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Aussie Rebel 01-26-2011 06:26 PM

Google Starts Censoring BitTorrent, RapidShare and More
 
Interesting stuff :)


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It?s taken a while, but Google has finally caved in to pressure from the entertainment industries including the MPAA and RIAA. The search engine now actively censors terms including BitTorrent, torrent, utorrent, RapidShare and Megaupload from its instant and autocomplete services. The reactions from affected companies and services are not mild, with BitTorrent Inc., RapidShare and Vodo all speaking out against this act of commercial censorship.

google censorship The entertainment industries? quest to root out piracy on the Internet has yet again resulted in commercial censorship. A few weeks ago Google announced that it would start filtering ?piracy related? terms from its ?Autocomplete? and ?Instant? services and today they quietly rolled out this questionable feature.

Without a public notice Google has compiled a seemingly arbitrary list of keywords for which auto-complete is no longer available. Although the impact of this decision does not currently affect full search results, it does send out a strong signal that Google is willing to censor its services proactively, and to an extent that is far greater than many expected.

Among the list of forbidden keywords are ?uTorrent?, a hugely popular piece of entirely legal software and ?BitTorrent?, a file transfer protocol and the name of San Fransisco based company BitTorrent Inc. As of today, these keywords will no longer be suggested by Google when you type in the first letter, nor will they show up in Google Instant.

All combinations of the word ?torrent? are also completely banned. This means that ?Ubuntu torrent? will not be suggested as a user types in Ubuntu, and the same happens to every other combination ending in the word torrent. This of course includes the titles of popular films and music albums, which is the purpose of Google?s banlist.

TorrentFreak contacted BitTorrent Inc. for a reaction, and Simon Morris told TorrentFreak that he believes the scope of this filter is too broad.

?We respect Google?s right to determine algorithms to deliver appropriate search results to user requests. That being said, our company?s trademarked name is fairly unique, and we?re pretty confident that anyone typing the first six or seven letters deserves the same easy access to results as with any other company search,? Morris said.

?A quick search for ?BitTorrent? currently returns a variety of legitimate and useful links, including company information, our software, our open-source protocol, and more. What Google may not realize is that our technology is used for many purposes that provide significant value to the technology industry, companies, artists and consumers at large,? he added.
Google?s new ?Piracy? filter (no autocomplete)

google piracy filter

What is most surprising about the new filter is that the keywords appear to be picked arbitrarily. It includes BitTorrent clients such as uTorrent and Xunlei, but not BitComet and Vuze. While cyberlockers such as RapidShare and Megaupload are banned, prominent sites such as 4shared, HotFile and MediaFire are not.

In addition, all the names of popular torrent sites including The Pirate Bay are not included in Google?s banlist either. BitTorrent?s Simon Morris agrees that this is odd, to say the least.

?There?s no reason for Google to throttle search results for our trademarks, including BitTorrent, µTorrent and torrent. Indeed, they do still enable autocomplete for many third-party clients that use the BitTorrent protocol, including BitComet, BitLord, and even sites like The Pirate Bay and Isohunt.?

Morris further points out that the inclusion of Xunlei is a little hypocritical since Google is one of the investors in the Chinese BitTorrent client.

?We?d also like to point out that while Google doesn?t enable autocomplete for Xunlei (China?s largest software client that uses the BitTorrent protocol) Google did invest $5 million in the company in 2006, according to reports,? Morris says, adding, ?We sincerely hope Google will recognize the value of BitTorrent and reevaluate this decision expeditiously.?

RapidShare is not pleased with Google?s new filter either, at least not with its current scope in today?s roll-out.

?We knew about Google?s plans for quite a few weeks now. We embrace that certain search suggestions will not put a wrong complexion on RapidShare anymore, but we are concerned that at the same time the legitimate interests of our users will also be affected. We believe it was the wrong decision to remove the term ?RapidShare? from the search suggestions,? RapidShare told TorrentFreak.

?RapidShare is one of the most popular websites worldwide. Every day hundreds of thousands of users rely on our services to pursue their perfectly legitimate interests. That is why Google has obviously gone too far with censoring the results of its suggest algorithm. A search engine?s results should reflect the users? interests and not Google?s or anybody else?s,? the company added.

Indeed, RapidShare has certainly touched a nerve here. It is clear that this filter is the result of pressure from the entertainment industries, which is not at all in the interests of users. Now that Google has begun proactively censoring their services for commercial reasons, more companies will demand the same. At the same time, the entertainment industries will continue to pressure Google to go even further, and censor the actual search results.

Apparently Google has decided that its users should not be searching for the keyword BitTorrent, so why list any results then? It?s the beginning of the end.

Jamie King, the founder of Vodo ? a platform where artists can share their work with million of people at no cost ? agrees with this assessment. Searching for one of their perfectly legal releases on Google used to suggest the word ?torrent? with a link to the download page, but not anymore.

?Google already showed it will censor for the highest bidder ? China Inc. springs to mind. Now it?s doing it for MPAA & Co.,? King told TorrentFreak.

?I guess it?s simple: our favorite search monopoly cares less about helping the thousands of independent creators who use BitTorrent to distribute legal, free-to-share content than they do about protecting the interests of Big Media in its death throes.?

Indeed, Google is going down the wrong path by willingly and broadly censoring its services to please a few big companies. This is not the way to get rid of piracy, it?s the way to a corporate controlled Internet. Google may have been proud to leave China because of its political censorship, but it should be ashamed of promoting commercial censorship worldwide.
source: http://torrentfreak.com/google-start...d-more-110126/

cr4zy1van 01-26-2011 06:28 PM

this is good news for the porn and music industry.

Ace_luffy 01-26-2011 06:31 PM

goodnews on the entertainment industry specially on pornworld

Agent 488 01-26-2011 06:31 PM

very old news. not removed from the serps, just instant/autocomplete so who cares? same as porn terms.

fatfoo 01-26-2011 06:32 PM

I can see that Google has become against piracy on the Internet. Google started filtering "piracy related" terms.

Caligari 01-26-2011 06:37 PM

just the beginning, soon the butt torrents etc will be wiped from 90% of searches

18teens 01-26-2011 08:34 PM

A step in the right direction.

Lester Burnham 01-26-2011 09:09 PM

There seems to be a slippery slope issue here. Basically, an industry group pressures a leading search engine to censor certain words. What's next? Now that Google has shown that it is willing to cave to public or private interests, who is to say they don't target other "taboo" subject matter, e.g., porn, guns, etc., etc.

FlexxAeon 01-26-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 17871971)
Although the impact of this decision does not currently affect full search results....

thats where i stopped. :upsidedow

baddog 01-26-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lester Burnham (Post 17872207)
There seems to be a slippery slope issue here. Basically, an industry group pressures a leading search engine to censor certain words. What's next? Now that Google has shown that it is willing to cave to public or private interests, who is to say they don't target other "taboo" subject matter, e.g., porn, guns, etc., etc.

Read it again. All it effects are auto-complete results. Besides, it is their game they can do whatever they want with it.

Slippery slope? Not hardly. Go to Bing if you don't like it.

Agent 488 01-26-2011 09:14 PM

as usual no one reads or understands. nothing was removed from the index. only from google instant.

porn terms have already been removed.

Lester Burnham 01-26-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17872214)
Read it again. All it effects are auto-complete results. Besides, it is their game they can do whatever they want with it.

Slippery slope? Not hardly. Go to Bing if you don't like it.

Starts with auto-complete, then moves on to something else in the future IMHO. It always starts with a small nudge.

They can do whatever they want, and their new rules don't impact my searching habits. But people are bound to bitch and moan when Google does this to stuff they care about.

I prefer Bing for image search :thumbsup

GregE 01-26-2011 09:23 PM

10, 9, 8, 7 . . .

Gideon should be in here any second now.

baddog 01-26-2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lester Burnham (Post 17872225)
But people are bound to bitch and moan when Google does this to stuff they care about.

Are you talking about "people" that utilize G or those that attempt to manipulate G?

If it becomes something that negatively effects the end user, they will go elsewhere and G will change again.

We aren't talking Apple here.

BIGTYMER 01-26-2011 09:42 PM

Umm.. Yet they run YouTube.

will76 01-26-2011 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17872226)
10, 9, 8, 7 . . .

Gideon should be in here any second now.

All of you give the guy too much attention. He is just a nobody punk, failure in adult who latched on to something that made him feel important in the eyes of other nobody punk kids, anti capitalist, and hippie liberals.

So he learned some basic laws and concepts, he went from being just another insignificant nobody to now everyone knows his name on here and gives him way too much attention. Just ignore him, the pro piracy group of people really are a sub class of humans. Bunch of punk kids, broke dicks, and people who are anti making money, liberal entitlement, anti establishment types. They always going to be broke dicks and outcasts their whole lives, no point in even giving them attention by arguing with them. It's why they are here.

If you had 1000 random people and separated out the 50 or so who honestly believed that everything should be free and it was ok for them to "share" steal, it would be one scary, weird group of people, most under 25 half of which have probably never been laid.

Lamis 01-26-2011 10:32 PM

torrent sites and file sharing sites still show 1st in google with site links...

millions of hits go to these sites from google.

they aint censoring shit.

baddog 01-26-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 17872293)
torrent sites and file sharing sites still show 1st in google with site links...

millions of hits go to these sites from google.

they aint censoring shit.

Did you read any of it? :helpme

jonnydoe 01-26-2011 11:32 PM

aint is not a word.

Miguel T 01-26-2011 11:33 PM

Great move Google!!!

kevlar1080 01-27-2011 12:59 AM

i think it's a grrreat idea

PromoterX 01-27-2011 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 17872213)
thats where i stopped. :upsidedow

You shouldn't because autocomplete is useful. So useful that sometimes I don't even realize i'm using it... and i've been on the internet before Googles domain was even registered. I'm sure millions of others are also using autocomplete as well, and not even realizing it either.

This is not good news. This is only the first step of more steps to come.. make no mistake, the entertainment industry will stop at nothing to ensure you continue to buy music, using their approved distribution methods, which maximizes profit for them. They couldn't give a rats ass about you.

To that end I haven't bought a CD for myself in years, and I bought HUNDREDS of them like a lot of other people when the technology first came out. After MP3's showed up Napster, that was literally the end of me buying music, and I haven't since then. Do people still pay $25 bucks for a CD? Hilarious. :2 cents:

Archivist 01-27-2011 03:20 AM

google.com/search?q=rapidshare

doesn't appear to be filtering anything

BIGTYMER 01-27-2011 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Archivist (Post 17872529)
google.com/search?q=rapidshare

doesn't appear to be filtering anything

This is only on the live search or whatever they call it. Where you start typing the search term on the home page and it puts up suggestions.

Emil 01-27-2011 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cr4zy1van (Post 17871976)
this is good news for the porn and music industry.

Yeah! I jut bought 4 CDs! Now I just need a CD-player!

Roald 01-27-2011 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17871980)
very old news. not removed from the serps, just instant/autocomplete so who cares? same as porn terms.

exactly, if this is a step in the right direction of G removing them from the SERPS should we start worying about porn being removed too?

Nothing too exciting sofar.

Paul Markham 01-27-2011 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lester Burnham (Post 17872207)
There seems to be a slippery slope issue here. Basically, an industry group pressures a leading search engine to censor certain words. What's next? Now that Google has shown that it is willing to cave to public or private interests, who is to say they don't target other "taboo" subject matter, e.g., porn, guns, etc., etc.

Google isn't a public service, it's a company and those who own it are free to do as they please within the law.

I recently did a poll of people who thought the Internet should be exempt of laws. Most people voted yes.

They have no idea of the slippery slope that would put them on.

ottopottomouse 01-27-2011 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17871980)
very old news. not removed from the serps, just instant/autocomplete so who cares? same as porn terms.

So old I checked the date of the article before reading it :disgust

czarina 01-27-2011 07:45 AM

finally!!

BlackCrayon 01-27-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17872214)
Read it again. All it effects are auto-complete results. Besides, it is their game they can do whatever they want with it.

Slippery slope? Not hardly. Go to Bing if you don't like it.

porn terms are already banned from google instant. not sure about auto complete but i wouldn't be surprised.

gideongallery 01-27-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17872215)
as usual no one reads or understands. nothing was removed from the index. only from google instant.

porn terms have already been removed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17872226)
10, 9, 8, 7 . . .

Gideon should be in here any second now.

no need someone already pointed out how this was old news.

btw if you do a search you will find a thread where i pointed out the auto complete for search terms of popular movies auto completed to torrent

in essense google was directing people who were searching for generic information about the movie, to torrent first, imdb , wiki etc later

this is just stopping that directed action, as long as they don't remove the serp it not censorship, just the elimination of prioritized inducement.

gideongallery 01-27-2011 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17872288)
If you had 1000 random people and separated out the 50 or so who honestly believed that everything should be free and it was ok for them to "share" steal, it would be one scary, weird group of people, most under 25 half of which have probably never been laid.

considering your one of the people who want me to show you "put your shit on the tape cassette" solution for free i find it interesting that you claim i am the one who expects everything to be free.

for the record i have never said that, i have only argued for the fair use right to content to be respected (not being forced to pay twice for the right to view shit)

Barry-xlovecam 01-27-2011 08:13 AM

PR move and shows the CYA that Google's Legal Dept weighed in on.

By doing this Google can say we are not actively promoting illegal filesharing (auto-complete).

Google is still indexing the torrent sites and for a reason ? Google's argument is that "we are like a library, we don't endorse any book but we make it available."

Lassitor 01-27-2011 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester Burnham (Post 17872207)
There seems to be a slippery slope issue here. Basically, an industry group pressures a leading search engine to censor certain words. What's next? Now that Google has shown that it is willing to cave to public or private interests, who is to say they don't target other "taboo" subject matter, e.g., porn, guns, etc., etc.

:thumbsup:2 cents: I tend to agree with Lester. Censorship at first seem like a good idea as a solution to some problems, but in the end it tends to just become the problem itself.

Owner 01-27-2011 11:44 AM

tl;dr...

epitome 01-27-2011 04:03 PM

Is this why I am having a spectacular month?

I will be a very happy guy if every month is like January has shaped up to be.

epitome 01-27-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17872215)
as usual no one reads or understands. nothing was removed from the index. only from google instant.

porn terms have already been removed.

Fuck, I didn't read enough myself.

Eh, still happy this month. Just wish I could say it was because of something like this so I know it's not a fluke.

nikki99 01-27-2011 04:07 PM

good news

Agent 488 01-27-2011 04:08 PM

the replies in this thread are depressing. god help us.

{Psycho} 01-27-2011 07:11 PM

Great news :)

FlexxAeon 01-27-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PromoterX (Post 17872477)
You shouldn't because autocomplete is useful. So useful that sometimes I don't even realize i'm using it... and i've been on the internet before Googles domain was even registered. I'm sure millions of others are also using autocomplete as well, and not even realizing it either....

when autocomplete first came out, porn was automatically omitted.

my traffic didn't budge.

if people want their torrents, one extra keystroke isn't gonna do shit

oh and i was also in the interwebs before google.com was registered. not sure what that means but....yeah :upsidedow

blackmonsters 01-28-2011 11:14 AM

This doesn't do much but at least it's a statement about piracy.

Robbie 01-28-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PromoterX (Post 17872477)
To that end I haven't bought a CD for myself in years, and I bought HUNDREDS of them like a lot of other people when the technology first came out. After MP3's showed up Napster, that was literally the end of me buying music, and I haven't since then. Do people still pay $25 bucks for a CD? Hilarious. :2 cents:

Off to "ignore" you go. Grow up and learn to stop stealing.


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