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In uder 42 hours - mini war - UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-14720689
In a day or two's time, travelers will be evicted from dale farm (UK). they are saying (travelers) they are happy to die and now are fully armed. |
weren't they evicted in july?
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If they believe they should be there, let them fight for it.
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Someone isn't very stable
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i love that show My Big, Fat Gypsy Wedding. i don't know why it facinates me but i can't look away once i click it on.
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I lived across the street from a huge traveller's camp for 16 years. I believe they are always armed.
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Travelers = squatters?
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i fucking hate gypsies making everybody's life's hell i hope the army go in and fuck them up they dont pay tax and they claim benefits
fucking waist of space |
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They are usually involved in crime on some level and can often terrorise a neighbourhood. |
This is interesting news.
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people who have sympathies for gypsies never had to live next to them
there is a percentage who lives a normal, productive live but the majority is a pain in the ass. i can see it every day. |
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it was a junk yard and they cleaned it up. they are now saying the cost to move them could be £18 million. Though last time they said £4 million. The court case is going on now. |
They should be allowed to stay if they are paying council tax.
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Can't they just shoot them?
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Same problem with pornographers, they move in, house prices fall, loose woman coming and going. Can't let the children play in the streets anymore.
Filming girls without knickers in the local park, trying get young girls to have sex for money. Some say they are criminal their website prices certainly are, our Church says they will all go to hell. They hardly work, one guy got $2500 for an hours shoddy video and the poor girl $500 for an experience that damaged her for life. Shoot em, deport them etc etc |
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Maybe they could park themselves in Vanessa's back garden. Seeing how much she cares about them. The problem with the do gooders is they don't want them any where near them. NIMBY's |
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Families at the former scrapyard own their land but many do not have planning permission for homes, despite repeated applications. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. |
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do you think there should be different rules for travellers ? so when travelers break the law nothing should be done about it? they can just do whatever they please , whenever, wherever ? |
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I have not stated any opinion, I pointed out the fact that they were on their own land. |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-14728042
update. they lost the court case. so i think from midnight tonight they can be removed. unless they leve before, wich it sounds unlikly. |
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2HAUmII_hcg
this is the only info we are shown on the tele about gypsies in the States. i dont know how to post with the youtube video showing :( you have to, have to watch it, it's crazy. i love that show |
the simple solution is find some land were they can move to.
it would be cheaper to buy a bit of land than spend millions on kicking them out. they have said they would be happy to move. everyone ones. they sort of remind me of the families in the usa who live in the old ways. i forget there names. they were the same costumes as they did when they first arived in the usa. i think german background. |
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they seem nice. those dresses cost a fortune. i do wonder what they do with them afterwords. we had a family stay near me when i was about 14. they were nice. i used to give them water. it was hard to understand them as they had a strong accent. one asked if i had a job and i said no. he said, thats mrs thatchers fault. i did not have the hart to tell him it was becase i was only 14 and still at school. though when they went they did leave some rubbish in the field they were staying at. i felt let down as i was sticking up with them. but there was no crime. |
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to be honerst i do wonder what they need planning permishion for. they are not real houses (unless i am wrong) but static caravans. i am not sure you need planning permishion for static caravans. i belive tempory buildings are excempt. its why you can put a hut up in your garden. paul, i think you look at them with envy. those static caravans are stunning next to the hut you live in. on a side note. there is an irony in the fact that somone will make good money from the scrap metell thats left. |
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If they really own the land they should be able to do whatever the hell they want on it as long as it doesn't affect anyone else.
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these days they get money from scrap metal. but they (or did) work on farms and building sites and such. moving about. i suspect in the usa you have new age travellers (hippies), rather than traditional families. we have some who are new age too. but these are hystoric families. you get them all over europe. i belive hitler exterminated some during ww2. the problem is some are criminals and they let the rest down. and traditionaly they cover up the criminals. on one side they seem brain washed, but on the other one could argue they are much happier. families stronger. divorse non exsistant. its hard to condem them when our lives are not perfect. part of me likes there life. part of me thionk it would be great to marry a hot big busty girl like they do. but on the other hand they work hard and i am too lazy. |
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There is a big deal when lots of the travellers create such problems for oaps & other youth in the community, however, you find rogues in council areas anyway :2 cents: |
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a few years ago a 'yank' put a shark on his house (i think he was an artist) and it was like ww3. ot went to court but he was allowed to keep it on his roof. even today some will not talk to him. in the uk, people spend a fortune on court costs if they think somone has built a wall too high. you have to remeber that unlike the usa which is huge. the uk is tiny. |
hahaha lol
Two bishops and an actress have visited an illegal travellers' site in Essex where more than 80 families are under threat of eviction by a local council. Bishop of Chelmsford Stephen Cottrell and Catholic Bishop of Brentwood Thomas McMahon, went to Dale Farm near Basildon on a pastoral visit. Oscar-winning actress Vanessa Redgrave visited on Tuesday evening to support a bid to stop the removals. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-14720689 |
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Seems they don't think the law applies to them. I wonder if they didn't want to move into Council homes has anything to do with paying rent, rates and having to be part of the system like everyone else. Like paying income taxes? Just a thought because living in house beats living in a caravan with no proper running water and sanitation. At the moment their waste isn't going into the sewers, they just have a gutter laying on the ground that stream it elsewhere. mafia_man half of it is green belt land and not for living on or a caravan site. Caligari it does effect other people, the people who live around them. People who pay rates and taxes. They interviewed a man whose home borders on the squatters camp. He showed the camera crew a fence the squatters erected on his land. Also pointed out the effluent that was coming from the squatters camp. He lit a piece of paper and pinned it to the fence, called the police to complain and the police arrested him. They should also interview the residents. Take a look at the Google picture and see what they've done to the area. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&su...ed=0CBgQ8gEwAA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Farm Quote:
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as Paul said above, some of the site has been built on the Green Belt without permission, the Green Belt is protected land.
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http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/n...ew/full/108667
We're in the final weeks of the battle to stop the racist eviction of a long-established traveller community and the fight is hotting up. Basildon Borough Council has ridden roughshod over every single opposing argument in its determination to evict the residents of Dale Farm. It has shrugged off the estimated £17.5 million cost of throwing hundreds of people out of their homes and ignored the still greater social and financial price of making an entire community homeless. It has ignored every dissenting voice - from local residents to solidarity activists to Jewish communities who see chilling parallels with their own historic treatment. It has even ignored UN experts and Amnesty International. And if the prospect of breaking international law doesn't stop Basildon council, that leaves only one course of action. The Dale Farm community needs the support of every single person who can lend their strength to the fight. Today supporters petition Downing Street. On Saturday the Solidarity Long Weekend will muster forces for a permanent camp to stop the evictions. And in future it may take non-violent resistance to keep the bailiffs out of Dale Farm. The travellers can still keep their homes with the help of the one weapon Basildon council can't ignore - people power. |
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Not sure what is going on.
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one up the bum = no harm done...
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