The New Macbook Pros Are A Rip Off!!!
 

The new MacBook Pro starting at $2000 have no dedicated video memory!!! Can you fucking believe that? Actually all the new models have no dedicated video memory just the $2500 model it's the only one!

You can buy a $300 PC with 512 and they have PCs with over a gig starting at $500.

Last years Macs all had at least 512 dedicated now only one has and it's almost 3 thousand dollars after taxes wtf!!!

Don't but it then :)

But plenty will. For sure.

All I know is I have made cash with my PC for years and I'm not about the switch it for no fucking mac lol

Oh my, this should be a fun day.

Apple hardware is always a rip off. That's what happens when you have a horde of users who just buy to buy, not really knowing or caring what they are spending their money on.

What allot of people don't realize Mac is a Linux based operating system making it appear faster than a PC. You can install Linux Ubuntu on a PC and get the same results for free!

Went to get my 3 year old (boosted) Mac Book Pro fixed... again. This time I was told it was vintage and it would cost me as much as getting a new one... so I should be spending 3500$ every 3 years?

You don't understand. You should be honored that they allow you to overspend on their hardware. It's their software that you are paying for. Duh!

that lack of fucntionality is offset by rounded corners. can't have all the apple hi-tech in 1 product

You get what you pay for.
Except with Apple where you get less.

I was so happy with my Quad core G5 that I probably would buy another mac, it lasted about 6 years then the processor died and it just wasn't worth fixing. PCs are better price Vs quality, but a mac is a dream to use :)

don't worry tho. apple don't break.

You dun goofed.


Read http://www.apple.com/ca/macbook-pro/specs-retina/


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For the $2600 version.

apple products are just a wealthier class of products, sadly

Plenty of fool will buy that shit!

Unix, not Linux. Your point is more or less the same but there's a pretty big difference between Unix and Linux.

Mac haters crack me up :1orglaugh

You're right. The 13" Macbook Pro includes the Intel Iris Graphics, while the 15" comes with Intel Iris PRO Graphics.

The 13" Macbook with Intel Iris Graphics DOES come with dedicated video memory. According to http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4776...mid-range-gpus its 128MB of embedded memory is supposed to equal the performance of the Nvidia GeForce GT 650MB card.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/....html#viewmore

According to CNET

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...h-macbook-pro/


I think they are the actual 'fanboys'.

The Mac hardware is irrelevant. The components are all made by the same manufacturers that make PC parts.

Motherboards: Apple specific (Same way HP motherboards are) but last time i checked, made by FoxConn, who also makes PC motherboards. Same capacitors and components.
CPUs: Intel - Same exact CPU's found in Macs are found in PCs (or servers if using Xeon).
GPU: Intel/Nvidia/ATI - Same as above.
Ram - Same as above.
HDD/SSD -Same as above.

The only actual difference between PC hardware and Mac hardware is the firmware in some cases. Otherwise, it's exactly the same. There isn't some "special" bin of components, capacitors, or other parts that are only available to Mac.

I spent about $1,200 when i bought this system:
Gigabyte GA-Z77N-WIFI
Intel core i7 3770k - oh look, I can overclock. Macs can't.
Gainward Nvidia Geforce GTX 660 Ti Phantom
16GB DDR3
3x SSD's, 1 platter HDD
Bitfenix Prodigy Case, Black.

Clover UEFI Bootloader, my Hack works like a real Mac. Including the recovery partition, restoring from Time Machine, iCloud, Find My Mac, etc. Updates without breaking anything whatsoever.
Full CPU power management, speed step, etc.
Full GPU power management and performance.

There are a whole 5 steps that need to be taken to get it up and running fully.

1. Install OS X, obviously.
2. Install Clover UEFI Bootloader.
3. Extract DSDT and patch it with motherboard specific patches, made by people greater than me heh.
4. Generate a SSDT for speed stepping using script made by people greater than me.
5. Inject RealtekRTL81xx.kext and FakeSMC.kext and patch AppleHDA.kext at boot time. No kexts installed to S/L/E, so nothing broken after updates.

5 steps and what, an hour or so of setup time? I'll take that and the $1,500-2,000 I saved any day of the week.

As I said in another thread talking about Macs, it takes me less time to install OS X than it does to install any flavor of Windows.

I can also setup and install OS X to raid (0 or 1), fusion, etc., just like Macs can. In fact, the only thing I can't do is take it to Apple when something goes wrong. Which, being that I know exactly what is in my system and how it works, I would never need to anyway. If something dies and is no longer under warranty, I can simply replace it. I can also upgrade at will. Good luck replacing or upgrading anything in that new Diaper Genie Pro.


Oh and before anyone says the highest Mac Pro is better than my system because of the dual CPUs... I had a dual Xeon system before this one identical to the Mac Pro dual Xeon, and while it certainly had more processing capacity, it loses in actual processing power for most things.

As far as the operating system war goes, that I'll leave to the end user. Use what works best for you. OS X simply works best for my needs because it gives me everything I need - for the most part - from windows as well as Linux. Sure, I could install windows then run linux in a VM, which i used to do, but why bother when I get the best of both world from OS X.


Last but not least, for those who want to build their own Hack Pro but don't know where to start: http://www.tonymacx86.com/393-buildi...ober-2013.html

and what all the linux fans seem to forget its bsd/unix based no Linux in a mac

It's very simple folks...

If you have some money and need a new computer, shop around. If you think that Macbook Pro's are too expensive but that a Macbook might do, go to an Apple store and test it for yourself.

Do you automatically by the car that has the biggest engine? Of course not. Apply the same thinking to buying your computer which is:

- Does it do what I want?
- Is it fast enough?
- If its a laptop, is the battery life long enough?
- Will I get good, fast, accurate customer support? (With only 1 phone call?)
- If its a laptop, is it light enough? Does it feel solid enough?
- Etc etc etc...

If you take everything above into account, no matter what computer you buy, it will be "The right one for you".

Personally, I don't edit video on my Macbook so I don't need a bazillion core cpu. I'm happy with the 9 second boot-up speed :) I use it for email and web surfing and site design and customer support and Skype, music, movies, FTP, etc. It's more than fast enough and the batteries last over 9 hours of real world use. It's the "right computer for me".

Training new tech support agents at Apple that weren't Mac users was so fucking annoying. I'm having flashbacks... :2 cents::Oh crap

What else would expect from Apple? Fuck them and their generic appliance fail computers.

I always wonder about a bunch of adult forum guys sucking 'mac cock' when mac is anti adult.. . not really sure I would support anything trying to my take the food off my table :2 cents:

off course, who wouldn't? :1orglaugh

Macs are more expensive.
Macs products are better quality, better designed and better os than any other computer company I can think of.

They set design standards (which is not just making things look pretty) in the computrr imdustry and as such they are "cool" and the highest end of the market so with all that they chsrge a premium.

I have over 20 work stations and for all my main one I buy all refurb or 2nd hand mac and I pay less than buying an asus or another bloated window machine and I'm VERY happy that way.

For work that requires something cheap I buy cheap pcs.

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:1orglaugh me too!

They're happy to pay more money for a nice shiny sports car or luxury car because they want a certain experience when they drive.....but if you pay more for a computer because you want a certain experience when you compute - you must be a complete dumbass :anon

Fuck the haters....and whiners....that's what I say :thumbsup

How the fuck are you supposed to use that as a door stop when it breaks? It will just roll away.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just out of curiosity, what can a mac do that a PC can't. I have looked at macs and I can seem to see any real upside or how they will make my life easier or more productive.

On a serious note, is there any real purpose to the canister shape? Does it help with cooling at all? May allow for more surface area for better natural cooling?

Is there any PC laptop that can compete with the retina display?

When I see it I want to throw trash in it.

Fuck Mac :)

Dey Terk er Jerbs!

better quality hardware means less hardware issues and better os with less viruses , bloatware etc which means more productivity.

To the guy that built his own do you not get that 99% of computer shoppers can't even consider doing that so have to hire somebody to do it thus which cost $ and is a pain when they could have it configured by Apple and working 100 percent and supported right out of the box.

when a media company for instance a post editing house wants 10 computers do you think they want to go through the bs and cost of spending their staff to build them or did they just go to Apple and order them?

Also video people buy mac because final cut is def the best editing software.

[QUOTE=American Psycho;19848641]I guess, for me, it comes down to choice. I build my own PC's so I buy good stuff for them. I have only ever had one HD fail and 1 memory stick over all the years.

I have good anti virus and know how to avoid spyware ect.

That said, I understand I am not the typical user so someone who knows a lot less might benefit from a mac. For example my brother's wife's computer gets so full of spyware and viruses about every 4-6 months I end up fixing it because it is going so slow it takes 10 minutes to boot up.