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Judge orders Oron to pay 550K to Corbin Fisher
from http://www.mikesouth.com
The 550K is peanuts compared to the 38 Million Corbin Fisher was asking for but the judge interpreted an offer to settle for 550K by Oron to be an enforceable contract. Thats the long and short of it. Oron got of VERY easy.. But they may not be coming back anytime soon, they have been down for almost a week and they lost their paypal but even more importantly word is they are losing their VISA/Mastercard certification, if that's the case any idea of a return is dreaming. The judge did order that Orons accounts remain frozen, presumably until Fisher is paid. |
550k. What a fucking joke...
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why did Corbin Fisher settle for peanuts? and yes when you sue a company making what Oron has made off their thieving ways, $500,000 is peanuts - especially when Corbin Fisher's legal fees are at least half of that if not more.
once again the only one who won in this were the lawyers, parasites. |
doh - doubt post
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Maybe Theo will get Oron's owner to give the keynote at the show next year.
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Xbiz email blast won by 58 minutes.
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Hope they pay up :thumbsup
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It is not a small amount.
The damages they sought was 38 million. That doesn't mean that they would prevail if the case went to trial. 550k guaranteed is money you can bank on and most attorneys will advise taking the sure thing. Settlements often work out like this - and good attorneys always know how to write terms to avoid "offers" from being interpreted as "agreements" on the parts of the parties involved. Besides, they achieved a lot more than just a quick cash settlement so not sure why people think it is so lame. |
Because a judge making a ruling that how a file locker like Oron operates puts them beyond the DMCA's safe harbor protection is the ONLY thing that will put a real dent in them. $550K settlements won't deter any file locker making serious money. A judge can't make that finding unless a trial is fully argued and lands on his bench for a ruling/verdict to be made.
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But Oron is history, right? Like finished, gone, poof. So, isn't this all good news for everyone? One down, another thousand to go?
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Setting up a file lockers is as easy as buying this script here (most starting out do)
http://sibsoft.net/xfilesharing.html I've looked at the script in a test environment and with enough add-ons, out of the box this thing is ready to give incentives for uploaders. It has APIs an integration for 10-20 major payment gateways. That doesn't help anything! |
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CF got what they wanted to begin with, a settlement. Who pays their lawyers fees is yet to be decided according to the ruling today. |
Oron is done... because, even if they have dollars after this case - there will be more cases filed in next few days. There has been one more in the 6 weeks since the Liberty cases started and others will follow quickly - in particular with that money held-up.
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Sorry, but zero sympathy for those that expect others to pay for fighting their legal battles and get chafed when they don't. Been there, done that, and paid the attorneys for it. |
Funds are still frozen, and further hearings will take place to get $ for Corbin's attorney fees.
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it would be nice if somebody with deep pockets and the conviction to see one of these lawsuits through to the end is all I'm saying. Steve Lightspeed has taken a ton of flack for doing the same thing it appears Corbin Fisher is doing - if they really thought Oron was doing something illegal they wouldn't settle, the damages would be huge if they won. |
Another file locker is down thanks to Corbin. Those guys did a great job :)
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Hoping someone else will deal with it is not doing anything. What CF did was take a major crack at them and pulled off shutting them down, freezing assets, getting cash settlements, etc., and most importantly, providing a road map for others to follow suit. The word "if" in law is never good to rest a case on.:2 cents: |
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Sue to get the IP's. Send out letters asking for an admission and advising they get a lawyer or asking for the reason it wasn't them and then investigating the reason. It it turns out to be BS, see who the IP holder is, is he worth suing and if so hand serving him with a writ and saying if they can check the computer and find nothing, the writ will be torn up. If they refuse access, log the refusal, if pirated material is found tell them to get a lawyer. Don't ask for settlement at any time. That's blackmail, let them open that door. Different countries doing this is different countries would make it world wide. There is another option, sit back and wait for the tide to turn, while it creeps up around your waist. Me I'm retired and have nothing than hatred for parasites. |
Standing up for the rights of the adult industry and adult content providers will never be appreciated by those who benefit the most. No one gives a fuck anymore. Only scumbags, scammers, and thieves will survive.
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"Since when did an industry full of felons, crooks, thieves, scammers and other criminals start worrying about the rules? " :2 cents: |
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Sorry BF, it had to be said. |
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However the doctrine of stare decisis, to my knowledge, has nothing to do with out of court settlements. |
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IMHO it throws Fisher's credibility right out the window knowing he will flat out lie for one of the biggest pirates online, and perpetuate the abuse of children by also lying that there is no child porn on Oron, when everyone knows it was full of CP and will be again. And how exactly would Mr. Fisher know if there is CP on Oron or not? Was he also tracking child porn or was he only tracking Liberty Media's content? That means either he has no clue if CP is hosted at Oron or not and is going to lie about it, or he is willing to allow CP to continue to be hosted at Oron and say it's not for the sake getting a percentage of $550k. So he's either a liar or a scum bag. I could care less how much money he got, that is his business, but agreeing to lie for these shit stains who have been massively fucking the entire industry AND are involved in child porn, just put him on the same level as them. :321GFY |
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To wit, quoting from the pertinent parts of the settlement letter cited in the judge's decision: Quote:
To clarify something that I think didn't really come through in Mike's post that started this thread, Corbin Fisher filed a motion asking the court to enforce the settlement agreement; the judge didn't just get a wild hair up her ass and decide to interpret an "offer" as an "agreement" -- she did exactly what the plaintiff asked her to do. In the end, all Judge Navarro did here was evaluate whether case law supported Corbin Fisher's position as to the finality and enforceability of the settlement agreement, and come to the conclusion that Corbin Fisher's attorneys were correct. |
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It's not only lame, but it shows how big of a scum bag Fisher is. What respectable human being in their right mind would stick up for a site that hosts child porn? |
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That part just doesn't make sense. |
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As far as I see it, it doesn't matter which side came up with it, it's a really shitty thing to agree to. Fucking the industry in the ass aside, what that says is, "hey, I know you are involved in child abuse of the worst kind, but if you cash me out, I'll look the other way and tell everyone in my industry that you're an honest guy who isn't involved in such things." |
Providing cover for sucmbags is oh so typical of most in this industry. Not all are like Far-L and fight for what is right AND principles
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Since it is a settlement and therefore not really a legal precedent it doesn't have a lot of legal standing so much as it is a blueprint for future lawyers to use as a way go after these big file lockers. |
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