Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22302113)

I'm waiting for the day that somebody explains to him - and many on here - how NATO actually works.

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22302113)

I'm waiting for the day that somebody explains to him - and many on here - how NATO actually works.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302122)

good point, I can summarize how nato "works" in 1 sentence:

For decades europe has not taken its own security seriously.





nato proves that.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22302133)

Who is gonna attack Europe? Oh right...nobody LOL

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302137)

then you won't have a problem if/when trump withdraws the USA from it.

got it.

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22302140)

Nope, not a problem ....

This will prevent NATO to go in Afghanistan , Lybia ....

After all, it is the North Atlantic .... Not the Remove Dictator ....

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302142)

then this is a positive thread about the USA going in the right direction by reducing our contribution to nato by 20%. here's to hoping we withdraw the remaining 80%!

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22302149)

Imagine how it would look to you if I woke up every morning, read what Bernie Sanders said and based on that and that alone, started ranting and raving about that thing and how it's the end of the world all day long without even thinking about the issue, the facts or WHO i'm actually arguing for or against... then woke up, read the new headlines and soundbites and went batshit nuts again all day long irregardless of the facts or issues, who is being helped or hurt etc.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302142)

then this is a positive thread about the USA going in the right direction by reducing our contribution to nato by 20%. here's to hoping we withdraw the remaining 80%!

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22302162)

He didn't reduce by 20% ... He just cannot keep up his lies in a row from one day to the other ...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302142)

then this is a positive thread about the USA going in the right direction by reducing our contribution to nato by 20%. here's to hoping we withdraw the remaining 80%!

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302099)

what? the summit starts tomorrow.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22302175)

nah...you guys have too much $$$ invested in war...the right direction is for small countries to stock up on nukes and bacteria...everything else is just smoke and mirrors...

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22302176)

Like we need a summit to happen for Trump to bend over and give Putin everything he wants while trying to destabilize Europe..

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302177)

stick to making fake btc trades. no one gives a shit about serbia.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22302183)

I was talking about ALL small countries nuking/bio the fuck up...if certain death is the only option for the invader, he will stay at home :2 cents:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302185)

again, that's why you should stick to fake btc trades. only an uneducated dolt would think more nukes in more hands makes sense.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22302196)

got it. you will have no problem when/if trump withdraws the USA from NATO.

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22302113)

I'm waiting for the day that somebody explains to him - and many on here - how NATO actually works.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22302121)

Remember how Russia invaded Crimea?

Putin doesn't like NATO because he can't expand much farther invading other innocent countries because NATO protects those countries...

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22302313)

I actually agree with Trump on this one. If there are NATO allies who are not meeting their promised levels of spending, they should be held accountable. We spend way too much on the military as it is, cutting back on NATO funding (so long as they don't just waste that money somewhere else, sound good to me.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22302313)

I actually agree with Trump on this one. If there are NATO allies who are not meeting their promised levels of spending, they should be held accountable. We spend way too much on the military as it is, cutting back on NATO funding (so long as they don't just waste that money somewhere else, sound good to me.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22302324)

Sad how the non industry alt-right hate fake nics here want everything Putin wants. Every single thing Putin has been working for those alt-right hate fake nics want. Imagine that

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22302324)

Sad how the non industry alt-right hate fake nics here want everything Putin wants. Every single thing Putin has been working for those alt-right hate fake nics want. Imagine that

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22302324)

Sad how the non industry alt-right hate fake nics here want everything Putin wants. Every single thing Putin has been working for those alt-right hate fake nics want. Imagine that

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22302348)

LMAO!

Yes, Putin wants Europe to spend MORE money on their own defense.

Logical, as always...

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22302303)

Left for the last 50 Years... "we need to scale back NATO", "We don't need NATO", "The Cold War is over, End NATO"

Also Left: "WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES... HOW DARE YOU SCALE BACK NATO. FUCK. SHit. Fuck fuck fuck. Shit. Trump. Fuck. Whore. Trump. Trump. Russia. TRUMP. TRUMP."



Just like with his campaign, Trump had to spend very little money because the media and the Left did his campaigning for him... mostly talking how dumb he is and how he can't possibly win and how each new thing he said and did would only hurt him and his chances of winning the election.... and every time you acted out like little children, his popularity went up, not down.

It's super kind of you idiots to recognize that and then double down on your efforts for the whole 4 years to make sure he gets a second term. Hopefully you'll all get a MAGA hat. You've all earned it.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22302353)

The arguments of these people is insane. Putin wanted Trump elected so... what? We could have a strong economy? A booming stock market? Increased military spending? Tougher and better trade deals? etc etc.

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22302363)

But, Putin is a genius. So much so that he can crown Presidents in the U.S. and fake the will of the U.K. people towards Brexit.

If only he could learn to cheat at the World Cup - it must be harder to do?

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22302380)

:thumbsup

To be fair, Putin is a genius. He is an apex predator that is always playing chess to everyone's checkers all the time.

Do you remember how he got elected the first time? Of course not. It was the most brilliant coup ever in history. No one noticed. No one cared. No one said a single word. World Bank, European Bank of Reconstruction and Development and all the many nations offering up international loans,... never missed a beat. The flow of cash into Russia at a time when they were basically bankrupt never stopped flowing. It was almost magical how he took control of a nation where just 5 years before Yeltsin actively tried to splinter and destroy the KGB.

Yeltsin had outlived his usefulness, the "Oligarchs" had been deemed to have stolen enough and he slid right into the Kremlin. A lowly deputy to the Governor of St Petersurg region. In what was clearly a brokered agreement, he was made Prime Minister (Yeltsin was President) after many many Prime Ministers were fired by Yeltsin as they became popular. No one had heard of Putin at that time. The hot button issue was Chechnya and Russia l(great in their own minds) lost a war to a band of villagers aremed with AKs and RPGs and Druganovs and a will to fight, Coming right on the heels of the collapse of the Soviet Union, this was a huge blow to Russians egos. As Prime Minister he started talking hinting at revisiting the Chechen peace deal, then started getting a little more vocal about it and the "greatness of our nation" kind of stuff and then magically, little skirmishes began happening all around Chechnya. He vowed to crack down. The elections happened right then and he won by a legitimate landslide. Next thing you know a convoy of "Chechens" crashed a military checkpoint into Dagestan, apartment buildings started blowing up in Moscow, "Operation Whirlwind" was in full effect where you couldn't drive more than 2-3km without a police checkpoint, flak jackets, full tactical gear etc... and unsuprisingly, a lot of "Chechens" were caught with stolen weapons systems to smuggle out etc etc etc and next thing you know, the tanks are headed back to Grozny and Chechnya is now Russia and Putin is on his 4th term. :)

But he took a lot of dark turns along the way and now has become one of the Oligarchs he was originally fighting against.

Obama and Hillary just couldn't understand Russians. They only respect strength and power. They instinctively roll right over weakness. But there is one thing that Putin and anyone in power in Russia have never wanted and do not want... ever and that is a strong USA.