Where to find models?
I expatriated out of the US and am now in non-English speaking countries. I have an idea for a paysite but need models. Where can models be sourced from?
I'm currently in Eastern Europe if this helps. |
a lot of content producers on this board that will probably give you an idea
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Yeah, more content owners will post tomorrow.
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You're in Eastern Europe so prostitutes & strip clubs
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You'd still have to screen them, just like any other hire. The nice thing is, once you're inside the club, they usually come to you. |
Craigslist
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Looks like a lot of models are from Prague. Anyone know of how to find the models? I'm pretty sure there's a model DB or agency.
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Most agencies in E Europe require registration and approval. So be ready to prove you are a legit producer, or at least seems like one.
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Prostitutes = the stupidest idea. Prostitutes are never models (at least those in Europe) and even if they do want to shoot porn, they are usually too primitive to work with. Prostitutes enjoy their privacy, thats why they are prostitutes, they dont want to be seen.
Which country you are in? |
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Try night walks
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if youŽre interested in real models, thereŽs many model companies in Europe. Of course, this is for real costs, flights etc.
I suggest speaking in bars, chat with women & see if you can film some first timers, you could have some luck. Even if youŽre out for a night, chat with maybe 20 or 30 girls, youŽll find one, then the night was worth while... 3 times a week and youŽll have plenty of weekly content :thumbsup |
CZ or Hungary...in other eastern euro countries you are simply wasting your time...good looking prostitutes do not want to do porn...
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Prague - holy shit Prague. Some many hot girls that if you have $$ they will come at you like never ending Chinese army.
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Thats surprisingly simple. Thanks! |
Can you speak the local language? If so advertise in the places students and others go to for part time jobs. If you can't you have to go to use agents.
Poland is hard because it's Catholic, Ukraine illegal and you need mafia connections, the Czech Republic it's easier but they're now well aware if it goes online their friends, family and neighbours will know. |
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east-eu is good for this purpose, best of luck
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Prague and Budapest is all you need. There are models in other countries like Spain, Uk and France, but no point to bother unless you have a specific idea in mind.
There is an american dude called PornoDan which moved from US to Budapest and it working fine for him. |
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Correct + be sure to know the local laws too :2 cents: |
I normally just walk up to girls in public places and casually speak with them about the possibility of them participating in my amateur modeling shoots. I went though an agency once, but I only shot just a few girls. It is just much safer (and more convenient) to advertise online looking for models. I do this quite a bit too. However, if you take the "finding girls on the street" approach, you must be very professional, as well as respectful in terms of your approach.
If you don't feel comfortable with using such a direct approach in order to recruit female talent, I'd try to hook up with an agency or either create some ads that are local to your area and post them online. Or of course, you can just go out and recruit the models on your own. Good luck to you! :thumbsup |
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Reminded me of my old days running an escort agency and having those strippers calling in to give it a shot for few nights. 90% of them after the first call get bad feedback from the costumers and get fired lol or she just quit and go back stripping will never see her again LOL . |
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I can honestly tell you offering a porn job directly to random girls on the street would be hard, time consuming and extremely tiring - this is Europe, not USA. I believe many of them wouldn't even respond to your very first and very important question - "how old are you?" . Just because of privacy. |
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From my own experience, models are usually intelligent girls (at least those who I work with), since they understand the difference between prostitution and porn acting... while prostitutes are totally stupid, unreliable and impossible to work with. Most of them earn over 50e a day from their homes, untaxed (which is very good here), enjoying privacy and feeling safe as they are rarely alone ..why would they shoot public porn to earn a few extra per day of "hard work" with persons they don't know and outside their safe apartments? For them it's hard work for low money compared to selling sex services, not to mention they are usually fugly and drugged. |
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A card needed, the professional equipment for the first meeting. A proper place or address, itŽs a straight forward way to tout for models, apart from you need to be doing it right. Quote:
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To execute this correctly, RASCLS must be implemented: * Reciprocation - tell the girls walking by at a public place (main square) that they're attractive. * Authority - tell them that you work for a model scouting agency. Have a clipboard and paperwork with you. * Social Proof - have multiple scouts at the scene. * Likability - look good yourself (or have good looking scouts) * Scarcity - This is built in, only attractive girls are talked to. The scouts need to ask if the potential models are OK with lingerie shoots, erotic shoots, and nude shoots. Then, get IDs and book interviews at a nice restaurant with models who are OK with lingerie, erotic, and nude. The models would need to speak English. Scouts are almost minimum wage jobs -- they're not much different than a guy handing out flyers but they just need more motivation than that guy. In E Europe, the minimum wage is like $3/hour, so it's easy to get 3 scouts working part time to be at the Main Square during peak hours ($180/week). Those 3 scouts just need to find 1 model/week to have a paysite going. That's very, very feasible, especially in a big city like Prague. |
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For 180 per week a reliable person could have a serious job with long time perspective instead of publicly exposing his face in connection to pornography ... not to mention that if you want to employ them legally, you would need to pay taxes from their salaries. And then.. you can expect that 1/2 of the girls who agreed would not eventually show up on the shooting day. Also, if you need chicks that speak decent English and are willing to do porn, well.. good luck. :1orglaugh Scouts usually receive a provision for each model instead of working fixed time for a fixed salary. Paying them per model would be much more effective. It also depends on how much money you offer per shoot to the models. Nice girls in Czech Republic are not cheap.. don't confuse amateurs (first timers) with the chicks from agencies. First timers often expect 2-3 times more than what is usual. The reason is that the models in agencies have steady amount of work offered to them, so they are willing to accept less cash per shoot. They know the state of this industry and what is the norm. Amateurs are usually clueless and if you approach them this way, they feel important and often expect lots of money for getting naked. |
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This is what I'm gonna do: * Go there myself and recruit girls in person. * After X weeks of doing it myself, I'll figure out how its done and can train scouts as well as know the compensation for the models and scouts. Obviously, I'll be looking for other methods of model recruitment but I have a background in in-person, cold-approach sales; so, I still think this approach could be feasible. 1 model/week is a very low quota and, given a city like Prague is huge and has a large tourist population, it could be: * 1 backpacker tourist who needs some money to continue traveling * a student who is fed up with her minimum wage job * an Erasmus student who wants to have a fun experience abroad If Scentiologists can get people to pay to be brainwashed, if Jehovahs Witnesses can get people to believe they can live for 1,000 years, and if Herbalife can get people to think that they'll get rich selling something everyone else is selling; I'm sure getting 1 girl/week to do a porn is easy. |
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Please, report here how you did. I am really curious about the outcome. :) |
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Go to an agent. |
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The niche I'm targeting gets 22,000 searches/month. At a .2% conversion rate and $20/month subscription, that's $880/month increase in cash flow. In 6 months, that's over 5k/month. I'm pretty sure the company will be cash flow positive in 6 months. and... No. If it goes well, the only thing you'll hear from me is, maybe, an ad on GFY for new amateur models from a model scouting agency :P |
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Well, prostitution (selling sex by individuals on their own) is legal, running a brothel (pimping / profiting from prostitution) is not legal, but there are thousands of these places in form of private apartments. |
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Ok :winkwink: And the niche is a secret too? |
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