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the_software_dev 02-24-2023 11:59 AM

Need help deciding what to do with cams aggregator
 
Hello! So I'm a software developer with experience on the tech side of the adult field, but 0 experience on the business side. Few months ago I started working on a webcam aggregator script with the intention of selling it once it's done. I'm close to finish, so I started looking at other aggregators / cam affiliates to see how we compare and here is where I start to get confused...

I noticed that my aggregator "script" (which is now basically a full CMS) is miles away from every other website or script of this type. It has so much better SEO and user experience, AND it's super easy to set up (I think I can build 2-3 websites per day with it). In terms of SEO and UX I was able to find only 2 other websites that come close, and those are definitely custom-made. So now that I've seen what the competition looks like between affiliates, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't sell my webcam aggregator CMS to others but build my own websites with it, since they would be so much better. The problem is that selling the script provides revenue instantly, while building my own affiliate sites means that I will start earning in ~3-6 months from now.

So.. I'm curious, what would you do?

ANAL PASTE 02-24-2023 12:02 PM

Can you write parcer on server side that would collect images from this feed and store on a server? Ever worked with web hooks like that?

https://pornpen.ai/feed

the_software_dev 02-24-2023 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE (Post 23101321)
Can you write parcer on server side that would collect images from this feed and store on a server? Ever worked with web hooks like that?

Wrong thread? :upsidedow Anyway: yes, I can do that.

lockept93 02-24-2023 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101320)
Hello! So I'm a software developer with a lot of tech experience in the adult field, but 0 experience on the business side of the adult field. Few months ago I started working on a webcam aggregator script with the intention of selling it once it's done. I'm close to finish, so I started looking at other aggregators / cam affiliates to see how we compare and here is where I start to get confused...

I noticed that my aggregator "script" (which is now basically a full CMS) is miles away from every other website or script of this type. It has so much better SEO and user experience, AND it's super easy to set up (I think I can build 2-3 websites per day with it). In terms of SEO and UX I was able to find only 2 other websites that come close, and those are definitely custom-made. So now that I've seen what the competition looks like between affiliates, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't sell my webcam aggregator CMS to others but build my own websites with it, since they would be so much better. The problem is that selling the script provides revenue instantly, while building my own affiliate sites means that I will start earning in ~3-6 months from now.

So.. I'm curious, what would you do?

If u do not have traffic, you have nothing even with 100 perfect sites. You say your script has "so much better seo" - how can u know that? What about domains? What about links? You dont rank just for a good seo structure.

So from what you write I believe u should focus your strenght - programing.

My honest answer.

Colmike9 02-24-2023 12:27 PM

If you do make sites on your own, try Chaturbate using the link in my sig, it makes a lot of money for some people.

But, if I were you, I'd sell it as non-exclusive, then you can use the script for your own sites, too.

Also, there are a lot more traffic sources than just SEO. Think like a salesman.

LouiseLloyd 02-24-2023 12:31 PM

Hi Foxxie,

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101320)
So.. I'm curious, what would you do?

First, use it yourself for a set period before releasing for sale to other affiliates. If it is head & shoulders above other scripts, sell copies for a premium price that reflect it's quality.

I know you won't offer a demo right now, so in lieu of that, can you share what you consider these to be...

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101320)
I was able to find only 2 other websites that come close, and those are definitely custom-made.

I look forward to seeing how this develops.

:pimp

the_software_dev 02-24-2023 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 23101330)
If u do not have traffic, you have nothing even with 100 perfect sites. You say your script has "so much better seo" - how can u know that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 23101337)
I know you won't offer a demo right now, so in lieu of that, can you share what you consider these to be...

Just one of many things: mine scores 99/100 on Google Lighthouse, everything else barely hits 80/100. And those are the good ones.

Holy Damage 02-24-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101355)
Just one of many things: mine scores 99/100 on Google Lighthouse, everything else barely hits 80/100. And those are the good ones.

links > anything else, including speed


I have a site with 98/100 barely getting 150 hits per day.... and a 72/100 with 50k daily

LouiseLloyd 02-24-2023 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101355)
Just one of many things: mine scores 99/100 on Google Lighthouse, everything else barely hits 80/100. And those are the good ones.

Can you recall the 2 sites you consider these to be?

the_software_dev 02-24-2023 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Damage (Post 23101362)
links > anything else, including speed


I have a site with 98/100 barely getting 150 hits per day.... and a 72/100 with 50k daily

Ofc, but external links are out of the script's control (ish, won't get into this now). So assuming you can pull the same links on these 2 websites, the one powered by my script is going to perform at least 25% better.

mrmister 02-24-2023 01:05 PM

If you consider selling it, let me know. I'd love to try it

ZTT 02-24-2023 01:11 PM

If you can't pay the rent without selling it, hide from the landlord. Otherwise don't sell it, if it's as good as you say and you think it can kill other sites.

If things don't go as well as you hoped, you can still sell it later, but you can't 'unsell' once it's out there in other peoples' hands.

ANAL PASTE 02-24-2023 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101324)
Wrong thread? :upsidedow Anyway: yes, I can do that.

Do you have email? I cant send PM to you.

the_software_dev 02-24-2023 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE (Post 23101383)
Do you have email? I cant send PM to you.

[email protected]

AmeliaG 02-24-2023 04:12 PM

What types of sites have you coded in the past?

If you have a domain portfolio sitting around with existing links in, and your script is super easy to set up, you can use it to populate some content without much effort, and just see how it goes.

Selling it nonexclusive doesn't mean you can't utilize it yourself. If traffic-building is not your thing, you may benefit from that sort of hybrid business model.

fuzebox 02-24-2023 06:53 PM

You would not be the first or even the thousandth programmer to think their stuff is so much better and loves to criticize the UI/UX of successful sites...

Google Lighthouse :1orglaugh We got an SEO professional here!

gar 02-25-2023 03:08 AM

It was my question too.

I didn't sell it because I don't want to answer email and provide supports.

A year later, I make money while I sleep :winkwink:

Site is below. Some say it's shit some say they like it.

If your site is that good show it :pimp

the_software_dev 02-25-2023 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23101460)
What types of sites have you coded in the past?

If you have a domain portfolio sitting around with existing links in, and your script is super easy to set up, you can use it to populate some content without much effort, and just see how it goes.

Selling it nonexclusive doesn't mean you can't utilize it yourself. If traffic-building is not your thing, you may benefit from that sort of hybrid business model.

Thanks, you're the only one to actually address my question! Unfortunately I don't have domains so I'm gonna have to start this from scratch. I think I'll go for it tho.

> What types of sites have you coded in the past?

Anything you can imagine :1orglaugh

ZTT 02-25-2023 01:44 PM

Your question was should you sell or keep it to yourself and you got several different answers. The one not answering the questions is you, such as what you've done in the past and what are the sites you think you're better than.

VladS 02-25-2023 01:48 PM

Well... nice way of marketing yourself :thumbsup

To play along, do both, or do none, or do one... whatever makes you happy, one does not eliminate the other...

In terms of frontend, on-site SEO, UX, whatever, it makes absolutely no diference of the backend as long as it's not a complete pile of shit... the frontend can be modified and optimised to the max :2 cents:

For example, with Konrad's Cam Aggregator script, i have optimised the frontend for a lot of its users and they do perfectly fine in terms of on-site SEO, speed and overall usability and rankings.

I would love to see your script in action, though :thumbsup

the_software_dev 02-25-2023 02:25 PM

I'm not going to continue this stupid conversation. I asked a question and you all got butthurt. See you on the field I guess, and thanks to everyone who actually bothered to answer what I was asking.

Stay mad,
Foxxie

Colmike9 02-25-2023 02:48 PM

I'll bet you'll make about $90 on this, then try something else..

the_software_dev 02-25-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike9 (Post 23101763)
I'll bet you'll make about $90 on this, then try something else..

No worries, I'll make sure to sign up using the link in your signature as you suggested above. Cause yeah, we're all 14 yos scrambling over a quick buck :upsidedow

Colmike9 02-25-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101767)
No worries, I'll make sure to sign up using the link in your signature as you suggested above. Cause yeah, we're all 14 yos scrambling over a quick buck :upsidedow

My sig has made me a lot of money, thanks lol.

sarettah 02-25-2023 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101760)
I'm not going to continue this stupid conversation. I asked a question and you all got butthurt. See you on the field I guess, and thanks to everyone who actually bothered to answer what I was asking.

Stay mad,
Foxxie

"you all got butthurt", really?

only one person in this conversation sounds butthurt to me.

you want to survive gfy? grow a thicker skin.

As far as whether you should sell your software or just make sites or both or none, without seeing the program in action it is hard to make any reasonable suggestions imho

.

gar 02-25-2023 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23101785)
"you all got butthurt", really?

only one person in this conversation sounds butthurt to me.

you want to survive gfy? grow a thicker skin.

As far as whether you should sell your software or just make sites or both or none, without seeing the program in action it is hard to make any reasonable suggestions imho

.

:2 cents::2 cents::winkwink:

LouiseLloyd 02-25-2023 04:57 PM

If the SEO-ability is like you say.

How about something that is a bit of both...

Create a whitelabel service using your script that allows other affiliates to use it and customise/SEO to their needs, but all copies have a compulsory link to your main cam affiliate site, pretty much how a lot of open source scripts operate with a footer link.

Just another idea that will meet your needs and that of a lot of affiliates, who are forever complaining about existing cam site whitelabels, where they might not necessarily have the skill to create a site using an API, but whitelabels usually contain canonical link rendering them pretty low value option for SEO affiliates.

JesseQuinn 02-25-2023 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VladS (Post 23101747)
Well... nice way of marketing yourself

seriously

I think sometimes people forget that conduct and professionalism (or lack thereof) weights in heavily when making a decision to work with a developer or purchasing a script/CMS

personally there's a very small handful of peeps here I would never work with or rec to others, simply cuz they have revealed their personalities and attitudes to be so unpleasant. life is too short to deal with that kind of headache


Quote:

Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101760)
I'm not going to continue this stupid conversation

uh, you come here first as an individual (now it's apparently 'we' the 'team') with basically a splash page for your website, no one knows you, your site has no web presence other than the direct URL and you claim to be better than everyone else but for two sites you won't name

I bet I'm not the only one here to suspect this thread is basically an indirect soft-sell, with you hoping peeps will contact you directly, off the board


Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23101785)
without seeing the program in action it is hard to make any reasonable suggestions imho

I'm guessing the script is the one he posted in his intro thread, camworldx.com

it was registered shortly before he joined here, and two of the most prominent footer links (reddit and twitter) are still completely empty

if that is the site, I don't see it anywhere in goog except for when searching directly by the name

it's a nice looking site, loads well, etc. noticed there's no Privacy, Contact or T&C pages though. regarding UI it's not all that different than what Konrad's put out. I prefer the OP's design aesthetically, but Konrad's demo is just that. colors and such can be easily changed


@OP I thought there were several constructive and helpful replies to your query in this thread, as well as valid and relevant questions that you chose to leave unaddressed

you flying off the handle over nothing speaks volumes though

fuzebox 02-25-2023 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101767)
Cause yeah, we're all 14 yos scrambling over a quick buck :upsidedow

This is exactly what you come across as :2 cents:

Colmike9 02-25-2023 11:14 PM

1. This is the adult industry. There are a lot of KWs that can easily be ranked #1 for, like most of them, it's finding the KWs that convert then scaling up that's most of the game. If you think that your cam sites are ranking higher than most, then you just aren't seeing most of the converting terms, because you don't know what they are yet.
2. A lot of people making big money in cams are doing media buys, they only care about EPCs, so none of them will notice your script.
3. There are already a ton of these API scripts available, people also know how to do their own SEO instead of relying on an out of the box solution to do it for them. Yes, API does convert well, but there's a lot more to it than making it look good and doing on-site SEO. As an affiliate, you want the surfer to go on your site, set the cookie, then get them on the cam/ref site as quick as possible, let them finish the signup/sale. I can make a crappy site that converts better than your "perfect" site.
4. You can probably get around $20-50 each for something like this.
5. Calling yourself "the_software_dev" is sus.
6. Be nice to people and think customer service, that gets more connections and potential buyers if you do sell the script/something.
7. Learn how a forum called Go Fuck Yourself works before getting butthurt.

8. https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-F6xV8TxTO...s1600/pbbc.png

INever 02-26-2023 02:43 AM

Welcome to go fuck yourself.

Holy Damage 02-26-2023 03:31 AM

If you dont want to show your website, you could put some domain online (demo) and ask people to check it... that will make people desire go to sky if your script is good enough and better than what is available in the market like you said

If your script can beat Roboscripts (RIP) its a good signal

For now, you are just screaming how good your script is

ravo 02-26-2023 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101760)
I'm not going to continue this stupid conversation. I asked a question and you all got butthurt. See you on the field I guess, and thanks to everyone who actually bothered to answer what I was asking.

Stay mad,
Foxxie

Classic newbie implode. THIS is why I love GFY.

Markul 02-26-2023 08:55 AM

Welcome to GFY :thumbsup

emmasexytime 02-26-2023 02:04 PM

not much speed difference between this site and https://xrateduniversity.com/

emmasexytime 02-26-2023 02:06 PM

i like your site though

i think it would sell at a reasonable price point ($30-$100) as robo is gone and mech one is a lot higher price

3xmedia 02-26-2023 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by emmasexytime (Post 23102144)
not much speed difference between this site and https://xrateduniversity.com/

bitch always finds a way to put spam :1orglaugh:321GFY

mrmister 02-26-2023 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 23102155)
bitch always finds a way to put spam :1orglaugh:321GFY

Yeah I don't get it. Aren't links on gfy nofollow aswell?

Shoplifter 02-26-2023 02:39 PM

It's a nice looking script.

j3rkules 02-27-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23102157)
Yeah I don't get it. Aren't links on gfy nofollow aswell?

Yes, all links are nofollow by default.

:thumbsup

emmasexytime 02-28-2023 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 23102155)
bitch always finds a way to put spam :1orglaugh:321GFY

I was comparing his to robo's one :321GFY

hellboy78 04-24-2024 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101320)
Hello! So I'm a software developer with experience on the tech side of the adult field, but 0 experience on the business side. Few months ago I started working on a webcam aggregator script with the intention of selling it once it's done. I'm close to finish, so I started looking at other aggregators / cam affiliates to see how we compare and here is where I start to get confused...

I noticed that my aggregator "script" (which is now basically a full CMS) is miles away from every other website or script of this type. It has so much better SEO and user experience, AND it's super easy to set up (I think I can build 2-3 websites per day with it). In terms of SEO and UX I was able to find only 2 other websites that come close, and those are definitely custom-made. So now that I've seen what the competition looks like between affiliates, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't sell my webcam aggregator CMS to others but build my own websites with it, since they would be so much better. The problem is that selling the script provides revenue instantly, while building my own affiliate sites means that I will start earning in ~3-6 months from now.

So.. I'm curious, what would you do?

great...

sarettah 04-24-2024 07:09 AM

Well, that didn't last long.

https://madspiders.com/images/foxxie_dev_1.png

https://madspiders.com/images/foxxie_dev_2.png

blackmonsters 04-24-2024 11:21 AM

More shattered dreams.

:2 cents:

JesseQuinn 04-24-2024 11:39 AM

^^^you mean like S using the 'light' background on his browser? I'm guttered too

Mr Pheer 04-25-2024 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 23257121)
^^^you mean like S using the 'light' background on his browser? I'm guttered too

LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dark mode is the best thing ever invented :thumbsup

I mean for a browser, dark mode is great. Had to clarify so King Mark doesn't get excited.

Colmike9 04-25-2024 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23257490)
LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dark mode is the best thing ever invented :thumbsup

I mean for a browser, dark mode is great. Had to clarify so King Mark doesn't get excited.

If I made a tube or cam site, then made a dark mode button, but when you press it, all of the videos/cam girls turn to ebony niche, would people be mad at me or would that be a fun feature that could go "viral"?
Just curious

emmasexytime 04-29-2024 12:17 AM

his cam site is still live though :2 cents: https://nichepornsites.com/how-to-ma...ive-cams-site/

k0nr4d 04-29-2024 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23257047)
Well, that didn't last long.

Not surprising. It's not possible to make a living selling scripts in the adult industry anymore - especially with something like a cam aggregator which can really only be used exclusively in this industry. Almost our entire income is from custom development. Scripts are a long game - it takes a while to make back the money you invested into writing it in the first place and in some cases (like our tgp script) you never do.

hellboy78 04-29-2024 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by emmasexytime (Post 23258507)
his cam site is still live though :2 cents: https://nichepornsites.com/how-to-ma...ive-cams-site/

his site is live, but he doesn't reply to emails and the girl in charge for marketing ban everyone try to contact her.


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