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porno jew 09-30-2011 11:10 AM

Ron Paul Supports al-Qaida Leader
 
calls his death an "assassination."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-30-10-34-45

ron paul 2012.

ReGGs 09-30-2011 11:33 AM

I'm not a huge ron paul fan but he does have an extremely valid point. If the guy was an American citizen and this was an extrajudicial assassination it sets a precedent that everyone should be extremely concerned about.

TLDR: Our government just killed a citizen without trial.

DarkJedi 09-30-2011 11:38 AM

- Ron Paul Supports al-Qaida Leader
- calls his death an "assassination."

FAIL LOGIC MUCH ?

Adult Insider Dave 09-30-2011 11:40 AM

He doesn't support them, his point was that the President should not have the power to assassinate people, especially American citizen. Where do you draw the line is what he is asking us.

ReGGs 09-30-2011 11:48 AM

I saw a good question posed to republicans and democrats alike.

How would you like it if Hilary Clinton or Sarah Palin was able to spy without warrant and then kill you without a trial based upon nothing more than an accusation made by the government?

sperbonzo 09-30-2011 11:50 AM

He was right. He was executed without trial and he is an American citizen. He should have been captured and brought to trial. Non US citizens are a different story IMHO

mayabong 09-30-2011 12:26 PM

Looks like the pentagon really liked this guy. No conspiracy here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...tember-11.html

IllTestYourGirls 09-30-2011 12:28 PM

Yeah Ron Paul is crazy. I think any president should be able to kill any citizen he feels like.

porno jew 09-30-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 18461384)
Looks like the pentagon really liked this guy. No conspiracy here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...tember-11.html

interesting. ron paul is supporting a black ops false flag operative. guess we know who ron paul is working for.

mayabong 09-30-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18461394)
interesting. ron paul is supporting a black ops false flag operative. guess we know who ron paul is working for.

Have you seen any proof this guy was killed? have you seen any proof that he's the real leader of the so called alqaeda? Have you ever seen any proof whatsoever that OBL was killed?

Why parrot things when you have no proof whatsoever. I realize your name is porno jew and you probably support israel which is why you probably hate ron paul. :thumbsup

EDIT TO ADD:

I'm also supposed to believe that the American Alqaeda who's leader is Adam Pearlman who's grandfather worked for the ADL is really a extremist muslim? rofl

porno jew 09-30-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 18461398)
Have you seen any proof this guy was killed? have you seen any proof that he's the real leader of the so called alqaeda? Have you ever seen any proof whatsoever that OBL was killed?

Why parrot things when you have no proof whatsoever. I realize your name is porno jew and you probably support israel which is why you probably hate ron paul. :thumbsup

interesting as ron paul gets caught supporting a flase flag covert operative to justify that you say "he doesn't exist". funny how denial works in the ron paul supporters brains.

IllTestYourGirls 09-30-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18461400)
interesting as ron paul gets caught supporting a flase flag covert operative to justify that you say "he doesn't exist". funny how denial works in the ron paul supporters brains.

First off, Ron Paul does not "support" the guy. Ron Paul thinks US citizens are protected by the Constitution and should get a trial. Is he wrong?

_Richard_ 09-30-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18461244)
calls his death an "assassination."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-30-10-34-45

ron paul 2012.

bit early for a witch hunt eh?

assassination has been big for awhile.. that's a slippery slope

_Richard_ 09-30-2011 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReGGs (Post 18461304)
I saw a good question posed to republicans and democrats alike.

How would you like it if Hilary Clinton or Sarah Palin was able to spy without warrant and then kill you without a trial based upon nothing more than an accusation made by the government?

first they came for..

mayabong 09-30-2011 12:45 PM

Be very afraid of Al Qaeda especially the ones that are in america.


porno jew 09-30-2011 12:47 PM

RP is a NWO sleeper agent. spread the truth.

Rochard 09-30-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReGGs (Post 18461280)
I'm not a huge ron paul fan but he does have an extremely valid point.

It really is a valid point.

While I could care less - for me one terrorist is no different from another - the truth is the United States intentionally targeted and killed an United States citizen without any due process.

However, I don't believe American law applies here. American laws do not apply to the American military when in a combat zone - the Uniform Code Of Military Justice does. And while the UCMJ does have laws about "murder", it's a little bit murky - they were under orders to kill a member of al qaeda, no matter what his nationality was.

TheDoc 09-30-2011 01:48 PM

So when a criminal in America is shooting others and we can't get to them directly, does the sniper or someone kill them? Yep!

Oh wait, what about the trial? Ohhhhhh now it's not bad.

Ron Paul says some stupid shit sometimes.

Matt 26z 09-30-2011 01:58 PM

By Ron Paul's logic, the north shouldn't have killed any confederates during the civil war since they were fellow Americans.

There comes a time when people cross a line and the country is forced to turn on them. Joining al-Qaeda crosses that line.


Ron Paul is in crash & burn mode. This comes shortly after that event where the debate audience called for the uninsured to die and Ron Paul seemed to agree. Ron Paul is one of those presidential candidates who runs as a publicity stunt.

Lucy - CSC 09-30-2011 02:04 PM

Obamas policies I thought would be a Neo Con dream. Assassinations of muslim cleric. Stuff Dick Cheney masturbates to.

Obama = Change. Fucking joke of the century. Shame it has cost tens of thousands of people their lives.

TheDoc 09-30-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18461593)
Obamas policies I thought would be a Neo Con dream. Assassinations of muslim cleric. Stuff Dick Cheney masturbates to.

Obama = Change. Fucking joke of the century. Shame it has cost tens of thousands of people their lives.

Change? This is what he said he would do.

He campaigned on moving the focus of the troops from Iraq to Afghan, and he did and said he would confront terrorism on any front, and he is.

raymor 09-30-2011 02:16 PM

I haven't paid attention to the coverage of that, but:

as·sas·si·nate
verb (used with object), -nat·ed, -nat·ing.
1.
to kill suddenly or secretively, especially a politically prominent person; murder premeditatedly and treacherously.


Was al-Awlaki not a politically prominent person killed suddenly and secretly?

Barry-xlovecam 09-30-2011 02:53 PM

Saves the expense of a trial for a traitor to his country.

Quote:

"Fighting the devil doesn't require consultation or prayers seeking divine guidance. They are the party of the devils.

"Fighting them is what is called for at this time. We have reached a point where it is either us or them.

"We are two opposites that will never come together. What they want can only be accomplished by our elimination. Therefore this is a defining battle." ... Anwar al-Awlaki.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15124351
[W]e have reached a point where it is either us or them. ... You lose

Rochard 09-30-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18461642)
BUT he was also a US Citizen that was not afforded his due process.

But an American in a foreign country isn't guaranteed any rights at all. American law doesn't come in to play, nor does any of his "American rights".

mountainmiester 09-30-2011 03:22 PM

In part, I agree with Ron Paul however, there is a way we could have done this better. Revoke his citizenship, then blow his ass out of existence.

TheDoc 09-30-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18461642)
I am not an RP supporter and this Samir guy was certainly supporting/promoting terrorists. BUT he was also a US Citizen that was not afforded his due process. This kind of action gives the US gov more power and proves being a US citizen and your rights mean nothing.

It won't be long before you see the Government trample all over your rights on a mere suspicion or a manufactured one. You NEVER trade your liberty for security.

I bet your would be crying a different story if a gunman came into your house and took your family hostage.

I bet you would be like, fuck this due process shit... kill the bastard.

I guess it's different when it's not your family, eh?

Rochard 09-30-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18461781)
Yes, they do. If you are an American and commit a crime, like child molestation, bank robbery, or any felony in foreign country, you could be subjected to the same penalties as if you were here.

No, not at all.

If "Bob" is an American, goes to France, and robs a bank, he is subject to French law - Not US law. He is not protected by US law. He goes to trial in France, under French law, and serves time in a French prison. He cannot be extradited to the US to be charged; He did not break United States laws.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18461781)
Here's a better understanding. If you went to a country where the age of consent is 14 and had sex, then came back to the US, you could be prosecuted for a sex crime, but you'd still get your due process. My point.

Wrong. You could be charged with "intention to cross the border with the intention of committing a sex crime".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18461781)
Meaning, if you're a US citizen and commit any crime according to US law, even if it's legal there, you can be prosecuted in the US for it. The CIA ignored this and killed a US citizen without due process.

No, not at all. If it's legal for me to eat Shark meat in Japan, I cannot be arrested when I return to the US. US Law does not apply in Japan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18461781)
What you should be really concerned about is the true double standard we have in this country. Many American born Jews have gone to Israel and served in the IDF and committed crimes against Palestinians. You never hear of them getting blown up by drones do you?

Again, American law does not apply to Americans in other countries. In other words, I can go and join the French Foreign Legion, and go to war some place in Africa, and American law does not apply.

An American born Palestinian can go to Israel, kill whomever he wanted, and American law would not apply.

TheSquealer 09-30-2011 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18461642)
I am not an RP supporter and this Samir guy was certainly supporting/promoting terrorists. BUT he was also a US Citizen that was not afforded his due process. This kind of action gives the US gov more power and proves being a US citizen and your rights mean nothing.

Hey Man!!!

Obama practiced and lectures on Constitutional Law. I'm sure he know's what he's doing.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

jesse_adultdatingdollars 09-30-2011 05:42 PM

This guy was openly plotting to use poison gas to kill Americans. God Bless The USA. I love how we are getting down on these terrorists. They are falling like dominoes.

raymor 09-30-2011 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 18461996)
This guy was openly plotting to use poison gas to kill Americans. God Bless The USA. I love how we are getting down on these terrorists. They are falling like dominoes.

Which just might make it okay to assassinate him. When someone is waging war against you, a bullet through the head might be the right answer.

Funny, though, wasn't there a presidential candidate who campaigned on the promise of closing Guantanamo and bringing the terrorists here, trying them in civilian court, and giving them full rights as though they were citizens? Barak somebody I think it was? That's one broken promise that may be good for the country.

GatorB 09-30-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18461244)
calls his death an "assassination."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-30-10-34-45

ron paul 2012.

It was an assassination. To think otherwise is being retarded.

GatorB 09-30-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReGGs (Post 18461304)
I saw a good question posed to republicans and democrats alike.

How would you like it if Hilary Clinton or Sarah Palin was able to spy without warrant and then kill you without a trial based upon nothing more than an accusation made by the government?

if I was going on TV saying "I will kill Hillary Clinton" then yeah I should be smart enough to know she might get all PMSee about that and try to kill me.

PornMD 09-30-2011 07:40 PM

I find it interesting that any republicans would be crying foul about this. If one was president and ordered this, you know exactly what would be said. "He's a patriot defending the country - a democrat president wouldn't have had the balls to do it and would want to give the monster a trial." Such an odd role reversal here.

I realize Ron Paul isn't typical republican but still.

Relentless 09-30-2011 07:59 PM

You might trust Obama with the power to assassinate American citizens... How would you feel if Michelle Bachman got elected and claimed to have that authority?
Ron Paul is absolutely right about this.

Rochard 09-30-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18462159)
You might trust Obama with the power to assassinate American citizens... How would you feel if Michelle Bachman got elected and claimed to have that authority?
Ron Paul is absolutely right about this.

This so called American was in a foreign country leading their recruiting drive. He had pretty much joined an enemy force and had openly declared war on the US.

Don't care if it was Bush, Obama, Backman, or even fucking Palin. So long as they are in the Oval Office, so be it.

VikingMan 09-30-2011 08:55 PM

Another fake death of yet another fake Al Qaida spokesperson. These guys are actors/CIA assets. This is just plain cartoonish.

Relentless 09-30-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18462200)
This so called American was in a foreign country leading their recruiting drive. He had pretty much joined an enemy force and had openly declared war on the US.
Don't care if it was Bush, Obama, Backman, or even fucking Palin. So long as they are in the Oval Office, so be it.

He is not a 'so called' Ameican. He is an ACTUAL American.
Nobody doubts his US Citizenship.

He is alleged to have been a bad person. There allegedly is evidence he was a bad person.
Nobody has seen that evidence. He was not given due process to refute any of that evidence.

If the police are 100% sure you killed children... They must arrest you and put you on trial.
They can not 'just shoot you' no matter how sure they are...because your citizenship guarantees you due process.

This incident erodes YOUR rights and quietly confers the right to kill you without any due process on anyone in the white house who claims to have secret evidence against you.

That precedent is much more dangerous than ANY terrorist will ever be...

Ronzo 09-30-2011 09:07 PM

Ron Paul is full of shit, and lacks common sense. He's hung up on the US Constitution... a document written 200 years ago by a group of people who had their shit together, but who had no way of foreseeing how the world would change. It's like people who try to interpret the Bible for insight and moral guidance in how to live their lives. It doesn't work for the times.

For Ron Paul. it would be better to put US boots on the ground to capture this terrorist flake and have US Special Ops guys risk their lives to get him live. Then, bring him back so more halfwits could argue about where and how he should be tried.

This clown was only marginally a US citizen... he was first and foremost a Yemeni terrorist hellbent on killing Americans so he could fuck virgins when he met his god. Let's see... Ron Paul wants to grant rights to terrorists on foreign soil, unnecessarily risk American soldiers and give Iran the opportunity to play with nukes. What a novel way of keeping America safe. This should knock him out of the running for the GOP nomination and deservedly so.

mayabong 09-30-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ******* (Post 18462205)
Another fake death of yet another fake Al Qaida spokesperson. These guys are actors/CIA assets. This is just plain cartoonish.

At least one person gets it here.

As posted above, this guy dined at the pentagon after 911 and noone seems to really put 2 and 2 together.

VikingMan 09-30-2011 09:37 PM

Your masters love this, they now know that they can murder an American citizen and 90% of you will rationalize it as being ok. Next time it will be a "real American" and the same turds will rationalize it as being ok. Of course they already knew they could get away with it since they murdered children in Waco in the early 90's and the turds rationalized it was ok because the the victims were part of a "cult". And they did in fact murder all those children because there was video going around on VHS that clearly showed a tank with flame thrower blasting the Branch Davidian compount. Of course the controlled mainstream media did not show that video so the turds just ignored it.


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