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The Porn Nerd 07-12-2011 11:32 AM

What Do I Need To Start a Tube Site?
 
How many videos to start with?
What script?
How much $$$ should be spent on feeder traffic/advertising?
What type of "realistic" traffic could I expect?

Tell me what I need to do.
Is it even worth it these days?
My idea is fairly unqiue....

Thanks everyone!
Advice appreciated. :)

Lace 07-12-2011 11:40 AM

Why would it cost anything? Just get a nulled script, steal videos and then use blackhat techniques and spam social media sites to get your traffic. It's what all the cool kids are doing.

CaptainHowdy 07-12-2011 11:45 AM

For starters? A parrot and an eyepatch ...

troncarver 07-12-2011 11:46 AM

i would start with 75 of Private Media Groups finest videos for your content

martinsc 07-12-2011 11:49 AM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/18/tube_cat.jpg

LeRoy 07-12-2011 12:06 PM

If I were you I'd register http://mrpeabodytube.com :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 07-12-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 18277063)
If I were you I'd register http://mrpeabodytube.com :2 cents:

LOL Thanks LeRoy - I almost did! But I have a better idea for this tube than that URL. :)

How much $$$ should I invest in this thing people? I ain't no illegal scraper. LOL

Adam X 07-12-2011 12:24 PM

Konrads Mechbunny is a good script.. I had him customize it for me and he did good work.

Theres a built in scraper.

Keep it legal... if thats even possible with a scraper.

Good luck.

PornStarToys 07-12-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18277104)
How much $$$ should I invest in this thing people?

http://api.ning.com/files/Amt7IJYWDO...as_Dr_Evil.jpg

2intense 07-12-2011 12:25 PM

1.Money
2.Money
3.Money

signupdamnit 07-12-2011 12:27 PM

Not to be a smart ass but if you don't know you'd be better off paying someone to help you get started for the first couple months.

Videos to start, the more the better but at least have a few thousand.
Script, For a large tube I would probably go with Mechbunny but others are good too.
Feeder and advertising, definitely see first paragraph. And it will depend on what your goals and budget is.
Realistic traffic, it all depends. It's like asking how much traffic a paysite should expect. You know how that goes. :)

If your idea is fairly unique no one will know whether it's worth it or not. You can start a tube site for next to nothing on the cheap though so it's probably worth a shot. But like I said if you have no experience and your goals are big it's probably worth a few hundred or thousand to get someone with experience to help you get started on the right track.

SteveHardeman 07-12-2011 12:28 PM

You have a unique idea or you were kidding? I'll reply as if you were kidding.

Why would anyone leave youporn to go to your tube? That's the question I'd ask myself. And then code and design from there. If you just throw up some vids and throw misc traffic at it I think you'll be wasting time and money.

What can you do to make it faster? More interactive? More targeted vids to targeted surfers? More fun? What can I do to make people bookmark me and eventually make me number 1 and maybe even buy something every once in awhile? If you have the time and resources to sink into something like that, it MIGHT be worthwhile. Otherwise, I'd go with the quantity over quality approach and start 200 shitty cookie cutter tubes.

Where the 2cents button?

Agent 488 07-12-2011 12:33 PM

the tube with the most amount of full vids wins. that's what surfers prefer.

Paul Markham 07-12-2011 12:34 PM

How much does a time machine cost?

That's the starting point if you want to make money. Otherwise your idea had better be very very good.

The Porn Nerd 07-12-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18277114)
Not to be a smart ass but if you don't know you'd be better off paying someone to help you get started for the first couple months.

Videos to start, the more the better but at least have a few thousand.
Script, For a large tube I would probably go with Mechbunny but others are good too.
Feeder and advertising, definitely see first paragraph. And it will depend on what your goals and budget is.
Realistic traffic, it all depends. It's like asking how much traffic a paysite should expect. You know how that goes. :)

If your idea is fairly unique no one will know whether it's worth it or not. You can start a tube site for next to nothing on the cheap though so it's probably worth a shot. But like I said if you have no experience and your goals are big it's probably worth a few hundred or thousand to get someone with experience to help you get started on the right track.


Thanks for the great advice! This post is actually the first step in trying to find someone willing to help (get paid, of course) to get this thing started. Design and script I think I can handle but it's the other points you make that I would need someone's help. Any takers? LOL



Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 18277118)
You have a unique idea or you were kidding? I'll reply as if you were kidding.

Why would anyone leave youporn to go to your tube? That's the question I'd ask myself. And then code and design from there. If you just throw up some vids and throw misc traffic at it I think you'll be wasting time and money.

What can you do to make it faster? More interactive? More targeted vids to targeted surfers? More fun? What can I do to make people bookmark me and eventually make me number 1 and maybe even buy something every once in awhile? If you have the time and resources to sink into something like that, it MIGHT be worthwhile. Otherwise, I'd go with the quantity over quality approach and start 200 shitty cookie cutter tubes.

Where the 2cents button?

Mr. Hardeman: when I am "just kidding" when i post a thread you will know it. LOL No friend, I am SERIOUS about this "unique" idea. Deadly serious. Will ICQ you to discuss (don't want to give it away here on GFY).

Phoenix 07-12-2011 12:38 PM

if you want legal videos streaming on your tube

we can help
we can force them to upgrade page as well after X vids watched
make em give you something...email even
get in touch if you like

let them rate the videos...leave comments, interact a bit

marlboroack 07-12-2011 12:41 PM

I got the tube scenes and sets! Just hit me up!

96ukssob 07-12-2011 12:42 PM

about $10k min IMO

seeandsee 07-12-2011 12:45 PM

get script
user uploads
...
profit

IllTestYourGirls 07-12-2011 12:46 PM

Realistically to start you would need $15k a month minimum.

If you want to talk about teaming up let shoot me an email. paymealot /a/ gmail

Im helping a few big programs launch their tubes and managing their traffic :thumbsup

Plus I have a network of tubes near 500k a day.

xNetworx 07-12-2011 12:47 PM

I blame the tubes

Tom_PM 07-12-2011 12:53 PM

Domain, script, hosted FLV's.

You said to start.

harvey 07-12-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 18277118)
You have a unique idea or you were kidding? I'll reply as if you were kidding.

Why would anyone leave youporn to go to your tube? That's the question I'd ask myself. And then code and design from there. If you just throw up some vids and throw misc traffic at it I think you'll be wasting time and money.

What can you do to make it faster? More interactive? More targeted vids to targeted surfers? More fun? What can I do to make people bookmark me and eventually make me number 1 and maybe even buy something every once in awhile? If you have the time and resources to sink into something like that, it MIGHT be worthwhile. Otherwise, I'd go with the quantity over quality approach and start 200 shitty cookie cutter tubes.

Where the 2cents button?

Although I see your point, I think this deals with absolute scenarios and leaves a lot out of the equation. For starters, if he has a really innovative idea, he has an added "novelty value" to start with. Second, think about TGPs: there were tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands, and a big part of of them made money, yet none of them got to The Hun's position. My point is you don't need to be #1, if being #100 makes you money, what do you care?

As for the question, I'll leave out the cynical (and pretty understandable) answers and try to add something:

Quote:

How many videos to start with?
What script?
How much $$$ should be spent on feeder traffic/advertising?
What type of "realistic" traffic could I expect?
1 - Maybe 700-1000
2- There are many, I'd incline to MechBunny, but there are several that will work.
3- It's variable, obviously the most you invest the more traffic you'll get. Quality is a very different story.
4- Depends o many factors. As an example, we built a site with 0 (zero) investment in traffic and made it go to 18k unique visitors a day in 3 months. But we bought 20k+ in content and we devoted 5 people to this project. AND we also used WP, which helps a lot (I mean, it's day and night, probably amounted for 50-60% of traffic). We merged it with MechBunny's script (plus a good deal of custom scripting) and the site grew almost in autopilot.
I assume that if you run it by yourself with any standard tube script and buy $1000 a month of traffic you could be more or less around 20k a day by month 3 (stable) and from there grow around 10% a month. Again, it all depends o what and how you do it :2 cents:

harvey 07-12-2011 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18277174)
Realistically to start you would need $15k a month minimum.

wow. 8 chars

IllTestYourGirls 07-12-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 18277271)
wow. 8 chars

Im talking if you want to make real money. Of course you can start with nothing like you suggested build the site slowly to 20k uniques a day and make a few thousand a month. Big woop.

Sid70 07-12-2011 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18277279)
20k uniques a day and make a few thousand a month. Big woop.

like 10k?

Agent 488 07-12-2011 01:14 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AXXo

harvey 07-12-2011 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18277279)
Im talking if you want to make real money. Of course you can start with nothing like you suggested build the site slowly to 20k uniques a day and make a few thousand a month. Big woop.

I'm not arguing on that, it's obvious that if you invest more you'll have more traffic (not sure if MORE ROI, that's a very different discussion). I just think you missed the STARTUP part, most mortals don't invest 180k a year on a startup.

On a side note, a few thousands with 0 cost (well, other than server) is a pretty good deal last time I checked :winkwink:

harvey 07-12-2011 01:17 PM

plus, I have a pretty strong feeling what Mr.P idea is, and if I'm correct, he doesn't need to buy mega amounts of traffic to start :2 cents:

IllTestYourGirls 07-12-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 18277291)
like 10k?

A 20k unique a day tube making 10k a month? CTR of 1% = 200 visits a day to sponsors x say 5 banners? 1000 uniques a day to sponsors. 10 sales a day on 1000 unique is pretty awesome stats. I know you could add a pop and IM to throw those numbers off a bit.

Or in other words your tube is making $17/k uniques to your site? Is this a pay tube?

IllTestYourGirls 07-12-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 18277305)
I'm not arguing on that, it's obvious that if you invest more you'll have more traffic (not sure if MORE ROI, that's a very different discussion). I just think you missed the STARTUP part, most mortals don't invest 180k a year on a startup.

On a side note, a few thousands with 0 cost (well, other than server) is a pretty good deal last time I checked :winkwink:

Yup agree with you. I started back in 2007 with zero investment on free hosting from sponsors. Never would have I thought I would be doing this, making what Im making now :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 07-12-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18277131)
Otherwise your idea had better be very very good.

It is, and I'd discuss it with you off-GFY if you would swear to secrecy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18277174)
Im helping a few big programs launch their tubes and managing their traffic :thumbsup

Plus I have a network of tubes near 500k a day.

Sending email. But I think a budget of 1/3 to 1/2 that would be decent to start since I don't plan on competing with the "major tubes" (yet).


Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 18277259)
1 - Maybe 700-1000
2- There are many, I'd incline to MechBunny, but there are several that will work.
3- It's variable, obviously the most you invest the more traffic you'll get. Quality is a very different story.
4- Depends o many factors. As an example, we built a site with 0 (zero) investment in traffic and made it go to 18k unique visitors a day in 3 months. But we bought 20k+ in content and we devoted 5 people to this project. AND we also used WP, which helps a lot (I mean, it's day and night, probably amounted for 50-60% of traffic). We merged it with MechBunny's script (plus a good deal of custom scripting) and the site grew almost in autopilot.
I assume that if you run it by yourself with any standard tube script and buy $1000 a month of traffic you could be more or less around 20k a day by month 3 (stable) and from there grow around 10% a month. Again, it all depends o what and how you do it :2 cents:

Thank you my Tralfamadorian Ambassador. :)

The investment and traffic goals are right in-line for me since I always try and set "reasonable" goals. I'm already fairly successful with my paysite network 9see sig, heh) so I'm not looking for Alexa Top 100 or anything. With what I have in mind I think I could be extremely/extraordinarily profitable with just 20k daily visits. We'll see eh? Thanks Harvey!

Lykos 07-12-2011 01:54 PM

Am here if u ever need content:)

Joking a bit,but yeah it all depends what you want to do...
You can started with hosted flv or buy content,take free script or custom one etc...
I guess if u r not gready u will be good;)

harvey 07-12-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18277389)

Thank you my Tralfamadorian Ambassador. :)

The investment and traffic goals are right in-line for me since I always try and set "reasonable" goals. I'm already fairly successful with my paysite network 9see sig, heh) so I'm not looking for Alexa Top 100 or anything. With what I have in mind I think I could be extremely/extraordinarily profitable with just 20k daily visits. We'll see eh? Thanks Harvey!

Glad to be of help, just lmk if you need more help to grow/develop/setup/whatever :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 07-12-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 18277447)
Glad to be of help, just lmk if you need more help to grow/develop/setup/whatever :thumbsup

I will harvey thank you! If you're on ICQ I'm always available that way to go over things. :)

PS: I miss Vonnegut really bad sometimes.

lazycash 07-12-2011 02:57 PM

paulmarkhamtube.com is available.


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