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Old 08-31-2023, 08:07 PM   #1
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Have you seen this Carlson interview with Viktor Orbán? If not, watch it and get back for discussion on his reasonable concerns.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...43892253466712
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Old 08-31-2023, 08:30 PM   #2
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It would seem pretty reckless for NATO members to have facilitated biggest strikes in Russia besides Estonia border , but then again destroying the Nord Stream pipelines seemed pretty reckless too. Perhaps Russia's lack of retaliation for Nord Stream emboldened whoever was involved with the attack on Pskov.
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Old 08-31-2023, 09:30 PM   #3
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Have you seen this Carlson interview with Viktor Orbán? If not, watch it and get back for discussion on his reasonable concerns.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...43892253466712
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Might be a Putin Pet.. oh wait.. yeh we already know you are or as Putin calls you "Useful Idiots"
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Old 08-31-2023, 09:47 PM   #4
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Might be a Putin Pet.. oh wait.. yeh we already know you are or as Putin calls you "Useful Idiots"
Safe to assume you didnt watch it?
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Old 09-01-2023, 12:02 AM   #5
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In spite of Russias dark history and complete and total lack of respect for human life, the entire world embraced Russia 100% when the Soviet Union collapsed.

Endless BILLIONS in investment poured in.

From everywhere.

ALL WESTERN COUNTRIES SUPPORTED RUSSIA AS THEY TRIED TO DEVELOP FROM A GANGSTER STATE INTO A FIRST WORLD ECONOMY.

Multinational corporations poured in.

The World Bank, The European Bank of Reconstruction and Development, The World Monetary Fund and every western financial institution on earth poured cash into Russia.

And Russians basically stole it and bought villas and yachts and planes... and they happily murdered anyone that got in the way of them doing so.

What the world failed to understand (I was actually there) is that the Soviet Union never collapsed.

The economy collapsed but their imperialistic ambitions., and "we are the center of the world and everything that is good" thinking and desire to lord over all the breakaway regions never changed.

When the Soviet Union collapsed and they started to have "elections".. most of the dozens of political parties were putting forth candidates that were high ranking military officers.

Russia has no enemies in the modern world that it doesn't create itself.

Russia is it's own worst enemy.

No cares about Russia.

The US or NATO does not threaten Russia.

Russia is the one attacking it's neighbor's.

Russia is the one who attacked and started 2 wars in Chechnya (twice).

Russia is the one who attacked and captured territory in Georgia.

Russia is the one who captured and controls territory in Moldova.

Russia is the one who who invaded Ukraine and took Crimea.

Russia is the one who launched a massive full scale war in Ukraine.

Russia is the one fighting in Syria for oil concessions.

The USA and NATO are to Russia what the USA is to North Korea... a fake boogeyman in the closet that "The Dear Leader" is protecting the peace loving population against.

Orban is a lunatic. I'm not going to watch him talk for 30 minutes about anything. But hats off to Tucker for showing the other side.

Russias simple problem is the thinking of anyone over 40. They miss the Soviet Union. They miss the supposed "respect" and "status" they believed that had as a nation. They miss the fact that they had a massive area al dependent on Moscow - The Baltic states, the Asian states, The Caucasus etc.

When these countries all broke away in 1990/91, Russians believed it to be the deepest form of betrayal. Never mind their open racism and the fact that they view all of these people as "less than"... they GENUINELY believe that they all only had schools and roads and hospitals because Moscow made it possible. In their minds, they are Rome, they are Romans and everyone else is an uneducated barbarian and a threat.

I have no thoughts on dictators talking about "threats" from the outside... and "threats" from "the West" when the West does nothing but throw money at these idiots.
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Russia could care less how many Ukrainians die. The generally believe they all should die. This is the shit that is on Russian TV all day every day.

They don't care how many apartment buildings, hospitals, schools, parks, playgrounds and markets they hit with cruise missiles. Their only regret is that they don't have enough missiles to hit them all.

They don't care how many of their own citizens they kill. It's just not a thought to them. 250,000 killed in Ukraine and counting. Russia is abducting on the order of 20k people per month, mostly migrant workers and sending them to die in Ukraine. They have to mobilize another 400-500k if they are to have any real hope of even holding any part of the line (whcih is already being irreversibly breached).

They don't care.

They support Putin.

They support the war.

They support any action that they believe makes them both feared and respected.

Human life means absolutely nothing to these people.

They cannot be negotiated with... anymore than colon cancer can be negotiated with.

Support is slowing for both Putin and the war... NOT because they are against war or because they're horrified at the carnage they've caused and that their soldiers are experiencing... but because they now feel it's making them look bad, less feared and less respected.
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Orban is a lunatic. I'm not going to watch him talk for 30 minutes about anything. But hats off to Tucker for showing the other side
You should watch...
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You should watch...
I've seen enough authoritarian ranting and raving and goofy talking points and idiotic propaganda to last me a lifetime. I'm good. ;)
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