spent less than 10 hours in total on the topic.
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No videos can change the fact that every doctor in my country is pro vaxx...every one...none are claiming it is 100% safe but there is no doubt about the benefits...some people die from peanuts...
I can guarentee you that not every doctor in your country is pro-vaccine, you have made a false assumption. Even if they were, why not listen to respected doctors from other countries who are speaking out against vaccines?

People die from peanut allergies which are caused by vaccines, thanks for bringing that up; peanut allergies only appeared after pharma started adding peanut oil into specific vaccines.
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I can guarentee you that not every doctor in your country is pro-vaccine, you have made a false assumption.
Read that again WHP.

You are so fucking arrogant.

You tell they guy he has made a false assumption based on what exactly ??

Because you fucking say so ?

Because you know ths for a fact ?
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Read that again WHP.

You are so fucking arrogant.

You tell they guy he has made a false assumption based on what exactly ??

Because you fucking say so ?

Because you know ths for a fact ?
Where is the evidence that every doctor is pro-vaccine in Serbia? Think of the probabilities involved, you would have more chance of winning the lottery jackpot 3 weeks in a row.
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Too many have blindly followed the official narrative, time to take a closer look, watching the video is a good starting point.
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You have not given me any evidence that you know anymore about this than what you have read in a few mainstream media soundbites. When I debate you you quickly resort to namecalling, which is not helpful and only makes it appear you are out of your depth with the substance and detail.

I should make it clear that I only drew my conclusions after thousands of hours of research, whereas the majority here will have spent less than 10 hours in total on the topic.
My evidence is my military shot records when I was a child and watching the non-military kids in my school get fucked up with chicken pox and measles.

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Where is the evidence that every doctor is pro-vaccine in Serbia? Think of the probabilities involved, you would have more chance of winning the lottery jackpot 3 weeks in a row.
You want to talk about probabilities ?

The probabilities regarding vaccinations being good for the population ? And the huge weight of scientific argument supporting it ?

Against your “internet research”.

Fuck off.

And I know all of your shitty talking points. The fact is that the science, and the actual 70+ years of field study of real world use of vaccines, supports the theory that even where some side effects are a given, the wider populations are benefitted by wide scale use of vaccines.

Whereas ill conceived fucktards like you should be held criminally responsible for the bullshit that you spread.

YOU are the cancer dickhead.

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My evidence is my military shot records when I was a child and watching the non-military kids in my school get fucked up with chicken pox and measles.

In the UK they don’t vaccinate against chicken pox as it is seen as so pointless. Measles is no biggie, I had it and got to watch TV for a week.

You have been fearmongered by an industry who wants to scare you into buying their products. The problem is that the vaccines are causing chronic health conditions, far worse than mild short-term childhood viruses.
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You want to talk about probabilities ?

The probabilities regarding vaccinations being good for the population ? And the huge weight of scientific argument supporting it ?

Against your “internet research”.

Fuck off.

And I know all of your shitty talking points. The fact is that the science, and the actual 70+ years of field study of real world use of vaccines, supports the theory that even where some side effects are a given, the wider populations are benefitted by wide scale use of vaccines.

Whereas ill conceived fucktards like you should be held criminally responsible for the bullshit that you spread.

YOU are the cancer dickhead.

Your blind trust in Big Pharma is misplaced, do you trust McDonalds too? And Coca Cola? You think the companies have your best interests at heart. Companies who knowingly conspired to get the US population addicted to opioids, who pushed more and more antibiotics for short-term profit, regardless of the catastrophe it would lead us into.

You have outsourced your thinking to a highly corrupt industry, whereas I decided to do years of research and get myself informed in the state of the science. You are gullible, naive and as well as being a known troll.
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In the UK they don’t vaccinate against chicken pox as it is seen as so pointless. Measles is no biggie, I had it and got to watch TV for a week.

You have been fearmongered by an industry who wants to scare you into buying their products. The problem is that the vaccines are causing chronic health conditions, far worse than mild short-term childhood viruses.
You have been brainwashed with conspiracy theories.

If any of the stuff you said were true then military kids would have all kind of things wrong
and the military would have all the data and stop giving child vaccines.
But the opposite is true and anyone can see that except conspiracy nuts who think the earth is flat too.

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In the UK they don’t vaccinate against chicken pox as it is seen as so pointless. Measles is no biggie, I had it and got to watch TV for a week.

You're the poster boy on how measles fucks up a persons brain.


Measles Cause Brain Damage
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You have been brainwashed with conspiracy theories.

If any of the stuff you said were true then military kids would have all kind of things wrong
and the military would have all the data and stop giving child vaccines.
But the opposite is true and anyone can see that except conspiracy nuts who think the earth is flat too.

Military kids do have asthma, ezcema, epilepsy, diabetes type 1, childhood leukemia, ms, peanut allergies and more.

This is evidence-based, many doctors are warning,everything I learned is from studies and listening to experts I have two science degrees and have been involved for many years. I know this is hard for you to accept, as pro-vaccine beliefs have been drilled into us as kids at a religious level, making it difficult for people to ask questions and look at the actual science and data. You will have to let go of your pro-vaccine religion and start researching with an open-mind before you will be able to understand the points I am raising today.

If you think the experts who speak out against vaccines also believe the Earth is flat, it tells me you have been misled by weaponized pharma propaganda.
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He's the kind that if his kid became diabetic he wouldn't give it insulin because of 'big pharma' and end up in jail for murder.
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You're the poster boy on how measles fucks up a persons brain.


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Look up the autism rate, look up videos before/after vaccines on social media, vaccines are causing far bigger problems than measles ever did, vaccines are causing more harm than good.

Try using your brain for a second, would pharma really want to prevent disease given that they profit from disease? Pharma are a cut-throat ruthless industry, they prioritize money, they do not want to make their profits disappear by reducing disease. Vaccines are how they induce long-term disease, meaning customers for life, that is why vaccines get to bypass all real science, as their job is to fuck you up and make you into a customer.
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Vaccines cause Diabetes Type 1
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Your blind trust in Big Pharma is misplaced, do you trust McDonalds too? And Coca Cola? You think the companies have your best interests at heart. Companies who knowingly conspired to get the US population addicted to opioids, who pushed more and more antibiotics for short-term profit, regardless of the catastrophe it would lead us into.

You have outsourced your thinking to a highly corrupt industry, whereas I decided to do years of research and get myself informed in the state of the science. You are gullible, naive and as well as being a known troll.
Right, my blind trust jesus.

You have blind trust in “internet research”, with zero interest in the credibility of your sources as long as they agree with you.

You spout bullshit on every conspiracy out there. Dont you see how this removes any credibility from your argument ?

Please tell us more about the Lizard People ? Tell us more about the hollow moon where they live ?

Now I absolutely agree with you about the Opioid issue the the US. That is a national disgrace. But this does nothing to further your argument or change the facts about vaccinations. I would also add that if Trump called a national emergency and requested huge funding to tackle this crisis he would go up in my estimations. But funding his campaign slogan / post-it to please his base...???....not so much.

And please tell me, you said I am a “known troll”, what does that actually mean ?
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