Europeans / Americans
 

When the dollar was in trouble, the housing market in trouble and the US economy in trouble, there was no shortage of Europeans and Canadians talking shit about the USA, debt, the fall of an empire etc etc etc etc. - was a daily thing for quite a while

So here we are, Euro is in trouble and failing and the EU is in trouble and how many Americans posting about it day in and day out or openly hoping the Euro or EU fails?

None...

Just something to think about.

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we didn't mean to hurt your feelings back then, so sorry, when you are ready for a group hug give me a shout

The correct answer is that most people don't understand economics. That goes for both.

Of course thats true. Thats true everywhere. Thats true even among economists. Thats not the same as cheering for the failure of another country.

I think debt is a problem when people spend more money than they have. They could think about decreasing expenses and spending less money. They could think about buying something cheaper. Of course, it's hard to control spending sometimes. They just want to buy, buy and buy with credit cards and other loans.

Whatever he said

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what people think or cheer for. Whatever is correct works itself out.

You couldn't buy this info for a price anywhere else...

I too remember the countless america/dollar bashing threads from years past. Funny thing is they jinxed themselves

Agreed!

But many act like if they were expert in it.

That's because Americans are not aware they are other countries on this planet

nah, just kidding :)

Maybe Americans are not posting about euro on forums, but various American experts on economic channels are talking about this all the time.

Also all these American rating agencies - they reduce ratings of countries just on time :D

They weren't cheering the fall. Webmaster are paid in dollars they were bitching because when the dollar goes down it fucks up their income while euro going down is of no consequence to US webmasters :2 cents:

It's not WHEN it was in trouble. It's still in dire trouble. Numbers are being inflated and things are bring propped up so Obama can win the election. After he wins, lets revisit and see how things pan out.

Why would they care when they are the greatest country in the universe, blessed by the hand of God himself? :upsidedow

Actually this is the main reason. This has nothing to do with Americans not bashing Europeans and everything to do with Americans not knowing what is happening outside their country (and not caring).

Some Americans have a feeling that what happens outside the US isn't of their concern, unless it warrants sending troops, then they discover new places on the map. They don't see the problems the Euro has as effecting them.

As for the Euro, here's a comment from a leading UK financier. "These people can hardly decide what to have for lunch. So thinking they could manage a currency was absurd." Or words to that effect and he's been proved right. Even when facing the Abyss of melt down every one is looking out for his own concern.

it still is...

If you think that the dollar and the American economy are safe, then you need to see me about this swampland I have for sale. Also got a few bridges I could throw in.

To be fair, most of them think Europe is a country.

Europe isn't bullying the world like a drunken cowboy in a B movie Western

:pimp


8hars

No it's just bullying Greece and Italy, both of which have EU appointed governments, no election required.

EU (wannabe U.S. of E.) sucks and deserves to be bullied by the U.S. so get started already!

Europe is companion of USA SO EVERYTHING WILL HURT

Most Americans think Europe is a country? This is another odd thing about others perceptions of the US. The US is largely a multicultural country of immigrants... from all over the world. I am not talking about the founding of the nation, I am talking about the continued non-stop immigration as well. So in calling Americans ignorant, you are really attacking countless cultures and countries as being ignorant.

What I always find amusing is that Europeans have an image of what/who Americans are which is largely shaped by what they see on TV and in the news. At the same time those people are talking about how all news is propaganda, can't be trusted and how everyone is brainwashed by the media,... Yet, they will quickly accept any news bite that shows an inbred hillbilly commenting on Palestine/Isreal as being a fair representation of a nation of 300,000,000 people... yet, if you were to walk around any major city, you would be very hard pressed to find a white person to talk to at all, for such a sound bite. They would most likely be Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Pakistani, Indian, Mexican, European, from South America etc etc etc.

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It is bad for everyone because it is a global economy. Period.

more american's on this board were doomsaying the death of their economy than any euro's or canucks.

I had posted in the past, commenting about how bad the dollar is. It still sucks, so what ? I did'nt jinx anything, merely fondly remembered the "good old days":winkwink:

So how many times have you been to the US to warrant your well founded and educated opinion?

I would guess that i've probably seen much more of the world than you or those with similar opinions. Not that you are not entitled to an opinion. But your opinion, like most others are largely derived from news and movies and not actual life experience.

I traveled all over the world. I've lived in a few different countries. I speak 3 languages. I've traveled all over Europe many, many times. Unlike most on this board, I appreciate other cultures.

My experience has taught me that Europeans are every bit as ignorant about America as they believe Americans are about Europe.
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Was? So it's not anymore?

All fixed now? :1orglaugh

The US nor the EU right now can afford for the other to fail.

Something that cracekd me the fuck up with the EU webmasters talking shit about the US, is simply that 95% of them RELY on Dollars to make a living.

QFT :2 cents:

1. The threads at 99% were started by the anti barry crowd vendzilla and the likes...

2. Webmaster are paid in dollars, european webmasters got double fucked by the collapse of the US economy and the fall of the dollar..

3. Canadians had to endure decades of canadian dollar jokes, so what is the problem? you can dish it but can't take it now that the tables are turned??

it has more to do with the USA being 5% of the worlds population telling the other 95% how they should live...it has more to do with the general "holier than though" attitude of the US gov towards other countries...many places are sick of the US gov....

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well at least the dollars is not in trouble anymore, thats great news!

I agree with you. I don't think the US should be taking sides anywhere or giving AID to anyone. I certainly don't think the US should have a military budget that exceeds that of the next 15 or so largest economies combined.


and to others...
Of course the Dollar is still in trouble and the economy is still floundering (in spite of having Black Jesus, Lord and Savior and Eternal Shining Beacon of Light and Truth in the White House). The EURO and most other major currencies and economies are also in dire trouble. The dollar was simply the first to tumble in the chain of dominoes largely because of the housing collapse and the total collapse of mortgage backed securities (much of which was also owned by European banks and institutions as well because no one cared what they are buying as long as its making money). All major currencies and markets are inextricably interlinked in today's world... when one flounders, its of direct concern to all.

AID is not really aid its more of a bribe so that corporate interests are met. The money is not free, its not like its red cross stuff or anything. It's cloak and dagger stuff like "USAID" paying for a road from shithole X in my country to shithole Y, at first glance it looks like a humanitarian project but in reality the road lies in the region of a local politicians road building company and his political party lobbied for concessions for US corporations. The local politician gets fat pockets from the "AID" the US corporations get a cloak and dagger deal because of the bribe and everybody but the people are happy.

It's a crying shame that so much US taxpayers money is spent on the personal interests of a few corporations.

Most Americans are provincial idiots. They think because they went to Las Vegas and saw the fake Eiffel Tower they've been to Paris.

Europeans are, to most Americans, the place where their grand parents came from and/or the place where supermodel-looking fuckable bitches come from now. That, and the place where drunk-ass "soccer" (YES I SAID SOCCER) fans riot over a 1:0 score. Oh, and beer too good, expensive and unpronouncable for most American morons to appreciate.

Now, us New Yorkers are quite the differant breed altogether....:)

Why would we want the Euro to drop? I like earning sales in Euro!

The worrying aspects about the USA are the fact that they have got rid of the obligation for the media to be unbiased.

The rise of stations such as Fox news and Murdoch media and their control of information and that they are prepared to lie.

In Europe there are state media like the BBC which has better quality news.

When Horizon the BBC science program became a co production with Discovery the IQ dropped 40 points.

Lack of good newspapers in the US.

Lack of news coverage of events outside of the US.

Poor schooling for the poor.

That is precisely true,

However, thank also the complete junk US programming that is served on local cable, tabloid media focusing on showing only the ridiculous, some not all that representative US politicians from the last decade - these things definitely hurt the image of America in the eyes of those that never took the effort to learn more about or visit the States themselves.

Unbiased news is state run news?

Really?

ALL NEWS EVERYWHERE IS BIASED.

Cultural bias
Political bias
Biased view points that are designed inflame opinion to be sell advertising
Biased views that pander to the reader/subscriber/viewer base
Liberal bias where writing and reporting is a creative art more often pursued by liberal minds

... the list of what is "biased" in news reporting can go on forever.

All news is entertainment that targets its own audience and designed to sell advertising.

All news is a business driven by advertising revenue... not Pulitzer Prizes. Unfortunate that so few understand that while standing on their soap box bashing others. Al Jazeera isn't an objective news source anymore than BBC or CNN is. All are designed to cater to their base with views and opinions and stories and viewpoints that are going to be well received by their base.

I read this and to me, its just an example European arrogance and ignorance. Your news is better than US news? Again, implying an entire nation is stupid.

Wow.

Thanks for stating the bloody obvious.


It is a matter of degree.

Your news media were telling outright lies and people believing it.

That Iraq support Al Qaeda and the other lies with the Iraq war.


Yes the news is bias in the UK but it is better the the US, there is a broader range of opinions on the UK media.

Noam Chomsky is on UK media more than US.

When we get to your republican candidates - they are all nutters.

...and your shit don't stink!