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mikesouth 01-25-2012 02:56 PM

Manwin Tried to Strong Arm .XXX For Mawin Support
 
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?Thylmann again approached ICM, ostensibly interested in doing business with us,? Lawley stated in his declaration. ?He also said that he was planning to start his own adult industry trade group, consisting of the two or three ?powerhouses? of the industry (including Manwin), using organizations such as the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America as models?. He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members.

?After making these statements, Thylmann then set forth a list of ?nonnegotiable? demands to be met by ICM in order for Manwin to consider conducting business with ICM,? the declaration continues. ?Thylmann stated that he would ?tie up ICM in litigation? if ICM did not meet all of his demands.?

According to both Lawley and Dumas, by October the demands included:
? Allocation of several thousand dot-xxx domain names to Manwin free of charge.
? ICM?s commitment to circumvent its policy development body, the International Foundation for Online Responsibility, particularly with regard to the operation of tube sites within dot-xxx.
? Across-the-board discounts on dot-xxx domain registrations.
? Allocation of so-called ?premium? domains, including Tube.xxx, to be operated by Manwin under a revenue-sharing agreement with ICM.
?Thylmann further stated that in order to explain Manwin?s change of heart regarding .XXX, ICM had to agree to concessions that would put a positive ?spin? on Manwin?s involvement, namely, that it would appear that Manwin accomplished some positive impact for the adult industry when news of the deal was announced,? Lawley?s declaration notes.

DWB 01-25-2012 02:56 PM

In before the shit storm and thread lock.

Quote:

?Thylmann further stated that in order to explain Manwin?s change of heart regarding .XXX, ICM had to agree to concessions that would put a positive ?spin? on Manwin?s involvement, namely, that it would appear that Manwin accomplished some positive impact for the adult industry when news of the deal was announced,?
Wow.

AzteK 01-25-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18711916)
In before the shit storm and thread lock.

Not surprised at any of it.

bookmarked to read later

GFED 01-25-2012 02:59 PM

money makes the world go round...

CaptainHowdy 01-25-2012 02:59 PM

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porno jew 01-25-2012 03:01 PM

wow shocked they are a business not mother theresa.

Fletch XXX 01-25-2012 03:01 PM

Adult has always been pretty gangster

mikesouth 01-25-2012 03:01 PM

Those statements are filed in ICMR's motion to dismiss the lawsuit brought by Manwin and Digital Playground

Brujah 01-25-2012 03:02 PM

Theo will be here soon. There's only so fast he can jump when Nathan barks.

JFK 01-25-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzteK (Post 18711919)
bookmarked to read later

I read it now:thumbsup

beerptrol 01-25-2012 03:05 PM

no one should be surprised that Manwin will do what's best for them

DWB 01-25-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 18711949)
no one should be surprised that Manwin will do what's best for them

Yea, everyone should sue ICM because they are not given 1000s of free .XXX domains, then make up some lie to put you in a positive light about why you're doing business with them. :1orglaugh

Sam - Mr. Skin 01-25-2012 03:08 PM

I gave it a read myself.

DarkJedi 01-25-2012 03:10 PM

Bros would still suck Thylmann's cock at conventions.

I was disgusted by the photos of the recent one.

mikesouth 01-25-2012 03:13 PM

Note the BITCH Slap to FSC

"He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members."

Barefootsies 01-25-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 18711949)
no one should be surprised that Manwin will do what's best for them

Correct. They are a business, and a monolith. They will look after their best interests.

:2 cents:

DamianJ 01-25-2012 03:20 PM

http://gifsforum.com/images/image/in...orethelock.jpg

baddog 01-25-2012 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18711975)
Note the BITCH Slap to FSC

"He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members."

Funny, that was pretty much the same thing Stuart Lawley said about the FSC.

selena 01-25-2012 03:28 PM

I'm not a big Manwin fan, but I am less of an ICM fan.

Are there documents supporting the allegations, or is it based on Lawley's word?

Zarathustra 01-25-2012 03:28 PM

so sad and disappointed in this **shakes head**

alias 01-25-2012 03:29 PM

Mike South delivers.

DWB 01-25-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18711975)
Note the BITCH Slap to FSC

"He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members."

Isn't Manwin in bed with the FSC in that digital fingerprinting anti-piracy operation?

I'd bet they are also contracted to put Manwin in a positive light. Pretty smart really. Make everyone legally have to speak good about you. How else could you woo companies like Playboy and have everyone line up to blow you, forgetting all the damage you've caused.

Brilliant plan.

LeRoy 01-25-2012 03:32 PM

This is very interesting!

I'd like to hear both sides of the story though.

stocktrader23 01-25-2012 03:41 PM

Judging by registration numbers Lawley should have taken them up on the offer. :1orglaugh

Nikki_Licks 01-25-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena (Post 18712013)
I'm not a big Manwin fan, but I am less of an ICM fan.

Are there documents supporting the allegations, or is it based on Lawley's word?

If it's lawleys word, then it is worthless. And I think everyone knew there was more to his money grubbing scam. and now it's all starting to come to light.

Protecting children, my ass. I think his guy is the lowest of all scum.

jimmycooper 01-25-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18711975)
Note the BITCH Slap to FSC

"He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members."

:thumbsup

As for the allegations, let's not forget about how much of a greasy scumbag Lawley appears to be and how much he has at stake. We know that Manwin demanded that all of their domains reserved and left unused and that the threat of litigation was implicit in said demand, so it's not inconceivable that there was a negotiation of some type either before or after that information was made public. This could just be his scumbag spin on all that.

SZNY 01-25-2012 04:30 PM

seems like power play or throwing dirt

lagcam 01-25-2012 04:38 PM

It's a bit like Alien vs. Predator......

The only good result is they kill each other or at least keep each other busy for a while.....

xNetworx 01-25-2012 04:45 PM

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw4iu6v6G51r3rizv.gif

SexKey Scott 01-25-2012 04:46 PM

Read.. now see sig

GetSCORECash 01-25-2012 04:52 PM

Manwin why the betrayal, oh Manwin...

V_RocKs 01-25-2012 05:09 PM

Can't wait!

Yanks_Todd 01-25-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena (Post 18712013)
I'm not a big Manwin fan, but I am less of an ICM fan.

Are there documents supporting the allegations, or is it based on Lawley's word?

That is a great question.

mikesouth 01-25-2012 05:45 PM

Look....we know Stuart Lawley is, shall we say, less than forthright. We also know that Manwin is less than forthright....The only thing that adds credence to this is that it is part of a court filing, meaning they had better be able to back it up.

as was said earlier...the best outcome is that they both kill each other....

mikesouth 01-25-2012 07:00 PM

In fairness I got a response from someone I believe is inside Manwin: Its on my site as well

"ICM basically came to Manwin begging to support them. The four main things Manwin told them we absolutely needed were:
1) Stuart or any other ICM goon has to step down from IFFOR
2) They have to lower prices immediately by at LEAST 10 USDs, but we tried for much more than that. There is no reason why it should be more than 30 or so USD
3) Manwin asked them to allow some simple way to register typo domains together with the main registration. For free. Like 2 or 3 obvious typos.
4) an easy way to block typo domains together with normal blocks.
Manwin did not ask for thousands of free domains just for us, they threw around 200 or 300 of them at us the first second we talked. First year only of course. They are also the ones that suggested that Manwin run tube.xxx for example.
In regards to IFFOR rules, Manwin said we want to be sure that no stupid rules would be introduced, the "no tubes on .xxx" was just an example."

alias 01-25-2012 08:23 PM

The big money is in disinformation I guess.

dezinformatsiya 4L

edgeprod 01-25-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexKey Scott (Post 18712187)
Read.. now see sig

Whatkey? Never heard of 'em. :1orglaugh :thumbsup

DWB 01-26-2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 18712169)
It's a bit like Alien vs. Predator......

The only good result is they kill each other or at least keep each other busy for a while.....

:1orglaugh :thumbsup


Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 18712563)
The big money is in disinformation I guess.

dezinformatsiya 4L

Whoever can spread the most disinformation and get away with it, wins.

BIGTYMER 01-26-2012 12:07 AM

Let's hope ICM doesn't cave to them.

Operator 01-26-2012 12:24 AM

Life's a fad

JFK 01-26-2012 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetSCORECash (Post 18712198)
Manwin why the betrayal, oh Manwin...

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

2intense 01-26-2012 03:32 AM

:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18711922)
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DamageX 01-26-2012 03:53 AM

Crooks fucking over crooks, who'da thunk?

Paul Markham 01-26-2012 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18711922)
Thread pending deletion ...

Who has the balls to screen grab and copy it, then keep it for later? :thumbsup

DamageX 01-26-2012 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18712997)
Who has the balls to screen grab and copy it, then keep it for later? :thumbsup

Apparently not you, since you're asking others about it.

Paul Markham 01-26-2012 04:17 AM

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/popcorn.jpg

And see sig.

Damage, done it before I posted.

nico-t 01-26-2012 05:42 AM

the bros are really confused now! :1orglaugh

- from being against manwin because of all the tubes with full stolen vids
- then brownnosing them because stance against xxx
- now against manwin because of this news

you fucking retards :1orglaugh

DarkJedi 01-26-2012 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18713002)
And see sig.

Damage, done it before I posted.



http://clip2net.com/clip/m84465/1327...-clip-99kb.jpg



lived to 90 years old and still fucking illiterate?


/facepalm

Manowar 01-26-2012 07:35 AM

cant believe this hasnt hit 2 pages yet

candyflip 01-26-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18713002)
http://paulmarkham.com/temp/popcorn.jpg

And see sig.

Damage, done it before I posted.

You're an idiot. And every post you make just drives that point home.


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