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iwantchixx 06-21-2011 03:48 PM

Want people to promote your sites? Affiliate programs READ this as I'm getting PISSEDDDDD
 
In my quests within this past month I have wasted SOOO much time signing up to new programs, collecting links and content that these are issues that pretty much made me skip using many of them.

1. Review process. I don't have time to sit and put my multiple site builds on ice for 2 days while you approve me. Sorry, I'm going to close the window and find something else to fill that space. It's better to kick someone for misuse than deter people using your sites in a campaign altogether.

2. Email webmaster for content and hosted galleries. Again, don't have time to wait for you to send me an email back after many days. I'll use another program to fill the space.

3. No webmaster page. Many CCbill sites are guilty of this. They have a signup page but nothing except a welcome email from ccbill with no info on where to get content/galleries/link codes. Sign into CCBill and find a single banner with a single link code in the admin panel. Unhelpful.

4. 1000 hosted galleries in a delimited text view with no way to view each one aside from having to copy&paste every single one of them to pick out 10 that I am needing to use.

5. Using ONLY paxum and wires to pay affiliates. What????? Seriously.. you are NOT getting my banking information NOR am I trusting another fly-by-night organization that mimicks epass.

6. MANY MANY MANY Voyeur sites with kids in their tour.. Uhm... I don't care what defines nudism against porn but where I come from pushing anything with naked kids will land me in jail.

I'm not trying to bitch and moan but after spending this past 2 hours looking through about 15 new sponsors I have found ONE that was able to provide hosted galleries that I can view after signing up. That two hours could have better been spent jerking off to a bucket of paint or building a complete site with content in it. :mad:

Agent 488 06-21-2011 03:52 PM

it's depressing going through a list of programs when starting a new project. most of them are garbage or abandoned. hell a large part of them you can even sign up or login and when you do there is literally nothing in the affiliates area, not even a link code.

INever 06-21-2011 03:58 PM

I have a good program.

Sly 06-21-2011 04:05 PM

ICQ please.

Rochard 06-21-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 18231333)
1. Review process. I don't have time to sit and put my multiple site builds on ice for 2 days while you approve me. Sorry, I'm going to close the window and find something else to fill that space. It's better to kick someone for misuse than deter people using your sites in a campaign altogether.

I hate this too. I'm signing up to a program because I want to put them up RIGHT NOW, not the next day.

I signed up for one company - no names mentioned - and sent in multiple emails and heard nothing. Four months later suddenly I'm approved. Very odd.

Nicky 06-21-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18231461)
I signed up for one company - no names mentioned - and sent in multiple emails and heard nothing. Four months later suddenly I'm approved. Very odd.

Sry, was at the bathroom :winkwink:

iwantchixx 06-21-2011 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18231461)
I hate this too. I'm signing up to a program because I want to put them up RIGHT NOW, not the next day.

I signed up for one company - no names mentioned - and sent in multiple emails and heard nothing. Four months later suddenly I'm approved. Very odd.

yeah i wont name names either but I JUST finished up signing up to one. it said I have to email them a link showing that i own the domain I will use. No problem. it says I can sitll access everything in the meantime.

I took a screenshot of the admin interface showing I am administrator of the domain and emialed it to them. Then they send an email after signing up that states I have to post somethng about their site on my domain before they will approve it. Whatever.. the one I sent will do or I just wont use them. So I try to log in to see what they have.. account does not exist.

FFS.

Im shutting everything down and calling it a day. barely anything accomplished today.

jimmy-3-way 06-21-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 18231333)
4. 1000 hosted galleries in a delimited text view with no way to view each one aside from having to copy&paste every single one of them to pick out 10 that I am needing to use.

firefox, right click, open in new tab.

iwantchixx 06-21-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 18231504)
firefox, right click, open in new tab.

Middle clicking is supposed to do the same.

Problem is they don't hyperlink the galleries.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-21-2011 04:56 PM

Well I will put my hat in the ring.

COnsider sending to SDACASH, I am always about, I keep no affiliate waiting, I set up custom ad's if needed and content. I am up and running nearly 14 hours a day and available anytime.

Straight up CCBILL program and has some hosted galleries and banners. What you need that you do not see I can make for you within a short period of time custom.

No Bullshit.:)

waltgator 06-21-2011 06:43 PM

good stuff to read, we are starting out & after many years in the production side we noticed that the affiliate side wasnt being treated properly..hope that changes and hope we can help as well....
Cheers,
Walt

bigluv 06-21-2011 06:53 PM

No proper contact information on the site is good for a laugh.
Having to come here and search the forums for an ICQ that's active ...

Vjo 06-21-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 18231333)

1. Review process. I don't have time to sit and put my multiple site builds on ice for 2 days while you approve me. Sorry, I'm going to close the window and find something else to fill that space. It's better to kick someone for misuse than deter people using your sites in a campaign altogether.

That is the sign of a loser prog almost always.

The winners know it is way more important to get you promoting.

They are already fucking you up and sucking up your time the second you find out you need to be approved.

Typically these are NOT old school pros but rather new school lamers.

sicone 06-21-2011 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18231749)
That is the sign of a loser prog almost always.

The winners know it is way more important to get you promoting.

They are already fucking you up and sucking up your time the second you find out you need to be approved.

Typically these are NOT old school pros but rather new school lamers.

With the amount of affiliate fraud these days, it seems that more companies are moving to the practice of approving affiliates. I do agree that it sucks ass when it takes days for them to get back to you.

Peter Romero 06-21-2011 07:15 PM

My sign up process is imediate and so is your linking codes! See sig! I live on this gawd damn machine and I'll get you anything you need including a free pass to all my sites. See sig.

Vjo 06-21-2011 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18231761)
With the amount of affiliate fraud these days, it seems that more companies are moving to the practice of approving affiliates. I do agree that it sucks ass when it takes days for them to get back to you.

True but they can always can ya :)

I dont really mind approval that bad. But as I look back most of my best payers never approved me. And I remember a couple real stinkers who had to approve me.

So not real scientific just my experience. :)

iwantchixx 06-21-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 18231764)
My sign up process is imediate and so is your linking codes! See sig! I live on this gawd damn machine and I'll get you anything you need including a free pass to all my sites. See sig.

Thanks, there's a few in there I can use actually. Looks like I'm already signed up n forgot lol Quite a few things I can use in there actually. Adding many to the list right now. I'm falling in love with one of the girls in a gallery right now actually and forgot to finish this post lol. I'd love a pass to see more of "passion" mmhmm

Konda 06-21-2011 08:11 PM

I rather use an affiliate program that has a strict review/approval process than one that just accepts everyone. By just accepting anyone they risk a lot of fraud and carding, which is a huge risk to the other (honest) affiliates in their program, because it can end up with the program losing their merchant account/processing + huge fines, which can result in the program not paying the affiliates and closing it's doors. It happend many times in the past years.

Adam_M 06-21-2011 08:13 PM

Sent out around 80 emails to sponsors in the last week, to this point 4 replies!

Peter Romero 06-21-2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 18231822)
Thanks, there's a few in there I can use actually. Looks like I'm already signed up n forgot lol Quite a few things I can use in there actually. Adding many to the list right now. I'm falling in love with one of the girls in a gallery right now actually and forgot to finish this post lol. I'd love a pass to see more of "passion" mmhmm

She was one of about 200 "Only-timers" on my sites. Hit me up on ICQ and I'll give you a pass. Toodles!

DirtyDanza 06-21-2011 08:19 PM

were instant on approving affiliates as well.. plus we give you a choice on how you get paid...

everything you ask for we have...


check the sig and feel free to contact me on skype for anything you need....

sicone 06-21-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_M (Post 18231837)
Sent out around 80 emails to sponsors in the last week, to this point 4 replies!

This is what annoys me the most. Specially since more often then not it's just something quick that I need or have a question on.

glowlite 06-21-2011 09:00 PM

Auto approvals are a good reason to bypass a program IMO.
To approve any/all affiliate requests willy-nilly instantly says much about the programs biz model. Why would you allow immediate download access to millions of dollars worth of content? Must not have much value.
:2 cents:

tonyparra 06-21-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 18231333)

1. Review process. I don't have time to sit and put my multiple site builds on ice for 2 days while you approve me. Sorry, I'm going to close the window and find something else to fill that space. It's better to kick someone for misuse than deter people using your sites in a campaign altogether.


3. No webmaster page. Many CCbill sites are guilty of this. They have a signup page but nothing except a welcome email from ccbill with no info on where to get content/galleries/link codes. Sign into CCBill and find a single banner with a single link code in the admin panel. Unhelpful.



5. Using ONLY paxum and wires to pay affiliates. What????? Seriously.. you are NOT getting my banking information NOR am I trusting another fly-by-night organization that mimicks epass.


I'm not trying to bitch and moan but after spending this past 2 hours looking through about 15 new sponsors I have found ONE that was able to provide hosted galleries that I can view after signing up. That two hours could have better been spent jerking off to a bucket of paint or building a complete site with content in it. :mad:

I agree with all these sir. A while ago someone posted why was i signed up to so many programs and not sending hardly any of them traffic? There were alot of theories kicked around but your gripes about sum it up...I get approval emails sometimes up to a week after i signed up...a week! And alot of nats programs dont tell you what tools they offer so you got to signup up only to find crap on the other end. Sponsors at the end of the day are just guys trying to make some money like us, but many dont take their business seriously.

Im too young to wait man i got ADD if you make me wait im gone! :winkwink:

jimmy-3-way 06-21-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 18231515)
Middle clicking is supposed to do the same.

Problem is they don't hyperlink the galleries.

Firefox opens non hyperlinked links.

Barry-xlovecam 06-21-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glowlite (Post 18231890)
Auto approvals are a good reason to bypass a program IMO.
To approve any/all affiliate requests willy-nilly instantly says much about the programs biz model. Why would you allow immediate download access to millions of dollars worth of content? Must not have much value.
:2 cents:

We manually approve all legit adult webmasters within 2 business days. I know it might be inconvenient but we get porn surfer sign ups and various suspicious sign-ups. Sorry but that is the way it is ...

DennisK 06-22-2011 12:09 AM

I read your post and I don't see a problem for anything you described with Payserve. We have people almost 20 hours a day online to approve accounts. So when you subscribe you can get your galleries instantly :thumbsup

Nicky 06-22-2011 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisK (Post 18232098)
I read your post and I don't see a problem for anything you described with Payserve. We have people almost 20 hours a day online to approve accounts. So when you subscribe you can get your galleries instantly :thumbsup

Same here. The approval process shouldn't take more than a couple of hours max and maybe half a day at most during the week-end. Usually everyone gets approved within minutes.

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scouser 06-22-2011 03:28 AM

ccbill sites that require you to have their own login system (sometimes with ccbill id + email or some other username) and all they provide is the same as 99% of other sites (eg the 'cookie me' form, then it cookies you - don't even remember your ccbill id) - its fucking annoying cos its never clear what your login details are. and 5 months later unless its a saved pw no chance of working it out cos their forgot password system normally doesn't work.

ones like otcash (can save what galleries you've used/add comments to galleries) and spunkycash (dont need to login to grab urls, content) are ok though.

wehateporn 06-22-2011 03:47 AM

iwantchixx, good post there! I've had similar thoughts. If I sign up I'm normally ready to do a blog update then and there, if I can't get access, I go elsewhere, sometimes I return and sometimes I don't

DWB 06-22-2011 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18232284)
If I sign up I'm normally ready to do a blog update then and there, if I can't get access, I go elsewhere, sometimes I return and sometimes I don't

It goes both ways.

How about... instant approval so those with ADD don't have to wait more than a minute for approval. But, when affiliates don't return an email from the company (within the same amount of time you want for approval) when they are trying to reach you on the email you provided, they terminate your account and keep your funds. Fair?

:upsidedow

wehateporn 06-22-2011 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18232296)
It goes both ways.

How about... instant approval so those with ADD don't have to wait more than a minute for approval. But, when affiliates don't return an email from the company (within the same amount of time you want for approval) when they are trying to reach you on the email you provided, they terminate your account and keep your funds. Fair?

:upsidedow

For a program to boost their number of active affiliates they should approve quickly. On the long run they will have more active affiliates and make more money.

The amount of time to arrange for payment is unrelated, but it is fair that there be a time limit, just like there is with cashing a cheque.

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this aint no 2001, you can't ask for anything, you'd be lucky get your money for sales you made with most programs now a days

DWB 06-22-2011 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18232306)
For a program to boost their number of active affiliates they should approve quickly. On the long run they will have more active affiliates and make more money.

The amount of time to arrange for payment is unrelated, but it is fair that there be a time limit, just like there is with cashing a cheque.

I see you have a ccbill program in your sig, which means that affiliates are approved instantly. But have you ever went through and checked out the people signing up, clicking on the site they list and try to see what they have and who they are? Ever tried to contact them directly for more info, like what site they may be sending traffic from?

I do (if I don't know them already). And while I don't have an accurate number, I can say that in my experience MANY of them list a BS site or something that has nothing to do with anything or where they may send traffic from. So I send them a friendly email asking what site(s)s they may be sending traffic from. Maybe 10% even bother reply. Some mails even bounce. What am I to think about all the others?

So when I see things like this, I don't question for a second why some programs take longer than others to approve affiliates. I understand people who to sign up and promote a sign right now, but a responsible program has to do their due diligence these days or run the risk of have fraudulent accounts.

Affiliates want it now, I understand that, but you should also want the program to be doing its best to make sure it will continue to be there and be able to pay you.

Shey 06-22-2011 04:45 AM

A lot of programs have started adopting some sort of signup process. These days you have to make sure you are working with legit affiliates. However, that doesn't excuse lack of support or delayed support.

iwantchixx 06-22-2011 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18231528)
Well I will put my hat in the ring.

COnsider sending to SDACASH, I am always about, I keep no affiliate waiting, I set up custom ad's if needed and content. I am up and running nearly 14 hours a day and available anytime.

Straight up CCBILL program and has some hosted galleries and banners. What you need that you do not see I can make for you within a short period of time custom.

No Bullshit.:)

Added some of your stuff to the list. Thanks.

iwantchixx 06-22-2011 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18232330)
I see you have a ccbill program in your sig, which means that affiliates are approved instantly. But have you ever went through and checked out the people signing up, clicking on the site they list and try to see what they have and who they are? Ever tried to contact them directly for more info, like what site they may be sending traffic from?

I do (if I don't know them already). And while I don't have an accurate number, I can say that in my experience MANY of them list a BS site or something that has nothing to do with anything or where they may send traffic from. So I send them a friendly email asking what site(s)s they may be sending traffic from. Maybe 10% even bother reply. Some mails even bounce. What am I to think about all the others?

So when I see things like this, I don't question for a second why some programs take longer than others to approve affiliates. I understand people who to sign up and promote a sign right now, but a responsible program has to do their due diligence these days or run the risk of have fraudulent accounts.

Affiliates want it now, I understand that, but you should also want the program to be doing its best to make sure it will continue to be there and be able to pay you.

it does make sense why they do it, but it's the wait period that's bothersome and disruptive to any schedule set for work. Chances are I will forget the program even exists by the time I need to use the niche again.


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