Revenge Bucks Are Now Scammers
 

so John Gleem sells Revenge Bucks which was an awesome program. Since then I'm getting charge backs that don't make sense. I don't even promote these guys at all - except for buried links on some of my sites. If I was doing a good bit of sales and had chargebacks I could understand - but I'm sending a sale every month or so, and am getting dinged like crazy. I know the shady fucks who now own Revengebucks are just killing off rebills and this is standard biz practice - but it irrates the fuck out of me and I wanted to send a BIG FUCK YOU to the owners of ReveneBucks. And fuck you too John for selling out.

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congrats

wow posting his kids names and the school they attend? This jason forrest guy on your link I am talking about. Lots of info on there

Wait what, Revenge Bucks was sold???

a tad much

revengebucks was sold? i was just checking them today

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You should do some research. he probably owes mid 6 figures combined to people on this board.

At what point do you cut a guy like that slack? Plus if I'm not mistaken he was off-shore running a scam auction site.

ya never cut him slack but what are they gonna do steal his kids crayons? lol gimmie that lunch box kid

Didnt know revengebucks sold.

Did not know John sold it. Looks like I need to find any remaining links and dump them. Thankfully I only have about $20 pending right now and haven't been pushing them at all lately.

Dang only his proctologist knows more about him.

AMA Kings?

Didn't think Gleem would sell, wow.

I have had more refunds this month than I had over the last 3 years combined.

Ah doh. Need to pull links.

Figured when gleem removed it from his sig. Shame.. :/

Chargebacks come directly from our biller and are automatically posted to Nats and the affiliate that send the chargebacked sale automatically gets the amount deducted. This is normal, and there is nothing we can do about this. It works like this with every affiliate program, especially if you are on revshare.

We can not fake chargebacks or credits, this is not possible with Nats, so you are crossing a line to claim that we are scammers.

We have improved RevengeBucks a lot in the past months, we have re-designed all the sites, added lots of new promo tools, introduced PPS, we did everything to make it better for affiliates. The last thing we would do is rip off our affiliates, that would not make any sense.

I agree with you at this point.

If anyone else has had the same... then...

RBJason - what are your other properties?
who own the program now?

no answer - means something shady behind it

this is news to me. Wierd shit there about your refunds :(

Will you add other payout options than check/wire? Like Paxum or Payoneer?

I actually don't send RB much traffic because of their lack of payout options :2 cents:

RevengeBucks was acquired by Mike/Mystery Man more than 6 months ago. Mike owns several other programs such as FuckingAwesome and many other big affiliate programs.

What happened is that one member, who has been a member for over a year, suddenly did several chargebacks. For safety precautions our third party biller then credited a couple of his latest rebills, because there was a big chance those would result in chargebacks as well. These chargebacks and refunds are automatically posted to Nats and deduced to from the affiliate. Unfortunately there is absolutely nothing we can do about this and this is perfectly normal. These things happen now and then and it's totally out of our hands.

We have spend many months on improving RevengeBucks by redesigning all the sites, introducing PPS, adding lots of new promo tools, FHGs, Video Banners, etc. only to make it better for our affiliates. It would not make sense for us to do all of this and then try to scam affiliates. We have been in this business for 15 years and are not here to scam anyone

thx for answering
just curious why no announcement has been made on the transition?

We are still working on improving the program and we are also working on some other programs which we will all launch under 1 new 'umbrella' just like our http://sendjoinsgetpaid.com/. Once all is finished it will be officially announced in a big announcement :)

ive had very little chargebacks for the amount sent (not this site, amakings) think it was 5 chargebacks for every 200 sales, which isnt bad.

Yeah I hardly ever get chargebacks from Amakings

Approx a year ago when we started pushing amakings.com some big traffic n sales we noticed quite high CB ratio, very very unusual for us. Than slowly it went to normal - and we changed nothing on our side for sure, same traffic etc.. Now they are on the 'normal' cb ratio just like any other programs we push.

Back to the topic I was scared to hell because of this thread but when I realized who bought the program [amakings] I said heyyy No Problem! :pimp

Thanks man! :thumbsup
Something's fishy not announcing the sale.
I've terminated my affiliation with RevengeBucks!

Wow always two sides of every story and sometimes 3 sides are needed!!! LOL I just don't see it being a scam *shrugs*

Mike / Mystery Man is very reputable. He owns many programs and has always paid on time, don't be so quick to judge.

I removed the links 30 days ago. They removed the payments via Paxum without notifying webmasters. Conversions plummeted with the same traffic that was sending. Something to suspect ...

im sure the only reason they removed the paxum is cause they dont send paxum payments, the old owner did.

I agree... So I changed the links... simple!

Will you guys add paxum or payoneer in the near future to amakings/gossipkings and revengebucks? I am pretty sure many affiliates would like this.

Same here,i reached 100$ payout,and then suddenly one month after i am in -30$. Somehow i dont think i'l get that payout.

We only offer payouts by check and wire transfer.
We don't expect this to change anytime in the near future.

You should pay $30 to revengebucks.

does that mean you approve those shady pre-checked x-sells they are using?
i'm going to put RevengeBucks on blacklist the same like other "mystery" programs they own

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Our xsales are displayed very clearly above the join button. There is nothing 'shady' about them. We are using a trusted third party biller. You are pushing and promoting tons of other programs wich similar xsales.

Conversions plummeted?
Yeah right, you send less than 1000 hits in 2012 and got 1 sale, which was after we took over...

that's how brazzers x-sells look like. big difference, though they still don't show up x-sell sites urls

Get access to a 3 Day Trial to Brazzers Reel for just $ USD 2.95 for 3 day(s) then recurring at $ USD 29.95 every 30 day(s) Get access to a 3 Day Trial to Mofos for just $ USD 0.95 for 3 day(s) then recurring at $ USD 29.95 every 1 month(s)

They use the same biller, the only difference is that their pricing shows up with the description and ours show on the right.
Anyway, there is no need to discuss this. I know you have personal grudge against our programs but you are pushing plenty of other programs that have similar xsales.
You might find them shady, but they are totally legit, and approved by our biller which works within the rules of what is allowed by the banks.

okay. i agree those aren't that harsh once you used your own merchant to process x-sells a couple of years ago

and there has been no personal grudge with your programs anytime

send me an email mrdeiz @ signbucks.com i've got a few questions

Hilarious :1orglaugh

ok back to checking out revengebucks i didn't know mikeyboy was behind it now :)