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astronaut x 03-10-2012 08:32 PM

Affiliate programs that cancel your account without telling you....
 
Ok, you want to cancel my account, not tell me.... then continue to send me promo content to keep adding to my sites?

:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY

u-Bob 03-10-2012 08:33 PM

name them :)

Evil Chris 03-10-2012 08:33 PM

What did you do to get cancelled?

astronaut x 03-10-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 18815706)
What did you do to get cancelled?

I sure as fuck didn't go ape shit playing tunes for the popo from my balcony.

I think you seem to be missing the point.

First of all I didn't do a damn thing.

Maybe send them traffic and make sales since the mid to late 90's?

Evil Chris 03-10-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18815716)
I sure as fuck didn't go ape shit playing tunes for the popo from my balcony.

I wouldn't ban ya for that. :1orglaugh

xenigo 03-10-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18815716)
I sure as fuck didn't go ape shit playing tunes for the popo from my balcony.

Funny, but kinda messed up. :)

looky_lou 03-10-2012 10:09 PM

Useless without sponsor name.

AHarper 03-10-2012 10:15 PM

Had similar issues with Kinkydollars

shake 03-10-2012 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHarper (Post 18815810)
Had similar issues with Kinkydollars

I had issues with KD a few months ago. Fortunately they DID let me know my account was cancelled, and I was able to clear up the misunderstanding within a few hours. I am still sending them traffic and sales, they are still sending me cheques :thumbsup

I've had a ton of smaller sponsors cancel accounts without letting me know for who knows what reason - most of them were small ccbill sponsors.

EddyTheDog 03-10-2012 10:44 PM

You are on their mailing list - Its not the end of the world.

Chosen 03-10-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by looky_lou (Post 18815806)
Useless without sponsor name.

:2 cents:

ElleSorbet 03-11-2012 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHarper (Post 18815810)
Had similar issues with Kinkydollars

eep - that doesn't make me feel good as their one I've been considering signing up with

boneless 03-11-2012 01:13 AM

i need to hit up KD, same issue here without notice my account is not working anymore :@

astronaut x 03-11-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18815831)
You are on their mailing list - Its not the end of the world.

Mailing list? Being sent dead link codes?

BareBacked 03-11-2012 12:13 PM

Has happened to me twice in the last year both by big "reputable" programs

just a punk 03-11-2012 12:20 PM

Easily. E.g. pimproll.com

GFED 03-11-2012 12:21 PM

i've only had this problem with nasty dollars and bangbros... happened multiple times with both of them so i quit promoting them...

1726cash 03-11-2012 12:25 PM

For sure its not the big deal. Just keep checking all time your sponsors.

SomeCreep 03-11-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHarper (Post 18815810)
Had similar issues with Kinkydollars

I've also had issues with kinkydollars. They're on my blacklist. Some sponsors you can trust, but kinkydollars you can not. When they fuck you, they will not email you. You will be lucky if they respond to you at all. If you have to promote them, choose PPS, otherwise in the end they will keep all your revshare rebills.

astronaut x 03-11-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1726cash (Post 18816637)
For sure its not the big deal. Just keep checking all time your sponsors.

It is a VERY big deal. Why continue to bother sending me an email with "MY" linking codes, if I need to login every so often just to see if the account is still alive?

Its fucking shady.

Lets say you spend a shitload of time adding their content ... you login and your account is closed.

Now, Ive got to contact someone with the program. If I get a response and If I don't keep getting forwarded to someone else who can fix the situation, I have at least lost sales and traffic numbers for who knows how long?

Btw, Ive yet to still hear back from this company, so I will withhold any names unless I don't get a resolve. Not getting a response yet has pissed me off enough to come here and vent.

If you run an affiliate program like this. :321GFY:321GFY

porno jew 03-11-2012 01:11 PM

what's wrong with kraft dinner?

TMM_John 03-11-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 18815706)
What did you do to get cancelled?

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18815716)
I sure as fuck didn't go ape shit playing tunes for the popo from my balcony.

Heh, I think he's confusing you with Chris formerly of AVN.

tonyparra 03-11-2012 01:17 PM

What are you guys doing to get your account nuked? I promote kinky dollars so i would be curious to know? People very rarely name the sponsor then they dont give details. What type of promotion would cause a sponsor to kill your account?

anexsia 03-11-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElleSorbet (Post 18815937)
eep - that doesn't make me feel good as their one I've been considering signing up with

They mostly convert like crap nowadays, you can just get their members area at one of the many fetish torrent sites.

boneless 03-11-2012 02:13 PM

@tony, for me the clue came out of the resulting login url:
&reason=high+chargeback+ratio+2011

tyhe sad thing about it is i hardly and i mean really hardly make anything with them, so i kinda find it hard ot beleive that those few signups i produced over the years all charged back at once.

ive sent a message to terry over at kd lets see what comes out fo it.

to add to it, friend of mine had the same thing happen twice to him...

bobby666 03-11-2012 02:23 PM

bangbros after my first pps sale

teomaxxx 03-11-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18815705)
name them :)

nastydollars
made with them more then 100k usd in the past years, only to have my account cancelled recently without any email, no replies to my emails at all. fortunately i wasnt promoting them heavily lately, only something like 50 clicks a day

Robbie 03-11-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18815716)
I sure as fuck didn't go ape shit playing tunes for the popo from my balcony.

Dude...I think you are mistaking "Evil Chris" for "Chris 2.0"

They are not the same person.

DWB 03-11-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 18816707)
Heh, I think he's confusing you with Chris formerly of AVN.

What happened to him anyway? He get the help he needed?

Sly 03-11-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18816849)
What happened to him anyway? He get the help he needed?

I have seen him posting recently.

wehateporn 03-11-2012 04:12 PM

Some sponsors get annoyed when you outrank them for their own terms in Google. Let's say you're 1st and they're 2nd, they think "All those sales would be coming to us without this guy anyway". I've seen this happen a number of times

tonyparra 03-11-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18816904)
Some sponsors get annoyed when you outrank them for their own terms in Google. Let's say you're 1st and they're 2nd, they think "All those sales would be coming to us without this guy anyway". I've seen this happen a number of times

karma catches up with idiots in the form of sites like cliphunter and xvideos

anexsia 03-11-2012 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18816904)
Some sponsors get annoyed when you outrank them for their own terms in Google. Let's say you're 1st and they're 2nd, they think "All those sales would be coming to us without this guy anyway". I've seen this happen a number of times

and then they end up not ranking for 1st or 2nd either, ive seen that happen :1orglaugh

ElleSorbet 03-11-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18816720)
They mostly convert like crap nowadays, you can just get their members area at one of the many fetish torrent sites.

I was wondering if that was the case. I see them and another big BDSM set of sites on torrents all the time ...guess it makes sense to try for someone less out there for the taking. Sad though to hear that KD is doing that crap - I've been a fan of their sites for some time. Letdown to hear.

teomaxxx 03-12-2012 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18816904)
Some sponsors get annoyed when you outrank them for their own terms in Google. Let's say you're 1st and they're 2nd, they think "All those sales would be coming to us without this guy anyway". I've seen this happen a number of times

some of them are even annoyed when you underrank them on the first page and then they force you to hand over your domains (eg. nastydollars did to me two years ago with daredom) They would probably rather see tubes or torrents in google on their SE paysite keywords.

newB 03-12-2012 06:05 AM

I'm a bit confused - how do you know they cancelled your account? Can you no longer login, even though you still get the promos in your inbox?

This seems especially worrisome with CCBill programs where programs that close continue to linger in your list of sponsors, and 'logging in' to get your promo material is little more than entering your ID that gets inserted in the appropriate places.

astronaut x 03-12-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18816904)
Some sponsors get annoyed when you outrank them for their own terms in Google. Let's say you're 1st and they're 2nd, they think "All those sales would be coming to us without this guy anyway". I've seen this happen a number of times

This is not the issue in my case.

There really is no need to get technical about it and go off on these crazy theories as to why I got cancelled, or explain other reasons why people get cancelled.

Bottom line. If your going to cancel my account, send me a fucking email and let me know.

If you can take the time to send me dead fucking link codes every other day, you could have taken the time to send me a fucking email telling me you were cancelling my account.

How in the fuck does this happen anyway?

BTW, it is very interesting to see Nats step into this thread because the company in question uses Nats.

A question for you Nats.....

How does an account get cancelled and that now ex-affiliate still get emails with dead linking codes sent to him on a regular basis? Is that something built into the system? Or?

Please explain.

astronaut x 03-12-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 18816773)
nastydollars
made with them more then 100k usd in the past years, only to have my account cancelled recently without any email, no replies to my emails at all. fortunately i wasnt promoting them heavily lately, only something like 50 clicks a day

See that's the shit I am talking about. However, the clicks I was sending were more then 50 a day, but even if your only sending 50 a day, that is still bullshit to cancel an account when you have been a loyal affiliate for years.

astronaut x 03-12-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 18817561)
I'm a bit confused - how do you know they cancelled your account? Can you no longer login, even though you still get the promos in your inbox?

This seems especially worrisome with CCBill programs where programs that close continue to linger in your list of sponsors, and 'logging in' to get your promo material is little more than entering your ID that gets inserted in the appropriate places.

This program uses nats.

TMM_John 03-12-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18818659)
This is not the issue in my case.

There really is no need to get technical about it and go off on these crazy theories as to why I got cancelled, or explain other reasons why people get cancelled.

Bottom line. If your going to cancel my account, send me a fucking email and let me know.

If you can take the time to send me dead fucking link codes every other day, you could have taken the time to send me a fucking email telling me you were cancelling my account.

How in the fuck does this happen anyway?

BTW, it is very interesting to see Nats step into this thread because the company in question uses Nats.

A question for you Nats.....

How does an account get cancelled and that now ex-affiliate still get emails with dead linking codes sent to him on a regular basis? Is that something built into the system? Or?

Please explain.

I would need to know the details of your situation and look at how the NATS program is setup to give you exact answers on why you're getting emails.

If your question is whether or not it's by design or something we encourage to mail link codes & promo tools to banned affiliate accounts, then the answer is no.

wehateporn 03-12-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18818659)
This is not the issue in my case.

There really is no need to get technical about it and go off on these crazy theories as to why I got cancelled, or explain other reasons why people get cancelled.

Bottom line. If your going to cancel my account, send me a fucking email and let me know.

Personally I always like to understand my enemy before engaging. :2 cents: One way or another like you say they are scammers; the word needs to get out and people need to start boycotting the sponsor

astronaut x 03-12-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 18818826)
I would need to know the details of your situation and look at how the NATS program is setup to give you exact answers on why you're getting emails.

If your question is whether or not it's by design or something we encourage to mail link codes & promo tools to banned affiliate accounts, then the answer is no.

"banned" affiliates? Really? You want to use the term "banned"? Kind of harsh, since you say you don't know the details of my situation.

Here are the facts....

I've been an affiliate of a company for probably 15 years, that is now using your software.
I have taken a serious amount of time to add their promo content to my sites. NO rules were broken, and I've done NOTHING shady. Blog posts, TGP and MGP galleries, and 100% legal tube videos that they provided.

After all the hard work and effort, I go to log in and my account doesn't exist.

Yet I am still getting emails with linking codes.

Do I think you encourage people to be shady? No. I never asked that and wouldn't bother asking you such a question.

But they are using nats, my account is dead, and Im still getting emails with my so called link codes to their promo content.

Supz 03-12-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18819137)
"banned" affiliates? Really? You want to use the term "banned"? Kind of harsh, since you say you don't know the details of my situation.

Here are the facts....

I've been an affiliate of a company for probably 15 years, that is now using your software.
I have taken a serious amount of time to add their promo content to my sites. NO rules were broken, and I've done NOTHING shady. Blog posts, TGP and MGP galleries, and 100% legal tube videos that they provided.

After all the hard work and effort, I go to log in and my account doesn't exist.

Yet I am still getting emails with linking codes.

Do I think you encourage people to be shady? No. I never asked that and wouldn't bother asking you such a question.

But they are using nats, my account is dead, and Im still getting emails with my so called link codes to their promo content.


They probably shut your account off from access. This just means your data is still in there system. Its not rocket science. Im sure they didnt delete your info. How else would they send you spam in the future.

porno jew 03-12-2012 10:34 PM

wow i wonder who it could be ... :(

astronaut x 03-12-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 18819247)
They probably shut your account off from access. This just means your data is still in there system. Its not rocket science. Im sure they didnt delete your info. How else would they send you spam in the future.

Really? No shit?

Why do you think your explanation should make a difference to me?

By the way, It's not rocket science to assume that was a possibility already.

Don't expect any smart guy awards in the mail. Smart ass... maybe.

astronaut x 03-12-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 18819247)
They probably shut your account off from access. This just means your data is still in there system. Its not rocket science. Im sure they didnt delete your info. How else would they send you spam in the future.

By the way, that is exactly why I was asking John (Nats) about this.

Are either of you catching on yet?

Evil Chris 03-13-2012 06:30 AM

Well whatever the case, I hope it works out for you.

12clicks 03-13-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18819137)
"banned" affiliates? Really? You want to use the term "banned"? Kind of harsh, since you say you don't know the details of my situation.

Here are the facts....

I've been an affiliate of a company for probably 15 years, that is now using your software.
I have taken a serious amount of time to add their promo content to my sites. NO rules were broken, and I've done NOTHING shady. Blog posts, TGP and MGP galleries, and 100% legal tube videos that they provided.

After all the hard work and effort, I go to log in and my account doesn't exist.

Yet I am still getting emails with linking codes.

Do I think you encourage people to be shady? No. I never asked that and wouldn't bother asking you such a question.

But they are using nats, my account is dead, and Im still getting emails with my so called link codes to their promo content.

if you're using NATS and you can't log in as an affiliate, someone clicked the "ban reseller" or "disable reseller" link. John wasn't being harsh, he was being accurate.
Most likely someone was cleaning out dead affiliates who haven't sent a join in a year or so.

signupdamnit 03-13-2012 07:09 AM

We all know it's lame to disable active accounts without notifying the affiliates. But if it's NastyDollars or BangBros this sort of stuff has been going on with them as early as 2007 if you search the boards. If affiliates would do their due dilligence these sponsors would have had a hard time growing to the size they are.

TMM_John 03-13-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18819137)
"banned" affiliates? Really? You want to use the term "banned"? Kind of harsh, since you say you don't know the details of my situation.

Here are the facts....

I've been an affiliate of a company for probably 15 years, that is now using your software.
I have taken a serious amount of time to add their promo content to my sites. NO rules were broken, and I've done NOTHING shady. Blog posts, TGP and MGP galleries, and 100% legal tube videos that they provided.

After all the hard work and effort, I go to log in and my account doesn't exist.

Yet I am still getting emails with linking codes.

Do I think you encourage people to be shady? No. I never asked that and wouldn't bother asking you such a question.

But they are using nats, my account is dead, and Im still getting emails with my so called link codes to their promo content.

If you'd like assistance with the situation I'm happy to try to provide it. However, I get the impression that's not what you're looking for here. Sometimes text can be misinterpreted however, so if it is what you're looking for, provide me some details, here or in private, and I can lend you a hand.


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