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BFT3K 11-01-2011 07:14 AM

Another Reason To Be Self-Employed
 
I will never work for someone else, ever!

Idiotic office politics and absurd big brother laws...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/jail-...ry?id=14850725

BFT3K 11-01-2011 07:28 AM

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spazlabz 11-01-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://abcnews.go.com/Business/jail-personal-office-computer/story?id=14850725
Nick Akerman, a partner with Dorsey & Whitney in New York who specializes in issues of computer fraud and abuse, says Nosal is indeed a teapot tempest.

It's "ridiculous," he says, and "absurd" to imagine the law being applied to rinky-dink infractions, such as people goofing off. The idea that somebody could be sent to jail for checking sports scores? He dismisses it as "crazy."

C'mon now! the defense lawyer is just trying defend his scuzzball client who is a thief :winkwink:

camfrog 11-01-2011 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18529466)

They had hidden cameras, microphones and used screen monitoring software where I worked 5 years ago.

MaDalton 11-01-2011 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camfrog (Post 18529492)
They had hidden cameras, microphones and used screen monitoring software where I worked 5 years ago.

what country?

raymor 11-01-2011 07:43 AM

Also another reason not to steal.

vsex 11-01-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18529500)
Also another reason not to steal.

no shit. :thumbsup

It all comes down to rulings being specific. These douche bags need to go to jail.

bronco67 11-01-2011 07:52 AM

If you're going to work for an asshole, it might as well be yourself.

camfrog 11-01-2011 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18529495)
what country?

United Kingdom

PR_Glen 11-01-2011 08:19 AM

If you are unable to work for anyone ever? It reveals more of a character flaw in you than it showcases your success in business...

What if you were to be involved in a huge merger or partnership? You would have to partner up with other people, other people that could be majority investors.. if you couldn't work with them how useless would you be then?

Something to think about ;)

blackmonsters 11-01-2011 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18529418)
I will never work for someone else, ever!

Idiotic office politics and absurd big brother laws...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/jail-...ry?id=14850725

Get real, the guy stole company information.
It's just a side note that he used the computer.
He could have broken into a file cabinet and still have the same charges.

Viewing sports scores is wasting time but it's not stealing company secrets which is
clearly illegal.

Anyway, 1 million employees would already be fired if checking sports scores was
considered.

:1orglaugh

BIGTYMER 11-01-2011 09:09 AM

That's my staple gun!

BFT3K 11-01-2011 09:16 AM

If you are caught stealing then you should be punished for your crime, no doubt. My issue is I hate the man. I rebel against authority, and I don't care to be micro-managed.

The law that was discussed in the original article is invasive, and very big brothery. It reminds me why I run my own business, and it reinforces my aversion to ever wanting to ever work for someone else ever again.

Partnerships and freelance projects are not the same as punching a time card for someone else, and working in THEIR location, under THEIR control and rules.

Not sure why what I said is controversial, especially here on a board called GFY, populated by (mostly) rebellious individuals, but hey, to each his own.

MaDalton 11-01-2011 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camfrog (Post 18529557)
United Kingdom

wow - didnt think that is possible in any EU country

Lykos 11-01-2011 09:26 AM

Been self employee is far the best for me!

seeandsee 11-01-2011 09:27 AM

i hate laws that give right to put cameras onto people to record all, fuck you, its not freedom

spazlabz 11-01-2011 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18529676)
If you are caught stealing then you should be punished for your crime, no doubt. My issue is I hate the man. I rebel against authority, and I don't care to be micro-managed.

The law that was discussed in the original article is invasive, and very big brothery. It reminds me why I run my own business, and it reinforces my aversion to ever wanting to ever work for someone else ever again.

Partnerships and freelance projects are not the same as punching a time card for someone else, and working in THEIR location, under THEIR control and rules.

Not sure why what I said is controversial, especially here on a board called GFY, populated by (mostly) rebellious individuals, but hey, to each his own.

My take on this issue is that if you accept a job offer you have to agree to certain things. If a company does not allow their employees to do personal things on company computers especially during office hours then it is their right. They own those computers and the connection it is using as well as paying for the employees time. Yes it would be tempting to sneak a peek at sports scores or maybe even search for a little porn during a long grinding day but that does not negate what the employee agreed to while accepting the job. I am not horribly fond of huge corporations but if you agree to follow the rules to get that paycheck each week then I think it is perfectly reasonable for an employer to enforce their rules.

Allison 11-01-2011 09:35 AM

That article is silly. Opens up with "Can checking sports scores from the office, using your employer's computer, land you in the slammer? "

and then later tells the tale of an ex-employee who worked with existing employees to steal company information?

Maybe checking sports scores and placing illegal bets from an office computer might land you in the slammer. No business is going to sue an employee unless there was significant damage done to the company.

BFT3K 11-01-2011 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 18529725)
My take on this issue is that if you accept a job offer you have to agree to certain things. If a company does not allow their employees to do personal things on company computers especially during office hours then it is their right. They own those computers and the connection it is using as well as paying for the employees time. Yes it would be tempting to sneak a peek at sports scores or maybe even search for a little porn during a long grinding day but that does not negate what the employee agreed to while accepting the job. I am not horribly fond of huge corporations but if you agree to follow the rules to get that paycheck each week then I think it is perfectly reasonable for an employer to enforce their rules.

No doubt. I just don't have that level of submissiveness in me, so I need to be self-employed. I'm not saying I am a better person than the mindless simpleton, employed as a cog in the machine.

Most people crave order and stability, so it's all good. For myself however, I just can't personally handle it. No offense to those who can and do.

V_RocKs 11-01-2011 09:41 AM

What if, not who done it...


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