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Choker 04-19-2011 01:45 PM

Calling all Cam Sites-Do you have the balls?
 
I'm in a shit stirring mood so here goes.

I challenge all cam sites, especially the ones that always post here how great thier site converts. Here's the deal:

I will send 100k US,UK,CA,AU traffic to your site as a affiliate. There's no cost to you so the only excuse for not participating in this is that your site converts for shit.

To keep this fair and unbiased, someone else will signup for your program, so you won't know its me. This will be a new account.

When I get 5 cam sites onboard the traffic will start, all 5 sites will get the exact same traffic at the exact same time, so no excuses about day or time of day. In fact if I send a surfer to the first cam site today, he will not be sent to another cam for another 30 days. So your not gonna get the same recycled surfers.

I will post results in this thread. I ask that the cam sites that have the balls post here in this thread, as soon as 5 come forward I will begin the test. I also ask that you post here your best converting landing page, as once the test begins I will not change the landing page for any reason whatsoever. I'm going out on a limb here and putting my own money out there. So again, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS TEST.

PornoMonster 04-19-2011 01:47 PM

interesting,
one thing you going to do PPS or revshare?

fatfoo 04-19-2011 01:48 PM

There should be many conversions from 100K traffic. There will be even more free signups than paid signups. Some cam sites offer free signups as well as paid.

- LOL - 04-19-2011 01:49 PM

a challenger appears

PornoMonster 04-19-2011 01:50 PM

I guess you could just post ALL Stats and let people decide what is best for them.

Choker 04-19-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18070696)
interesting,
one thing you going to do PPS or revshare?

Good question, if I do pps the losers will say revshare makes more with them, and if I do Revshare the losers will say PPS does better with them. How about if the cam sites that post here that they want to participate choose pps or revshare themself?

goldassets 04-19-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 18070701)
There should be many conversions from 100K traffic. There will be even more free signups than paid signups. Some cam sites offer free signups as well as paid.

Adding you to ignore since you're obviously fucking retarded.

Agent 488 04-19-2011 01:52 PM

why would they risk their rep on what might be garbage traffic? seems like a lose-lose.

Klen 04-19-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldassets (Post 18070720)
Adding you to ignore since you're obviously fucking retarded.

You must be new here :1orglaugh

- LOL - 04-19-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldassets (Post 18070720)
Adding you to ignore since you're obviously fucking retarded.

you must be new here ...

TeenCat 04-19-2011 02:06 PM

nice move man, even if it will be garbage traffic, with 100k there have to be some sales, so no excuse for sponsors, its not about how is ratio, but about who can get the best of it, go play master :thumbsup

will76 04-19-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18070712)
Good question, if I do pps the losers will say revshare makes more with them, and if I do Revshare the losers will say PPS does better with them. How about if the cam sites that post here that they want to participate choose pps or revshare themself?

If you want to compare them, then it doesn't matter which you do PPS or Revshare, just as long as you do the same for all 5. Although, I do think PPS would be more accurate. It just takes getting lucky and getting one whale on one of the five sites and that is going to skew your stats and make that one program look better then the rest when all it was, was the lucky one that landed the whale. I'd do PPS, that is just based off of how well the site gets people to do an initial join and purchase.

Why make the cam sites post that they want to be included. All cam sites are going to say they convert the best and will make you the most money. Just pick the 5 biggest. If you need I will suggest 5 for you to try and would be curious to see your results.

dyna mo 04-19-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18070712)
Good question, if I do pps the losers will say revshare makes more with them, and if I do Revshare the losers will say PPS does better with them. How about if the cam sites that post here that they want to participate choose pps or revshare themself?

perhaps split the traffic up such that 1/2 is rs and 1/2 is pps for each site?

MyCamProfile 04-19-2011 02:11 PM

Site URL: http://www.mycamprofile.com/
Affiliate Signup page: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?346731
Landing page: Homepage

Agent 488 04-19-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyCamProfile (Post 18070794)
Site URL: http://www.mycamprofile.com/
Affiliate Signup page: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?346731
Landing page: Homepage

game on.

will76 04-19-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18070788)
perhaps split the traffic up such that 1/2 is rs and 1/2 is pps for each site?

for a limited test, over short period of time... it should be PPS.

If Site C gets lucky and gets a whale who spends 20K (likely would have spent 20K on any of the top 5 cam sites since they all would have quality girls and decent system) then it would look like one site was 1000x times better than the rest, when it was just pure luck of the draw. You can't skew the stats with PPS.

Choker 04-19-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18070798)
for a limited test, over short period of time... it should be PPS.

If Site C gets lucky and gets a whale who spends 20K (likely would have spent 20K on any of the top 5 cam sites since they all would have quality girls and decent system) then it would look like one site was 1000x times better than the rest, when it was just pure luck of the draw. You can't skew the stats with PPS.

Once again, you are right. Happy now?

FlexxAeon 04-19-2011 02:14 PM

blah too slow lol

Choker 04-19-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 18070777)
nice move man, even if it will be garbage traffic, with 100k there have to be some sales, so no excuse for sponsors, its not about how is ratio, but about who can get the best of it, go play master :thumbsup

The cam sites that are buying the $5 per niche traffic from me are making a profit, for this test I'll send the $3 which is much lower quality, however as each site will get the exact same traffic and 100k is more than enough to get results, then this will be as accurate as you can get on a test like this. Of course there will be shitheads that will claim its not fair but they wont come up with a test themself will they?

dyna mo 04-19-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18070798)
for a limited test, over short period of time... it should be PPS.

If Site C gets lucky and gets a whale who spends 20K (likely would have spent 20K on any of the top 5 cam sites since they all would have quality girls and decent system) then it would look like one site was 1000x times better than the rest, when it was just pure luck of the draw. You can't skew the stats with PPS.

makes sense. what about counting # of transactions? just throwing shit out there btw. :)

Choker 04-19-2011 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18070781)
Why make the cam sites post that they want to be included. All cam sites are going to say they convert the best and will make you the most money. Just pick the 5 biggest. If you need I will suggest 5 for you to try and would be curious to see your results.

The 5 biggest already buy from me and have no need to participate in this. This is aimed more at the cam sites that convert great but few people know of them.

sarettah 04-19-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18070712)
Good question, if I do pps the losers will say revshare makes more with them, and if I do Revshare the losers will say PPS does better with them. How about if the cam sites that post here that they want to participate choose pps or revshare themself?

A/B split the traffic. Half to rev and half to pps.

edited in: ooops, see someone already suggested that... Gotta read the fucking whole thread first.

more edited in: You do know that cam_girls is gonna try to jump in, don't you? ;p

Choker 04-19-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 18070878)
A/B split the traffic. Half to rev and half to pps.

edited in: ooops, see someone already suggested that... Gotta read the fucking whole thread first.

more edited in: You do know that cam_girls is gonna try to jump in, don't you? ;p

Well let me make a new rule right now, no white,black,orange,or purple labels lol, Seriously though no need for whitelabel sites for this.

Nicky 04-19-2011 02:40 PM

Bump, waiting for cam_girls

MyCamProfile 04-19-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18070910)
Well let me make a new rule right now, no white,black,orange,or purple labels lol, Seriously though no need for whitelabel sites for this.

Well I'm out then.. my bad.

Choker 04-19-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyCamProfile (Post 18070926)
Well I'm out then.. my bad.

Ah your site is a whitelabel of streamate?

$5 submissions 04-19-2011 02:44 PM

Is this traffic craigslist/backlinks/kijiji traffic or yahoo chat traffic or tube-based traffic? Should be interesting to see how those 3 traffic sources compare in conversions among the 5 cam program participants. Maybe even throw in 3 new sources of blackhat (but non-bot captured) traffic.... That would be a nice comparison graphic for the forum to see.

MyCamProfile 04-19-2011 02:44 PM

Yep. Three different affiliates actually, so they have plenty of options. Converts well though :)

goldassets 04-19-2011 02:46 PM

lol @ the whitelabel newbies

ottopottomouse 04-19-2011 02:48 PM

How long are you giving the revshare before drawing a line under the total?

Choker 04-19-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyCamProfile (Post 18070937)
Yep. Three different affiliates actually, so they have plenty of options. Converts well though :)

So from your site you have girls from 3 different programs? Every week a new cam site that has maybe 4 girls online at the same time wants to buy traffic, I always tell them to use iframes and put thumbs from affiliate cam sites under their online girls thumbs so if they dont have enough girls online at least they can get signups and get paid. So your site takes this to the next level?

Choker 04-19-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18070951)
How long are you giving the revshare before drawing a line under the total?

Well most seem to think for this test we should stick to PPS. From what I hear most affiiates prefer pps nowadays anyway.

MyCamProfile 04-19-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18070952)
So from your site you have girls from 3 different programs? Every week a new cam site that has maybe 4 girls online at the same time wants to buy traffic, I always tell them to use iframes and put thumbs from affiliate cam sites under their online girls thumbs so if they dont have enough girls online at least they can get signups and get paid. So your site takes this to the next level?

Yes, that's the idea. Also in-case a customer is already a member of one of the new cam sites I am promoting they have more options instead of just 1 site.. and of course they have the option of creating a profile on my network and interacting with said performers and requesting custom video's, view their latest tweet's, seeing what cam sites they are apart of, becoming a recruiter, etc.

AmeliaG 04-19-2011 03:43 PM

That is a very cool idea, Choker. I'll be interested to see the results. I think that having the programs specify whether you should test PPS or revshare would be the best test.

Django 04-19-2011 04:19 PM

Great thread?

IllTestYourGirls 04-19-2011 04:27 PM

You should give it some time to allow it to convert as well. Many free sign ups wont buy for awhile and some sponsors are better at getting that free sign up to actually buy 1 or 2 months from now than others.

will76 04-19-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 18071102)
That is a very cool idea, Choker. I'll be interested to see the results. I think that having the programs specify whether you should test PPS or revshare would be the best test.

then the ones that select PPS would look 100x better, but given the option none of them would select revshare since you make your money back over a LONG period of time, not a short test. :2 cents:

moeloubani 04-19-2011 04:33 PM

I'm going to donate all the money I have to hungry children around the world. I'm gonna do it I swear I have the money right here. Just need 5 hungry children that have the balls to take my money come here and say they need it.

??? Just do it and show results, why do you need permission to do something?

IllTestYourGirls 04-19-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18071218)
I'm going to donate all the money I have to hungry children around the world. I'm gonna do it I swear I have the money right here. Just need 5 hungry children that have the balls to take my money come here and say they need it.

??? Just do it and show results, why do you need permission to do something?

My guess is because he has a little business sense and does not want to piss off people who are already buying traffic from him or possible future buyers?

helterskelter808 04-19-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyCamProfile (Post 18070965)
Yes, that's the idea. Also in-case a customer is already a member of one of the new cam sites I am promoting they have more options instead of just 1 site..

Not quite the white label that you claim to have.

Quote:

and of course they have the option of creating a profile on my network and interacting with said performers and requesting custom video's, view their latest tweet's, seeing what cam sites they are apart of, becoming a recruiter, etc.
Can you explain how someone can "interact" with models on your site when they are actually performers on other, real actual, cam sites?

The "webcam models" on your site (as opposed to the iframes from real third party cam sites) are transparently fake. Eg, Kilma a "Popular webcam model" on your front page:

mycamprofile.com/profile/206/Kilma.html

Not only two complely different people, but two completely different races! :1orglaugh

And neither of which I'd say is "Indian", like the made up description says.

Choker 04-19-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyCamProfile (Post 18070965)
Yes, that's the idea. Also in-case a customer is already a member of one of the new cam sites I am promoting they have more options instead of just 1 site.. and of course they have the option of creating a profile on my network and interacting with said performers and requesting custom video's, view their latest tweet's, seeing what cam sites they are apart of, becoming a recruiter, etc.

Well one question, if I send traffic as a affiliate do I get paid for signups on the adds on the site?

Traffic Guru 04-19-2011 07:11 PM

Choker,
Have you tried http://www.free-cams.co.uk ?
I hear it converts madly.

Choker 04-19-2011 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traffic Guru (Post 18071517)
Choker,
Have you tried http://www.free-cams.co.uk ?
I hear it converts madly.

Where's the Magic enter link? It must convert so great that he hides the entire site because his servers can't handle all the traffic.

TeenCat 04-19-2011 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traffic Guru (Post 18071517)
Choker,
Have you tried http://www.free-cams.co.uk ?
I hear it converts madly.

yes this one is putting cams to another level ... :) ratios 1:-2

DBS.US 04-19-2011 07:21 PM

Great idea, but I would have done it in secret.

cherrylula 04-19-2011 07:22 PM

I love Choker threads, especially these kind. haha

carzygirls 04-19-2011 08:48 PM

why not just sign up to 5 different sponsors and post your own results. Why do they need to be on board?

vyper88 04-19-2011 08:55 PM

2 words for you choker- MAD KRUNT!

MyCamProfile 04-19-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18071294)
Not quite the white label that you claim to have.



Can you explain how someone can "interact" with models on your site when they are actually performers on other, real actual, cam sites?

The "webcam models" on your site (as opposed to the iframes from real third party cam sites) are transparently fake. Eg, Kilma a "Popular webcam model" on your front page:

mycamprofile.com/profile/206/Kilma.html

Not only two complely different people, but two completely different races! :1orglaugh

And neither of which I'd say is "Indian", like the made up description says.

There is a built-in message system for customers to interact with webcam performer's. In the models profile they have their special links linking to their webcam show's. Yes, they are only 3rd party i-frames. I should of mentioned that.

The profile for Kilma is actually my web developers test page prior to launch of the website. I can assure you that everyone else is real.

MyCamProfile 04-19-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18071507)
Well one question, if I send traffic as a affiliate do I get paid for signups on the adds on the site?

You will get paid for agent recruits, webcam model recruits, and i-frame affiliate PPS joins. There is also a bonus for the rest of this, and next month of $50 per sign-up of each model that works 5 hours. So definitely some money to be made :thumbsup


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