LIVE CAM & GFY... why is it so painful to ask anything these days...
 

Its bad news... Its painful how Im feeling very anxious about posting this thread, wanting not for this thread to turn into a junk yard & to stay on topic.

Im opening a studio in Bournemouth, The lease has finally come through. Ahead of me, lots of work, building sound proof walls from the plans I have drawn, computors, lighting, staff & models, the website & platforms, then comes the advertising & marketing, finally the affiliates to sell to the last touch, the surfers.

This costing near on $20k maybe more, without the website & licence for the cam platforms, So I am interested in only professional & postive ideas, as this is not childsplay!

Im going to need some serious answers & links of people that can help, i.e cam licence platforms, how the marketing works & who is best for the marketing & traffic, lots of serious affiliates & positive ideas to make this work. I cant be bothered with negative remarks when spending this kind of money not just time to waste.

The studio is all accepted by the city council & the work is about to start, over the next few weeks I shall be searching "only" good looking girls to work in the live cam rooms, once opening, the website can go online.

Our website is to be slightly different from others, maybe feeds to other sites, but for our affiliates, we are planning a complete makeover on all our websites, so membership to one is membership to all.

We shall only have 4 girls online at the very same time sometimes 5, with 5 studios, allowing a 1 girl changeover between the models. With 20 or 30 models on our books, there are plenty of girls to choose from on a working rota. We are building a wet room cam, a gym workout cam, a poledancing cam, a standard bed cam & the main studio cam. Our live cams shall be running at 1mb uplink.

Please can you give your comments to my main question first, would I seriously be best to give the models a straight feed into myfreecams & forget our own website, considering they can make hundreds an hour, especially being in a nice, bright, clean & hygenic studio. Or shall I take the gamble & risk to go straight for our own camsite relying on affiliates &, well basically you guys to make it work.

yes yes yes

4girls isn't going to cut it for your own site, so I would have them work other sites.

I was thinking 20 or 30 models all listed on the tour page, all with clip previews of a minute etc... this links straight to a page with 4 cams, running realtime, ability to speak to the model or type to the model, with only a minute of time allowed before clicking to payment screen... 4 cams constantly running, 4 great looking birds due to 20 to 30 birds available, 4 different scenarios...

Im hoping that the models want their own websites that shall have solo, boy girl, bukkake & maybe gangbang content available to watch on the camshows or film footage if people miss the cams.

Would this idea & concept not sell, especially if you instantly become a member of 20 other websites at the same time?

Hi AWC,

Here's my suggestions:

First, pickup one of our software licenses : http://www.2Much.net. Long story short, it will let you broadcast your models to your own site + other websites at the same time, charge anything you want per minute, and use your own CCBill, Segpay, Epoch or Merchant accounts. If you use CCBill, setup a simple affiliate page and link to it.

Here's a screenshot of the LiveCamNetwork 4.5 Administrator program:

http://www.2much.net/images/newadmin-screenshot-600.jpg

Next, contact Ero-Advertising.com, Juicy ads, Orgasm.com and a couple of others to buy some advertising. No need to spend alot of money up front. Buy slow, use Google Analytics to monitor everything.

Finally, take advantage of our mbase system to add more models to your site, and to bring more chatters to your model's rooms while you build your customer base from the advertising companies suggested above.

You can have everything set up in only about 4 days, and begin generating revenue right away.

If you would like to know more or see a demo of the administrator program please let me know.

Congratulations on your new studio!

Ok Mark, nice one.. am I right in thinking that our live cam platforms show in other websites & your own? Who makes the money from the other sites that the cam model is shown on?

Hi again,

To clarify, your models would appear on your website of course as well as on LiveCamNetwork.com (as long as they are female, 18 to 28, cute, fun, talkative, etc).

Here's how it works.

First, you set a Retail price for your models on your own website. Your end users (customers of your own site), pay that price. For example, $5.00 per minute.

Next, you set Whoesale prices for the very same models. The wholesale price is the price you want to charge other websites to display your models. For example, $2.50 per minute. This is called Mbase.

This lets other websites mark-up your $2.50 price to whatever they want to sell for ($5.00 for example). This way, they make their money and you make yours.

Using Mbase is optional. You can turn it on and off as often as you like or use it only for certain models. You need volume to make decent money with mbase so we prefer to sell it as a way to help get you started as opposed to telling customers to rely on it. As each participating site has control over their own prices and which models use mbase, volume fluctuates greatly. However our own LiveCamNetwork.com site bought and sold over $13,000 worth of minutes though it in May alone so it's definitely useful.

I will be available later this afternoon if you would like to take a look.

Cheers!

I see how that can work with the volume, obviously for a huge traffic site, to get a smaller cut than with there own models, yet, the model can also make a lot of money being displayed on many websites...

May I ask, how many sites use the mbase? How many websites would each model be seen on & can the models communicate with everyone that logs on to them from every website?

Can I stream to myfreecams & your database platforms?

That is correct.

Each site owner can pick and choose which models from mbase he wants to have appear on his site. For example, we will add your model to our demo site, LiveCamNetwork.com, if she's between 18 to 28, cute, fun, talkative & charming. I'm personally less interested in girls outside of this range as they tend not to sell as well. Canadian & North American girls are a huge plus. Girls from the Philippines are not. Other sites have just men, others feature only mature / milf / bbw. BBW sites will only add BBW's.

That is correct.

No. There's no connection of any kind offered to mfc.

You getting back to being a cam model ?:winkwink:

The model obviously can see what the viewer is typing, So if i'm correct, the websites that show the mbase, showing my model (a), clicks to connect with this model, the viewer automatically links into the models platform, or does the viewer connect with the website using the mbase?

Also, looking at your site, for the enterprise system, I take it, I would need. Am I restricted to only 10 models & can we do something about the monthly payments as I feel I would rather buy a system & be done with this.

I would advise you to just run the studio and sign up with a big program that has traffic. This is the most effective way for you to generate revenue for yourself and your girls.

Sounds pretty much that this could be the way I run the studio using Marks program from 2much.

Its hard knowing how Im going to set it all up from the start. Especially with the problem of finding all the models to have the studio running 24/7. The UK is a strange place, especially here in the south of the UK... so many of the girls rather escort than livecam, they feel less on show :helpme

I have more research to do, but already now, with lots to get on with & sort out. Thanks to all that has given advice, & juicy, ill be in touch concerning the advertising :thumbsup

Put them on a big cam network with big traffic :2 cents:

Unless you have crazy traffic to support them, they will leave your sorry ass studio in 2 days, maybe 1.

I'll let you in a little secret now it's 2011. Sometimes your making more working for someone else. Play your cards right using a referral account to refer then getting the payments for your models then taking part in their payments. You can actually make more with your future studio running on someone else's site compared to starting your own and selling for yourself. :)

I agree with not needing my own website, I just need to know that I can provide models with a "work immediate" operation, so they can start work immediately.... even providing access for the models to be able to come to the studio & see if they make it work for the day.

Maybe working on other cam sites could work better....? :thumbsup

Its difficult to say whats going to work best, I just know im putting lots of money into this, Ive paid out a few grand today just for materials to set up sound proof walls. Plastering & decoration next, Computors & advertising finally.

I may hold off this thread for a cpl of weeks while construction goes on, It was nice to see how I can get the livecam models online :2 cents:

Nice one on getting the council to allow it :thumbsup

Heres an idea about getting some girls might work might not, You have heard of adultwork.co.uk there are a crap load of cammers on that site Sign up for a free account and get talking to them :)

I keep saying this but I am gonna have to come down and see you some time

All the best with the studio :thumbsup

Mate, nice one & thanks! I have spoke to a few girls from AW, most at present are doing other things or some are not appropriate for this studio... Im not trying to be an a$$, but after our site southerncumsluts.. I must, I have made a definate note in my brain, must, only have very hot girls :thumbsup

Halfpint, youre welcome anytime, our home is always open to friends staying & enjoying a whole pint, pardon the pun :winkwink: But most definatly, come & enjoy a few beers, stay the night & enjoy some very relaxed fun chat & chill time with my good self & Natalie :thumbsup

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I would definitely recommend adding LiveCamNetworks half dozen live models to your studio to reduce the bounce rate from having too few live models.

Then if you expand to a 20 live perfomer studio you have the flexiblity to drop LCN's live feeds and promote just your own studio.


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I would kind of agree with this but there are benefits to doing both.

http://webcam4money.com sign up as a large studio and your models will get the benefits of 15 years of experience driving customers to them.

Then I can help you promote them

Why thank you CG, that is exactly right!

:) :) :)

Cheers!

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don't put your girls on mfc, they are not going to make any money and they will be pissed off with the webcam business after 5 days.... They will think that all viewers wants free tits... no fun for the girls trust me...

we pay between 40 and 80% of your users spendings
Our girls do NOT have to do any free chat
Only quality traffic (check on some chathosts boards what they think about Camcontacts....)

http://www.camcontacts.com/chathost/newchathostreg.html

if you need help, contact in sig

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Cant see why filling a garden shed full of old dogs like this wont be a winner :thumbsup:thumbsup:1orglaugh

If you think the council has allowed it, you are as stupid as he is ... oh wait.... never mind

desperate much for a free shag? seriously just rent the whore its only £50

People who cant make money in adult but carry on just to try and get some free pussy are the saddest humans alive

why dont you go back to what ever shitty new job you have and leave gfy to those actually in the industry

you are a sad pathetic desperate loser :thumbsup

To answer your main question: yes, start by having your models work on existing sites like ifriends, streamates, etc. It's your only option. ( I agree MFC is not a good place to start for a new cam girl.) Your own "Cam site" isn't going to be built over the weekend and launched the day your girls arrive nor does it sound like you even started thinking about traffic, which was last on your "to do" list above.

Now my advice to you, stop. Stop spending money, getting leases, building a studio etc, until you know what you getting yourself into. You have no idea. The questions you are asking above are information you should have researched months before you even think about trying to do something like this not AFTER you signed the lease and committed yourself to a 20K investment. You should be testing out of your home, have the girls you know the best start working on other cam sites out of your home. See how that goes, that they are making good money, work out the kinks, etc. Try running some ads and see what kind of response you get, worst thing you want to do is set up a studio and then realize, oh shit it's harder then I thought to get talent in here. Experiment with generating traffic as an affiliate to other cam sites.

You don't realize it but you jumping in blind without a parachute, which is cool and all if you don't mind wasting your time and money. But if you want a better chance at success, slow down and do it right, no need to risk blowing your money and time if you don't have to.

Mark, I like you but that is terrible, self serving advice, and spamy. Every time someone makes any webcam related post you tell them the first thing they should do is buy your license. He doesn't even have girls hired yet and he has no clue what he is getting himself into, no traffic and doesn't even know if he is going to start with his own site, yet the "first" thing he should do is buy your software. :disgust and you wonder why you have so many disgruntled noobs pissed off at you.

Same thing goes with most of the other responses in here. He didn't ask for "hey spam your services to me" the guy asked for advice. All you assholes here want to do is try to make a sale, which is fine, but if someone is asking for advice and your response is going to be self serving, then just skip the thread.

AWC, last bit of advice.... the guy above is not who you should be taking any advice from. :2 cents:

Will he's making a WEBSITE not a imlive.com STUDIO

No one has to go to college to get a camgirls site running, he's not starting with $0 working his way up in the mysterious Sexperts only "remember to buy traffic" guru advice arena.

You're a frickin camboy who doesn't know the difference between income, profit and revenue and conned people that you made $7,000,000 when you admitted you have no money to make a camgirls site, despite conning everyone you're a expert at them.

Stick to your dodgy life insurance sales routine.

If you decide to start your models on a large site first, I happen to know a few...:winkwink: I can also help you with setting up your own site with your models, but without the costs of running it. Hit me up if interested. Good luck anyways!

Lollington lol.

google gspotcash

my critique is above the actual site

lol

I love the cam biz.. that is all....

I consider this script to be the best put there, I did hours if not days of research into other scripts that do the same thing as this script is by far the best, my client initially had a budget of less than $1000 for a entire cam site + design, this script sold itsself and immediatly encouraged my client to up his budget well into the thousands. GREAT SCRIPT and mark is a great guy and eays to deal with!

I love you, that is all

I love your humour, that is all

20k is peanuts ( i know for sure ) Good luck with that

Marcus, I would be very happy with some help with setting the business up. Ill hit you up over the next few days, Im pretty busy at the moment with sorting out the ... thanks loads.

says the homeless guy living in the park... who owns no website and has his domain in pawn. Thanks for sharing your advice, your previous experiences are proof that you are an expert in this field.


P.S. I know you are delusional, the son of god, and all of that, but I am curious where you get this "life insurance sales" stuff? did you flip to a page on a book and it told you?

He's right you know!!
And the first 3 gspotcash.net links are dead

infact.... all your sites are down for me.... strange

Yes, they are. I've done a PSA for him.

pay your models %50

Just take whatever money you were planning to spend on this project and flush it down the toilet. At least you'll save yourself the time.

hmmm, we noticed that :(

They all went down for about 10mins :(

Alls good now, thanks :)

I spoke to Mark, to be honest, he is a decent fella, un pushy & very helpful. He has recommended webcams for installation & different products, yes, maybe his own, but with the opportunity to get my models immediatly viewed on his platforms.
It maybe, I leave the website & platform program for a few months, hiring more models over the coming weeks, then finally when 20 models are on the books, secure in high quality feeds from our studio to other websites, I can follow through to our own site & platform.

??? Its a live cam studio we are opening.
Its important I take my time & get it right.

Actually the viewer lands on a chat room page on your site - regardless of whether the performer is actually registered on your site or another site using our platform, they just look like they're yours.


You absolutely are not restricted to 10 models - you can have as many as you can support in studio space and hardware, plus as many as you can get to register from home, plus all the models from MBase that suit your niche or conversion standards (you don't have to take low- or no- conversion models from MBase or anyone who you don't want).

:D

Ok good luck with that. Please post back your results, love to see how it will work out for you.

I would advice do not take advices from who have not run cam studios and/or cam sites.

But also, be careful that who sell cam platforms may be optimist so you buy it. I not meant this happens for sure or for Mark, but I ensure you I talked with other cam platform sellers who in honesty laugh at their main biz being selling licenses to guys who sure will fail and they know it while selling the license.

Finally, who run a cam site (like me) may be not happy to help really a competitor more then a certain degree, so being silent or tell half data. Or if you're just a studio, may simply say please signup to our site, and you're added to 1000 other models at the bottom of the list.
Said so, here my advices:

1) NO: Your cam site with your own traffic. It needs 100+ models and half million dollar in advertising to kick start so the models get continuous private chats so they keep working instead of return doing escort or else. In other recent thread it was said it is required a million dollar, I experienced it is enough a little less, but not $10k or even $50k "only".

2) YES: Put your girls in sites using their traffic. But these will be in bottom of page with other 1000 ones, some of which from poor countries and happy to make $10 a day. So ask the sites some special deal because you're UK studio so different, ask you're put in top of the page or some priority over the 100's others, or volume you get will be lower then your models expectations. The traffic of a site not matters, it matters traffic per model, for example first page myfreecams girls make $10,000's per month, while ones in 3rd or 4th page hardly make the $1000a month and those in later pages make cents - and it is same site. I can not offer you this on my site(s) so I don't advice you to register on my site(s), to be honest.

3) Studio: the studios cost a lot to keep up, and looks as studios to users. Lots of studios converted their rooms into bedroom-like so the girls seem at own home - or just setup the cam , lights etc. at home of models (unless they live with parents or full of kids popping in the cam). So they don't pay any rent or bills, only get the % from girl's accounts - maybe they pay the girl internet bill too, as 800kbps true upstream may cost more then a girl may think she want to pay as ISP.

Oh well I said cam site guys don't want help others, maybe I told you lots of bullshit.