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Old 11-30-2020, 02:23 AM   #1
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I can help you out and I shoot myself. I don't broker this out. Los Angeles models . Big Black Cocks. Before going further you're looking at $3500 minimum per scene... This is NOT edited. Editing could cost couple hundred more.

There is Covid Testing fees if larger crew required

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I can help you out and I shoot myself. I don't broker this out. Los Angeles models . Big Black Cocks. Before going further you're looking at $3500 minimum per scene... This is NOT edited. Editing could cost couple hundred more.

There is Covid Testing fees if larger crew required

Price includess.

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for 3.500 usd per scene, I can shoot myself 3 scenes.
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for 3.500 usd per scene, I can shoot myself 3 scenes.
Sure go ahead then . Good luck getting quality content for $1200 per scene . Location , talent , agency fees , covid tests , soft core , hard core , photos. You should mention you don't want professional content. .
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Sure go ahead then . Good luck getting quality content for $1200 per scene . Location , talent , agency fees , covid tests , soft core , hard core , photos. You should mention you don't want professional content. .
I'm a producer, photographer, editor.
now I live in Czech Republic.

I can produce myself, shoot, and edit.

I was trying to find other producers to produce in other locations, not just europe.
but for that price, I already have USA contacts to produce high level content.

thanks for your offer, but you know better then me that your price is very high.
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We make really original exclusive/ non-exclusive videos. We can send you the necessary samples of our photo/video content.
We are working on client's order.
In our modelbase there are a lot of models – in different age, nationality and haircolours. We can cooperate in content producing and distribution with another producers.
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I send you a letter to your email with our samples


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I'm a producer, photographer, editor.
now I live in Czech Republic.

I can produce myself, shoot, and edit.

I was trying to find other producers to produce in other locations, not just europe.
but for that price, I already have USA contacts to produce high level content.

thanks for your offer, but you know better then me that your price is very high.
Oh yeah high level producers here in USA for $1200 a scene , female talent alone here costs that, why don't you post a sample of your high level content. Very curious what 1200 buys
Im sure all of are as we are all obviously doing something wrong in Los Angeles.
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Just FYI

Female Talent - $1100 min
Male Talent - $700 min
Agency Fee - $100
Makeup - $100
Location - $500
Crew and Covid testing - $200 min
Production - $800 min

Thats $3500

Now you can shoot in the park and hope not get arrested lose the $500
Can lose Makeup and mostly thats a mistake
Can not offer Covid testing but no one will come
Can cut talent costs but then need additional money to supply crack on set

So please educate us sir.
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these are realistics
Female Talent - $1100 min (depend on name)
Male Talent - $700 min (depend on name)
Agency Fee - $100 (in reality you call models directly)
Makeup - $100 (depend on level)

props, food = 100 (in reality less than 3 hours of work, no food is necessary)
cameraman - operator 250 (2 scenes per day - 500 usd)

total = 4.400 usd for 2 scenes in one day
if you wanna stay larger, include a big location. 5.000 usd per 2 scenes, in one day,
one full title= 10.000

with your calculations, one title, 4 scenes = 14.000 usd (+40% of realistic cost)

these are not correct fees
Location - $500 (for that cost you pay a super Villa, but in the end you shoot on a couch)
Crew and Covid testing - $200 min (crew? how many people you need to shoot a porno? for clockwork orange by Kubric there were 9 people in total, actors included)
Production - $800 min (production means? cameraman? photographer? assistant? runner? , for one video 800?
are you an AI engineer?

thanks for your offer, but I'm not interested.
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I gonna call your competitor then, Elon Musk.
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these are realistics
Female Talent - $1100 min (depend on name)
Male Talent - $700 min (depend on name)
Agency Fee - $100 (in reality you call models directly)
Makeup - $100 (depend on level)

props, food = 100 (in reality less than 3 hours of work, no food is necessary)
cameraman - operator 250 (2 scenes per day - 500 usd)

total = 4.400 usd for 2 scenes in one day
if you wanna stay larger, include a big location. 5.000 usd per 2 scenes, in one day,
one full title= 10.000

with your calculations, one title, 4 scenes = 14.000 usd (+40% of realistic cost)

these are not correct fees
Location - $500 (for that cost you pay a super Villa, but in the end you shoot on a couch)
Crew and Covid testing - $200 min (crew? how many people you need to shoot a porno? for clockwork orange by Kubric there were 9 people in total, actors included)
Production - $800 min (production means? cameraman? photographer? assistant? runner? , for one video 800?
are you an AI engineer?

thanks for your offer, but I'm not interested.
Well obviously you never shot in the United States. You will NOT get a model unless she on crack to shoot two interracial scenes for $1100 Yopu may able to get models to shoot for bread money in your third world country , models that speak broken english that DO NOT CONVERT.

And Yes Im an A1 engineer and I charge $800 to shoot a scene.
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I gonna call your competitor then, Elon Musk.

Oh yeah 557 posts since 2013 , you're a real go getter. They shouldn't allow amateurs to post here unless they have a clue.
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Wheres my homie Aaron M . This is like the good ole days.
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1.100 usd for each scene. read better and use a calculator.

anyway, I'm not interested in your offer. you shoot very cheap content.
we are in a third world country? yeah sure. as you wish

posting on gfy doesn't mean to be professional or amateur.
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Female Talent
1100 x 2 = 2.200
Male Talent
700 x 2 = 1.400
Agency Fee
100 x 2 = 200
Makeup -
100 x 2 = 200
props, food = 100
cameraman - 500
location = 500

total = 5.100 usd, for 2 scenes

NOT 3.500 USD FOR EACH SCENE.

understood?

anyway, I'm not interested in your services, you shoot low quality content, and too expensive.
you should call yourself "amateur"
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Female Talent
1100 x 2 = 2.200
Male Talent
700 x 2 = 1.400
Agency Fee
100 x 2 = 200
Makeup -
100 x 2 = 200
props, food = 100
cameraman - 500
location = 500

total = 5.100 usd, for 2 scenes

NOT 3.500 USD FOR EACH SCENE.

understood?

anyway, I'm not interested in your services, you shoot low quality content, and too expensive.
you should call yourself "amateur"

HEY MR 559 POST YOU COULDNT POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH THE WORK IVE DONE OVER 20 YEARS. Your a fucking euro bottom feeder with no concept of production. Lets see some of your work. Lets see you HIGH END production you've done. Ive shot the biggest names in the industry constantly. Come Hell Boy. You're probably 21 and just looking for jack off material spending moms money she gives you for allowance.
Surely a pro like you will have a production site. And Im not talking stuff you bought
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HEY MR 559 POST YOU COULDNT POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH THE WORK IVE DONE OVER 20 YEARS. Your a fucking euro bottom feeder with no concept of production. Lets see some of your work. Lets see you HIGH END production you've done. Ive shot the biggest names in the industry constantly. Come Hell Boy. You're probably 21 and just looking for jack off material spending moms money she gives you for allowance.
Surely a pro like you will have a production site. And Im not talking stuff you bought
as you wish. now you understand why I don't want your services. you just able to insult.
ok, I'm from a poor country, Italy, and I live in Czech Republic, another poor country.
you are in the richest country, without a president.

amacontent: amateur content

I saw your productions, I'm not interested.
you respect money, not people.
my studio doesn't work like that.
we respect people.
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as you wish. now you understand why I don't want your services. you just able to insult.
ok, I'm from a poor country, Italy, and I live in Czech Republic, another poor country.
you are in the richest country, without a president.

amacontent: amateur content

I saw your productions, I'm not interested.
you respect money, not people.
my studio doesn't work like that.
we respect people.
Bla Bla Bla USA sucks. You're just a clueless idiot. If it weren't for us you'd be speaking German.
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Bla Bla Bla USA sucks. You're just a clueless idiot. If it weren't for us you'd be speaking German.
LOL
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If it weren't for us you'd be speaking German.
but now it's going to be a very ugly level Joe

just draw a line and you're done.
You are too expensive in his eyes and you don't want to pay his price.
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for 3.500 usd per scene, I can shoot myself 3 scenes.
Remembering that $1000USD is about €800, that is very doubtful as most girls in the EU are charging €600 a scene, then you will have their agency fee on-top 20%, your starting to break budget without considering the rest of your over heads.

I can also understand the asking for just to get some different locations and girls, but pricing outside the EU is higher and exclusive also.

I think the problem, why you cannot get the content you need or want, is because you are not realistically accepting the price of the production, given that the Czech Republic has had very little restrictions during the whole of 2020, if you are able to produce content that economically, then why haven’t you?


I have had to adapt from pricing in the UK to the EU and again pricing in the USA and as much as I love the Japanese ladies, their prices are even higher. I do not dismiss it, as the cost of living in Japan is much higher. But what I do not say it…

“I can get.. ”
“I can do... “

Because I that was the case, I would be.


I hope you find someone that can help you out or work in partnership with.
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Remembering that $1000USD is about €800, that is very doubtful as most girls in the EU are charging €600 a scene, then you will have their agency fee on-top 20%, your starting to break budget without considering the rest of your over heads.

I can also understand the asking for just to get some different locations and girls, but pricing outside the EU is higher and exclusive also.

I think the problem, why you cannot get the content you need or want, is because you are not realistically accepting the price of the production, given that the Czech Republic has had very little restrictions during the whole of 2020, if you are able to produce content that economically, then why haven’t you?


I have had to adapt from pricing in the UK to the EU and again pricing in the USA and as much as I love the Japanese ladies, their prices are even higher. I do not dismiss it, as the cost of living in Japan is much higher. But what I do not say it…

“I can get.. ”
“I can do... “

Because I that was the case, I would be.


I hope you find someone that can help you out or work in partnership with.
I am in Prague and pay by day NOT by scene and get models for Euro 250 to 300 per day ( lesbian only). Never had problem finding models.
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that sukes Juri !!!!
this is the lowest level
that's the only way to reply to such NAZI insults

"in your third world country"
"Your a fucking euro bottom feeder with no concept of production"
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Remembering that $1000USD is about €800, that is very doubtful as most girls in the EU are charging €600 a scene, then you will have their agency fee on-top 20%, your starting to break budget without considering the rest of your over heads.

I can also understand the asking for just to get some different locations and girls, but pricing outside the EU is higher and exclusive also.

I think the problem, why you cannot get the content you need or want, is because you are not realistically accepting the price of the production, given that the Czech Republic has had very little restrictions during the whole of 2020, if you are able to produce content that economically, then why haven’t you?


I have had to adapt from pricing in the UK to the EU and again pricing in the USA and as much as I love the Japanese ladies, their prices are even higher. I do not dismiss it, as the cost of living in Japan is much higher. But what I do not say it…

“I can get.. ”
“I can do... “

Because I that was the case, I would be.


I hope you find someone that can help you out or work in partnership with.
first of all, I'm free to produce in other countries, outside Czech Republic. or simply stay here.
I already have my good contacts in USA. people I trust.
but is always funny to read replies and prices here on gfy.

people that ask crazy money and insult at the same time.

sounds more like an aggressive selling strategy. PNL for desperates.
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Remembering that $1000USD is about €800, that is very doubtful as most girls in the EU are charging €600 a scene, then you will have their agency fee on-top 20%, your starting to break budget without considering the rest of your over heads.

I can also understand the asking for just to get some different locations and girls, but pricing outside the EU is higher and exclusive also.

I think the problem, why you cannot get the content you need or want, is because you are not realistically accepting the price of the production, given that the Czech Republic has had very little restrictions during the whole of 2020, if you are able to produce content that economically, then why haven’t you?


I have had to adapt from pricing in the UK to the EU and again pricing in the USA and as much as I love the Japanese ladies, their prices are even higher. I do not dismiss it, as the cost of living in Japan is much higher. But what I do not say it…

“I can get.. ”
“I can do... “

Because I that was the case, I would be.


I hope you find someone that can help you out or work in partnership with.
why I didn't produce till now?
cause my idea is to have solid distribution channels before move into productions.
no much restrictions here in Czech Republic? if you think so.
not really easy to produce when all is closed, even locations you normally rent.
but that's not the issue,
issue is always that distributions channels went down during covid,
so why I should produce if distribution is almost blocked?
so I spent my time on fixing paysites, nats, elevatedx, campaigns, arrange some old content, seo softwares.

yeah. I do all that by myself, cause is very hard to find a programmer that know NATS,
or someone that ask less than 2.000 usd to make one single page.
so I did all myself.

and here is time for productions, same as for NATS, or elevatedx,
the porn world is full of people that say to be "super expert" but in reality they are not.

so its time to go back in production.
if I learnt to use NATS and elevatedx, shooting some pornos cannot be so difficult.

I will give some jobs to others when I will find the correct person, that know how to present himself, his job and be polite.
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but now it's going to be a very ugly level Joe

just draw a line and you're done.
You are too expensive in his eyes and you don't want to pay his price.
Hey Sascha , dude I'm just having fun with this idiot. You know me forever. I miss the GFY drama sometimes.
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that's the only way to reply to such NAZI insults

"in your third world country"
"Your a fucking euro bottom feeder with no concept of production"
You're calling Sash a bottom feeder with no concept of production.??? First of all mr pavoratti , he's been a top male talent for as long as you been living in mommys house... which obvious is currently and he's been doing top level production forever also. You fucking cock holster.
He's produced more movies than you could ever dream of buying.
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You're calling Sash a bottom feeder with no concept of production.??? First of all mr pavoratti , he's been a top male talent for as long as you been living in mommys house... which obvious is currently and he's been doing top level production forever also. You fucking cock holster.
He's produced more movies than you could ever dream of buying.
Jeus Christ

I explained to Sasha why I say that "yes my fuhrer"

and I said thats the only reply to "your insults" . YOUR INSULTS

"in your third world country"
"Your a fucking euro bottom feeder with no concept of production"

that's the meaning of "",

are you into drugs or what?

what a fuck.
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why I didn't produce till now?
cause my idea is to have solid distribution channels before move into productions.
no much restrictions here in Czech Republic? if you think so.
not really easy to produce when all is closed, even locations you normally rent.
but that's not the issue,
issue is always that distributions channels went down during covid,
so why I should produce if distribution is almost blocked?
so I spent my time on fixing paysites, nats, elevatedx, campaigns, arrange some old content, seo softwares.

yeah. I do all that by myself, cause is very hard to find a programmer that know NATS,
or someone that ask less than 2.000 usd to make one single page.
so I did all myself.

and here is time for productions, same as for NATS, or elevatedx,
the porn world is full of people that say to be "super expert" but in reality they are not.

so its time to go back in production.
if I learnt to use NATS and elevatedx, shooting some pornos cannot be so difficult.

I will give some jobs to others when I will find the correct person, that know how to present himself, his job and be polite.

NATS supports is there, you do not need to program anything, likewise the same with elevated.

All you need to do for both, some HTML and CSS. And if you done the CSS for the site, well that is half the job done for the join pages, yeah granted, the responsive CSS is a royal pain in the arse, but once you crack it, you have a template from every other site you need to do.

But coding HTML and CSS is not really programming, programming is like accessing a multidirectional array for a guidance system in ADA, and the syntax for such things, or hey, remote method invocation in java or C# if you are not that old skool.

That is programming (at a basic level).

Like you, I am a one-man team, both production and website, and you always forget the booking and organising side of the job. There are just not enough hours in the day, then you have the piracy and account sharing on top. Dealing with arseholes that want refunds, or your billing processing completely letting people back on your site, that you have blocked for abuse.

You and I are not the only guys on this site and in the industry that do all this ourselves.
So, I know how hard it can be, and this year, yep, I am seeing more money outgoing and incoming.

2020 is about making sure you are here in 2021. It is December, my money is on another lockdown come January. I would strongly focus on content production from March 2021, at home here in the EU, and do it yourself and I would be open to working in partnership with you, if that is something you would be interested in.

But if not, that is cool with me.
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Jeus Christ

I explained to Sasha why I say that "yes my fuhrer"

and I said thats the only reply to "your insults" . YOUR INSULTS

"in your third world country"
"Your a fucking euro bottom feeder with no concept of production"

that's the meaning of "",

are you into drugs or what?

what a fuck.
Little boy your mothers calling... suppers ready. Does she know what you're doing in the basement on her computer with your cock in your hand. Ya know these days she can look up what you watch.
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she knows all.

looks like you should go more often to your mom to eat.

no more fast foods.
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NATS supports is there, you do not need to program anything, likewise the same with elevated.

All you need to do for both, some HTML and CSS. And if you done the CSS for the site, well that is half the job done for the join pages, yeah granted, the responsive CSS is a royal pain in the arse, but once you crack it, you have a template from every other site you need to do.

But coding HTML and CSS is not really programming, programming is like accessing a multidirectional array for a guidance system in ADA, and the syntax for such things, or hey, remote method invocation in java or C# if you are not that old skool.

That is programming (at a basic level).

Like you, I am a one-man team, both production and website, and you always forget the booking and organising side of the job. There are just not enough hours in the day, then you have the piracy and account sharing on top. Dealing with arseholes that want refunds, or your billing processing completely letting people back on your site, that you have blocked for abuse.

You and I are not the only guys on this site and in the industry that do all this ourselves.
So, I know how hard it can be, and this year, yep, I am seeing more money outgoing and incoming.

2020 is about making sure you are here in 2021. It is December, my money is on another lockdown come January. I would strongly focus on content production from March 2021, at home here in the EU, and do it yourself and I would be open to working in partnership with you, if that is something you would be interested in.

But if not, that is cool with me.
Paul.
NATS is not just coding, html and css.
most of the time is about setting, check that all is working,
than something new happen, and you start again, calling assistance and try to understand what happened.
it's very time consuming.


design a join page is real pain in the ass, consider the smarty php.

I found only few designer, that prepare an html5 page, then I should call a coder to integrate it to NATS code.
so, that's not really my idea of hire someone to make the NATS join page.

about elevatedx,
I didn't use their default templates, so I cannot really call them for assistance.
default templates have big seo issues
(yes, I did a course for seo specialist too)
so I called a programmer, to use a template I bought, and set that in a new way, to respect basic seo rules.
pluse some extra functions, like show video timing, etc.
then, I focused on site speed, for pagespeed insight
that huge mess,
my coder is doing a good job (about 2 months)
now site is fast, but I have to fix design again, cause to make clear code for speed, broken almost entire design.
but we are very close to a final solution.

I'm focusing on seo, and link building now, with elevatedx with correct seo setting, it works well

biller, I use epoch, I removed ccbill cause it was too slow for me, and too complex to setup new prices. probably I will set it back, for sepa payments only.
I will see if use bitcoins soon.
about refunds, with epoch just some issues.
with ccbill they did a wrong setting, so I had a lot of issues.

so, basically, I miss just exclusive content.

bought some equipments, just some extra lights and a crane 2s , and I should be ready soon.

I'm open to partnerships, or simply have a guest worker on set (payed)
there are different solutions.
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looks like you should go more often to your mom to eat.

no more fast foods.
Haven't had fast food in 5 years euro boy. I can go all day with you. GFY war vet here .
Still waiting to see your top line production. Or are you trying to buy some you can say you produced. LMAO !!!
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Haven't had fast food in 5 years euro boy. I can go all day with you. GFY war vet here .
Still waiting to see your top line production. Or are you trying to buy some you can say you produced. LMAO !!!
I will show you, don't worry. usd boy.
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I will show you, don't worry. usd boy.
Thats right BITCH ! U S fucking A

Where all the REAL traffic comes from. You fucking asshat mommas boy. Go rake the fucking leaves... take out the trash... mommas getting upset.
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you are very stupid.
you just know how to insult.
I leave you the last word, enjoy it.
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you are very stupid.
you just know how to insult.
I leave you the last word, enjoy it.
OK , you remind me of the little baby in the buggies commercial here on GFY...

LOOK AT ME IM A BIG KID NOW !

Just stay in Mommys basement and jerk off to my porn. Would you like a password ?
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thanks God you didn't ask to jerk off on YOU.
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I am in Prague and pay by day NOT by scene and get models for Euro 250 to 300 per day ( lesbian only). Never had problem finding models.
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thanks God you didn't ask to jerk off on YOU.
What happened to leaving me the last word SKIPPY

Um still waiting for samples of your high end production. Spoke with my buddy Sascha and he said you bought 1000 scenes from him. Maybe its his high end production you're talking about

MOMMYS Calling.. dinners ready.
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yes, I understood.

I'm trying to let this US guy calm down, but it looks like he has just 2 options:
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yes, I understood.

I'm trying to let this US guy calm down, but it looks like he has just 2 options:
receive money from me or insult me.
Just wanted to comment that some of the prices quoted by some are NOT based on reality or are not based on a good business savvy.

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I'm trying to let this US guy calm down, but it looks like he has just 2 options:
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Still waiting for your production samples..... I wouldn't shoot for you if my life depended on it , you couldn't afford me Tinkerbelle
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Just wanted to comment that some of the prices quoted by some are NOT based on reality or are not based on a good business savvy.

OH REALLY , prices I quoted pretty standard in Los Angeles. But since HELL BOY has never shot before and just buys content he's clueless.

Lets see you get a quote from Los Angeles based producers , post it here and who quoted it.
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