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Overload 02-08-2011 05:45 AM

USA - you fucking coward ass - shooting people with 30mm gun
 
must feel good shooting reporters and kids eh? :mad:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcu...wikileaks_news

you still ask yourself why ppl dont like america? :2 cents:

Emil 02-08-2011 05:53 AM

You're a couple of months after, but yeah, they're pretty trigger-happy...

ottopottomouse 02-08-2011 06:34 AM

You're a bit fucking easy to dump propaganda into.

AtlantisCash 02-08-2011 06:42 AM

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CaptainHowdy 02-08-2011 06:46 AM

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L-Pink 02-08-2011 06:53 AM

And you think that was the plan when the helicopters took off vs shit happens in a combat zone? Get real.


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2intense 02-08-2011 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17901032)
You're a bit fucking easy to dump propaganda into.

:1orglaugh:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap

marketsmart 02-08-2011 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload (Post 17900954)
must feel good shooting reporters and kids eh? :mad:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcu...wikileaks_news

you still ask yourself why ppl dont like america? :2 cents:

that was great.. :thumbsup

do you have any more of those?

i love to see the USA show its strength...

we need to patrol all of Iraq and Afghanistan with these helicopters and show these people who's boss when they get out of line... :2 cents:






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~Ray 02-08-2011 07:52 AM

hindsight is 20 / 20

FreeHugeMovies 02-08-2011 07:52 AM

Welcome to last YEAR we've been expecting you.

Seth Manson 02-08-2011 08:00 AM

I love the smell of depleted uranium rounds in the morning.

DEA - banned for life 02-08-2011 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload (Post 17900954)
must feel good shooting reporters and kids eh? :mad:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcu...wikileaks_news

you still ask yourself why ppl dont like america? :2 cents:

Calling the whole countyr of USA cowards on a forum from the confines of your home is somewhat cowardice :2 cents:

atleast you will get the views and responses you were looking for by starting this silly thread lol

cooldude7 02-08-2011 08:16 AM

30 mm bullet
 
http://rvtravel.com/blog/rvnow/uploa...let-711123.jpg

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17901032)
You're a bit fucking easy to dump propaganda into.

what part of the video did you feel was propaganda ? the part where they let the kids die ? the part they ran over a body ? or the part they shot unarmed wounded people ?

jimmy-3-way 02-08-2011 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 17901203)
hindsight is 20 / 20

So's a gunsight.

Paul Markham 02-08-2011 08:20 AM

Thankfully these guys would never turn their guns on American citizens armed and rebelling.

Makes me sleep peaceful at night knowing they only do it to foreigners.

DEA - banned for life 02-08-2011 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17901258)
Thankfully these guys would never turn their guns on American citizens armed and rebelling.

Makes me sleep peaceful at night knowing they only do it to foreigners.

i thought you said "rebilling":1orglaugh

hope it doesnt come to that:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

marketsmart 02-08-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17901250)
what part of the video did you feel was propaganda ? the part where they let the kids die ? the part they ran over a body ? or the part they shot unarmed wounded people ?

there's a word for all that...

its called war...

its not pretty, it's not fair, and its usually unnecessary, but it is what it is... :2 cents:





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SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 08:26 AM

some people quickly forget we had no reason to invade iraq and no reason to be there now. Dont you remember the wmd's that never existed ? iraq never attacked americans. There was no threat or ability to attack us.. if you point a gun at someone , YOU are the enemy.

Imagine if iraq or china or israel attacked us based on complete bullshit lies ? i suppose you would accept them as your overlords and do everything they say ?

ottopottomouse 02-08-2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17901250)
what part of the video did you feel was propaganda ? the part where they let the kids die ? the part they ran over a body ? or the part they shot unarmed wounded people ?

The part where it was all annotated with hindsight.

Paul Markham 02-08-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17901273)
some people quickly forget we had no reason to invade iraq and no reason to be there now. Dont you remember the wmd's that never existed ? iraq never attacked americans. There was no threat or ability to attack us.. if you point a gun at someone , YOU are the enemy.

Imagine if iraq or china or israel attacked us based on complete bullshit lies ? i suppose you would accept them as your overlords and do everything they say ?

Bush had a very good reason to invade. It's called money.

He even deluded himself into thinking the Iraqis would ALL welcome the US invaders as liberators.

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17901271)
there's a word for all that...

its called war...

he said it was propaganda not war, and i asked what part ? pretty simple question.

but to get to your point, there are rules for war , the video clearly shows we broke them. besides the fact we never should have been there and the fact we shouldn't be there now. no threat to us whatsoever.

War is when 2 sides agree to "war" , in this case its just ethnic cleansing. there is no army to fight , just confused people not understanding why they are being invaded.


Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17901271)
its not pretty, it's not fair, and its usually unnecessary, but it is what it is... :2 cents:

maybe we should stop :2 cents:

do you have kids ? if one was hit by a car, would you understand if the doctor said "it is what it is , we could help your child but hey , it's an accident , people die "

"it is what it is" is a lame excuse for doing nothing to prevent it.

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17901280)
The part where it was all annotated with hindsight.

totally agree :thumbsup they should have left that part until the end. let the video speak for itself then add in their point of view if they want. those annotations influence your opinion of the video while watching. I totally agree that was lame, but much of the video speaks for itself.

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17901271)
there's a word for all that...

its called war...

its not pretty, it's not fair, and its usually unnecessary, but it is what it is... :2 cents:

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there a word for people who touch little kids

its called child molesting

it's not pretty , it's not fair but using your theory " it is what it is" and there is no reason to do anything to speak out about it , or to stop it.

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 08:53 AM

simple fact is , if we leave iraq today , we wont kill anymore innocent kids and none of our military gets killed. seems like a pretty simple solution..

TheLegacy 02-08-2011 09:21 AM

Anytime civilians die it is sad - adults - moms/dads or children. I personally don't think you or anyone on this board has the right or information to make such a claim against USA much less experience to know in the heat of battle how to react

marketsmart 02-08-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17901302)
he said it was propaganda not war, and i asked what part ? pretty simple question.

but to get to your point, there are rules for war , the video clearly shows we broke them. besides the fact we never should have been there and the fact we shouldn't be there now. no threat to us whatsoever.

War is when 2 sides agree to "war" , in this case its just ethnic cleansing. there is no army to fight , just confused people not understanding why they are being invaded.




maybe we should stop :2 cents:

do you have kids ? if one was hit by a car, would you understand if the doctor said "it is what it is , we could help your child but hey , it's an accident , people die "

"it is what it is" is a lame excuse for doing nothing to prevent it.



i choose not to get emotional about things i cannot control...

this video is nothing compared to the mass killings of people in africa on a daily basis and the US and rest of the world do nothing about it..

and in regards to rules of war... there are no rules in war.. civilized countries hide behind the geneva convention while behind closed doors they violate it..

uncivilized countries dont follow any rules when it comes to warfare..

unless people are willing to stop consuming products from corporations that will do anything to make a profit, you will always have wars and you will always have senseless killing...

so, can i have your commitment to stop supporting corporatism today since you feel so strongly about this?







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cykoe6 02-08-2011 10:17 AM

Very cool video...... nice to see our boys taking care of business...... having said that...... I am pretty sure that this video was released about a year ago and already had about 100 threads dedicated to it.

_Richard_ 02-08-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 17901254)
So's a gunsight.

zingggg g :Oh crap

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 17901449)
I personally don't think you or anyone on this board has the right or information to make such a claim against USA

2 issues the "right" to make a claim and the "information" to make a claim..


i think anyone has the "right" to say whatever they want, if they want to be taken seriously they should probably start with information.

The "claim" in this thread "usa you fucking coward ass" is more of a comment or an outburst than a claim, but i think his point was "american policy is cowardly" , not saying i agree or disagree but i think that is the "point" so no point in quibbling over word use or being offended if you are american. I am american and canadian and i think many of both countries policies are stupid/cowardly/ignorant among other things, doesn't mean i am not proud to be canadian, american, british etc

Rochard 02-08-2011 11:25 AM

Yeah, they were really fucking innocent.

The reason why no one is upset about this is because this group of people were involved in a attack against an Army unit. From the air, ten minutes after a fire fight, it looks like they are just a group of people out for a stroll.

The video clearly points out that two reporters were killed. Sounds horrible on the surface, but the fact that two reporters were with this group proves this group was guilty. In other words, the reporters weren't "with this group by chance"; They were reporting on this group and what they did - and got caught in the cross fire. That's the risk they take. So did two kids. It's called collateral damage, and it's ugly nasty side effect of warfare.

This is what happens when you attack US troops. We fire back. And we have a lot of fucking firepower.

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17901457)
and in regards to rules of war... there are no rules in war..

there are though , legal laws and "unwritten" ones.

we don't castrate prisoners do we ?
Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17901457)
civilized countries hide behind the geneva convention while behind closed doors they violate it..

uncivilized countries dont follow any rules when it comes to warfare..

backwards talk, if behind closed doors they violate them , then they are uncivilized. either every country is uncivilized and follows no rules or some countries follow some rules..

if you agree some countries follow some rules and those countries are better then you agree following the rules makes you a more civilized country , and to commit uncivilized actions make you less of a country then you must agree we need to stop uncivilized things like killing unarmed civilians, murdering wounded enemies, killing medical workers etc etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17901457)
unless people are willing to stop consuming products from corporations that will do anything to make a profit, you will always have wars and you will always have senseless killing...

i haven't seen anything posted to suggest this is true. Make corporations more accountable for their actions.
Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17901457)
so, can i have your commitment to stop supporting corporatism today since you feel so strongly about this?

do i have your commitment to stop eating peanut butter since you feel so strongly about this ?

_Richard_ 02-08-2011 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17901790)
Yeah, they were really fucking innocent.

The reason why no one is upset about this is because this group of people were involved in a attack against an Army unit. From the air, ten minutes after a fire fight, it looks like they are just a group of people out for a stroll.

The video clearly points out that two reporters were killed. Sounds horrible on the surface, but the fact that two reporters were with this group proves this group was guilty. In other words, the reporters weren't "with this group by chance"; They were reporting on this group and what they did - and got caught in the cross fire. That's the risk they take. So did two kids. It's called collateral damage, and it's ugly nasty side effect of warfare.

This is what happens when you attack US troops. We fire back. And we have a lot of fucking firepower.


so what you're saying is Reuters declared war on the US?

makes one wonder why we even bothered with those pesky Geneva Conventions

Sly 02-08-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17901805)
so what you're saying is Reuters declared war on the US?

makes one wonder why we even bothered with those pesky Geneva Conventions

If you spot a reporter, kill everyone within a 20 foot radius. Obviously they all must be terrorists.

Vendzilla 02-08-2011 11:35 AM

Would it have better if they used 10mm guns?

We really need to pull out of those countries and stop being the world police, we can't afford that anymore, never really could

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17901790)
The reason why no one is upset about this is because this group of people were involved in a attack against an Army unit. From the air, ten minutes after a fire fight, it looks like they are just a group of people out for a stroll.

the guys wearing button up shirts and casual attire ? the 2 kids ? the journalists with cameras ?

this is the first i have heard of this , why not simply post the video of the firefight they were involved with , showing the people involved ? how come nobody in the video mentioned this ?




Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17901790)
the fact that two reporters were with this group proves this group was guilty.

:helpme how do you figure ? reuters cameramen are with groups of people all the time, you saying that the white house is all guilty because reuters camermen are there ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17901790)
They were reporting on this group and what they did

i haven't seen anything about what they were reporting on , they died so it's unlikely they told you .. any facts on this ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17901790)
This is what happens when you attack US troops. We fire back. And we have a lot of fucking firepower.

problem is the kids certainly didn't attack US troops , there was no reason for them to die and no evidence i have seen to even say they attacked us troops.

Thats not the way we do things here , not the way we should be doing them there.:2 cents:

you simply don't kill people who do not pose a threat. we don't kill people because of what "might" happen. If we did every time a cop pulled someone over they would shoot them just in case they had a gun.

Besides the fact there is no good reason for us to have invaded or to still be there.

moeloubani 02-08-2011 12:18 PM

I've always said American soldiers were the biggest cowards. I think I started this exact thread a while ago which is weird, with the same video, calling the US soldiers cowards.

theking 02-08-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17901832)
the guys wearing button up shirts and casual attire ? the 2 kids ? the journalists with cameras ?

this is the first i have heard of this , why not simply post the video of the firefight they were involved with , showing the people involved ? how come nobody in the video mentioned this ?





:helpme how do you figure ? reuters cameramen are with groups of people all the time, you saying that the white house is all guilty because reuters camermen are there ?




i haven't seen anything about what they were reporting on , they died so it's unlikely they told you .. any facts on this ?



problem is the kids certainly didn't attack US troops , there was no reason for them to die and no evidence i have seen to even say they attacked us troops.

Thats not the way we do things here , not the way we should be doing them there.:2 cents:

you simply don't kill people who do not pose a threat. we don't kill people because of what "might" happen. If we did every time a cop pulled someone over they would shoot them just in case they had a gun.

Besides the fact there is no good reason for us to have invaded or to still be there.

There were multiple reasons for invading Iraq...and there are multiple reasons to still have troops there...and it is just your opinion that there are not any good reasons.

Troops belonging to Combat Arms were withdrawn several months ago.

CDSmith 02-08-2011 12:29 PM

Easy to play armchair quarterback and second guess motives etc with a video like that.

I'd like to hear first-hand what the soldiers themselves had to say about it before passing judgement, or spewing out sweeping generalizations.

But that's just me. I like to get the full story before calling out a country for cowardice.

papill0n 02-08-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17901271)
there's a word for all that...

its called war...

its not pretty, it's not fair, and its usually unnecessary, but it is what it is... :2 cents:





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yeah youre right

thats exactly what they are saying about 9-11

theking 02-08-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 17901935)
Easy to play armchair quarterback and second guess motives etc with a video like that.

I'd like to hear first-hand what the soldiers themselves had to say about it before passing judgement, or spewing out sweeping generalizations.

But that's just me. I like to get the full story before calling out a country for cowardice.

Once again you display your good common sense...an apparent rare thing among your fellow Canadians...at least the ones on this board.

I can tell you...having engaged in combat myself...on multiple occasions...that they followed their rules of engagement (as can be heard on the video) but I am sure that they are sadden about the loss of the children...but will not lose any more sleep over the engagement than thousands of other soldiers that have engaged in combat operations. Engaging in combat is not a pleasant experience.

_Richard_ 02-08-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17901814)
If you spot a reporter, kill everyone within a 20 foot radius. Obviously they all must be terrorists.

sarcasm aside, how did the US/Iraq military take into account reporters with body guards? Considering what was going on at the time, it's hard to figure out the logic of that Gunner about a bunch of insurgents walking through a square in broad daylight with choppers and military bearing down on them

it's not like helicopters are quiet.

webair 02-08-2011 12:55 PM

Yea the guy pointing the RPG at them had no bearing what so ever as to their decision to fire.

Conngrats on 2k posts!

EZRhino 02-08-2011 12:57 PM

War sucks. I would like to see a honset investigation about what happened there. But at the end of the day what fucking idiot brings their kids to a impact area. I dont give a fuck if it was for humanitarian reasons. Leave the fucking kids at home.

EZRhino 02-08-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17901968)
sarcasm aside, how did the US/Iraq military take into account reporters with body guards? Considering what was going on at the time, it's hard to figure out the logic of that Gunner about a bunch of insurgents walking through a square in broad daylight with choppers and military bearing down on them

it's not like helicopters are quiet.

When you are in a place with a lot of helicopter air traffic its really easy to block out the sound but in real life those Apache choppers can really sneak up on you quick. And the stand off distance is pretty far. They would be usuless if the enemy can see them coming.

_Richard_ 02-08-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17901999)
When you are in a place with a lot of helicopter air traffic its really easy to block out the sound but in real life those Apache choppers can really sneak up on you quick. And the stand off distance is pretty far. They would be usuless if the enemy can see them coming.

the air traffic is a good point.

Again, all that is very reasonable but kinda backs up what i am saying. If one wants to be an insurgent for any longer than a day, they'd know that, wouldn't they?

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17901915)
There were multiple reasons for invading Iraq...and there are multiple reasons to still have troops there...and it is just your opinion that there are not any good reasons.

well lets hear some..


Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17901915)
Troops belonging to Combat Arms were withdrawn several months ago.

are americans still dying ? yes
are iraqis still being killed by americans ? yes

how many americans will be killed by iraqis if there are none there ? 0
how many iraqis will be killed by americans if we aren't there ? 0

Vendzilla 02-08-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17901993)
But at the end of the day what fucking idiot brings their kids to a impact area.

They do that so we can debate it later and someone can call them names?

SmokeyTheBear 02-08-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17901993)
War sucks. I would like to see a honset investigation about what happened there. But at the end of the day what fucking idiot brings their kids to a impact area. I dont give a fuck if it was for humanitarian reasons. Leave the fucking kids at home.

maybe that is their house and they just arrived home to find their neighbors wounded and dying :2 cents:

EZRhino 02-08-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17902083)
maybe that is their house and they just arrived home to find their neighbors wounded and dying :2 cents:

Its possible. That would be some of the worste timing, ever.


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