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BFT3K 07-31-2012 11:23 AM

So Long Fourth Amendment...
 
You will be missed...

NSA Whistle Blowers Warn that the US Government Can Use Surveillance to "See Into Your Life"

http://www.personal.psu.edu/ked5111/...e_vl_widec.jpg

This is a shocking video confirming, by former NSA employees, what many of us probably suspected about the National Security Agency.

Story and video here...

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com...n-that-us.html

PR_Glen 07-31-2012 11:30 AM

so if cameras are used to solve crimes in public places how is that an invasion of privacy?

The fourth amendment says nothing of protecting peoples rights to commit crimes in privacy.

BIGTYMER 07-31-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19095858)
so if cameras are used to solve crimes in public places how is that an invasion of privacy?

The fourth amendment says nothing of protecting peoples rights to commit crimes in privacy.

Did you read the article and watch the video?

2012 07-31-2012 11:56 AM

you are a meat puppet. the sooner you realize this the less painful it's going to be

PR_Glen 07-31-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19095867)
Did you read the article and watch the video?

no, i have a job.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19095944)
you are a meat puppet. the sooner you realize this the less painful it's going to be

do you live with this much fear in your life for real? I would hope not.

Freaky_Akula 07-31-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19095867)
Did you read the article and watch the video?

Does it matter? PR_Glen is not as bad as PR_Tom, but both of them always side with the government on any issue.

sperbonzo 07-31-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19095851)
You will be missed...

NSA Whistle Blowers Warn that the US Government Can Use Surveillance to "See Into Your Life"

http://www.personal.psu.edu/ked5111/...e_vl_widec.jpg

This is a shocking video confirming, by former NSA employees, what many of us probably suspected about the National Security Agency.

Story and video here...

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com...n-that-us.html

Been posted about before, by me amoung others... unfortunately, no one seems to have a problem with the government having every single piece of data about you on file to be any kind of problem. Welcome George Orwell....


And for those who say, "I have nothing to hide", if you watch the proliferation of insane laws and regulations being put into place by unelected federal agencies, you will not even know if you have commited a federal felony or not....



:2 cents:.

2012 07-31-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

do you live with this much fear in your life for real? I would hope not.
Yes, I am an American :1orglaugh . You are Canadian. Go play with your squirt gun or something ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19095958)
no, i have a job.

i rest my case.
:1orglaugh

IllTestYourGirls 07-31-2012 12:08 PM

Just think how much quicker Hitler could have exterminated the Jews if he had the power the US government has. It should have been a lesson to all of us to keep government as small as possible, but nope. :Oh crap

Choker 07-31-2012 12:10 PM

If the view into my yard is blocked off by trees but a drone snaps a pic of me taking a piss in my yard, is that considered indecent exposure? Or is that drone guilty of illegal voyeurism?

2012 07-31-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19095958)
do you live with this much fear in your life for real? I would hope not.

seriously though, that's all we get here. FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR

24/7

sometimes it is hard to ignore it :2 cents:

Nikki_Licks 07-31-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19095987)
Been posted about before, by me amoung others... unfortunately, no one seems to have a problem with the government having every single piece of data about you on file to be any kind of problem. Welcome George Orwell....


And for those who say, "I have nothing to hide", if you watch the proliferation of insane laws and regulations being put into place by unelected federal agencies, you will not even know if you have commited a federal felony or not....



:2 cents:.

Bingo :winkwink:

BIGTYMER 07-31-2012 12:38 PM

The system is sucking up all data. Canadians are being monitored by it too. Food for thought.

SilentKnight 07-31-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19096000)
Yes, I am an American :1orglaugh . You are Canadian. Go play with your squirt gun or something ...

Don't make us burn down your White House again.

Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying the War of 1812 bicentennial re-enactments this summer here in Niagara where we kicked your American asses. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seeandsee 07-31-2012 01:46 PM

they will know every move very soon

Tom_PM 07-31-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula (Post 19095968)
Does it matter? PR_Glen is not as bad as PR_Tom, but both of them always side with the government on any issue.

omg I have a fan. Hi.

Rochard 07-31-2012 04:24 PM

Um....

From the text:

Quote:

?It?s hard to believe that your government?s gonna actually do it,? Wiebe says. ?That was the shocker.?
So in other words, they haven't done it yet.

Then....

Quote:

Binney mentions a new NSA facility under construction in Bluffdale, Utah
Then they are talking about facility that is "being built". No nothing illegal has happened, and they are building a building.

Then in the video they talk about how the NSA has a dossier of every American? Well, I would imagine so. Someone in the US government would have to have some kind of dossier on every American. I mean, how else do they know if I'm legally able to receive a passport? Seems my wife's dossier must be interesting, because they denied her a passport and they didn't tell us why.

Then in the video they talk about this data facility that they are building. Last time I checked, the NSA was tasked with "foreign signals intelligence", so building such a facility is exactly what they are supposed to be doing - they collect signals from other countries, store them, and then analyze them.

Basically, they are saying the the NSA is doing their fucking job but accusing them of doing it on US citizens without offering up any proof other than they are building that can hold vast amounts of data.

You fuckers are so lame already. Clearly the sky is falling, they are gonna take away our rights and our guns.

alias 07-31-2012 04:32 PM

"nobody cares about that"

DWB 07-31-2012 05:20 PM

Good luck. Be sure to check back in about 10 - 15 years and let me know how it all worked out for you guys.

BIGTYMER 08-01-2012 12:28 AM

Rochard: The new facility in UT is only for overflow data. The system is already live.

wehateporn 08-01-2012 03:31 AM

As long as the people at the top of the system have hearts of gold, then all will be well! They are nice aren't they? Trying to save Syria from Assad, confiscate WMD from Iraq and to prevent Iran from gaining nukes? These are good guys for sure, nothing to see here!

Here's one of their wonderful murals


Freaky_Akula 08-01-2012 04:58 AM

Nanny Bloomberg's Secret Agents Fan Out Across America

Si 08-01-2012 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19097114)
As long as the people at the top of the system have hearts of gold, then all will be well! They are nice aren't they? Trying to save Syria from Assad, confiscate WMD from Iraq and to prevent Iran from gaining nukes? These are good guys for sure, nothing to see here!

Here's one of their wonderful murals


The Children of the World Dream of Peace, Frame I

The second mural shows a huge military figure, wearing a gas mask, and holding a machine gun and a sword. This sword is stabbing a dove, which is the symbol for peace and implies that peace will be destroyed.

This is actually the first frame of the second mural, as it is in two parts.

The figure with the gas mask, machine gun, and sword is Tanguma's representation of warfare and oppression creating destruction all over the world as the children huddle in darkness.

In the lower right hand corner is a poem:

I once was a little child
who longed for other worlds.
But I am no more a child
for I have known fear.
I have learned to hate...
How tragic, then, is youth
which lives with enemies,
with gallows ropes.
Yet, I still believe
I only sleep today.
That I'll wake up
a child again,
and start to
laugh and play."

by
Hama Herchenberg,
14 years old.. died
December 18, 1943
Auschwitz
Concentration camp

No doubt this inspired him.

There are grayish waves imitating from the figure and these waves represent death, or in this case a poisonous gas that's killed everyone in its path. This mural is the one with the Au Ag symbol, the one that is related to the deadly virus strain.

There aren't waves of death, it's simply the other side of the rainbow which is seen in the opposite frame of the same mural.

One can also see a line of weeping women holding their dead infants and a group of dead children on a pile of bricks. The emphasis of this mural is of a cleansing that is going to kill a myriad of people in its path, however, interestingly enough, this mural has been painted over in recent years.

The depicted woman in the foreground is Tanguma's representation of Mother Mary crying over the suffering of all of the children in the world. The dead infant in her arms reflects a mother's pain for the death of a child. The children on the pile of bricks are not dead, they're huddling out of fear, under the sword of conquest.

This mural was not painted over, several other paintings and the first half of In Peace and Harmony with Nature was because it was deemed "too offensive". The ACLU and National Coalition Against Censorship have been fighting this. Some of the original paintings have been restored.

All of the imagery of children suffering is certainly inspired by the poem above. It's supposed to be shocking and disturbing, because people in America often forget that about war. The first frame depicts the most horrific points in human history: when he kill each other.

http://conspiracies.skepticproject.c...ildren_frame_i


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