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onwebcam 01-25-2013 11:37 AM

Judge rules Obama appointments unconstitutional
 
A federal appeals court ruled Friday that President Obama violated the Constitution when he sidestepped the Senate to fill open spots on a labor relations panel, in a major setback for the president.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2J0vm5NQw

CDSmith 01-25-2013 11:40 AM

Obama is evil incarnate. The devil. Or the devil's spawn. He very likely has a three 6's birthmark on him somewhere.

A republican friend of mine said so.

Rochard 01-25-2013 12:17 PM

Why does everything have to be approved by Congress? I understand checks and balances and all of that, but not every last thing needs to be run past Congress. The more that does have to be run by them the more difficult and time consuming everything gets, and then Congress plays it's games and it's a lot of time and effort wasted and nothing gets done - on top of that we often end up with the second or third choice to run an office.

onwebcam 01-25-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19443944)
Why does everything have to be approved by Congress? I understand checks and balances and all of that, but not every last thing needs to be run past Congress. The more that does have to be run by them the more difficult and time consuming everything gets, and then Congress plays it's games and it's a lot of time and effort wasted and nothing gets done - on top of that we often end up with the second or third choice to run an office.

If Presidents are allowed to stack "congressional" committees then he can just push through those committees any thing he likes. Sound fair and balanced?

SuckOnThis 01-25-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19443860)
a major setback for the president.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AtlantisCash 01-25-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19443944)
Why does everything have to be approved by Congress? I understand checks and balances and all of that, but not every last thing needs to be run past Congress. The more that does have to be run by them the more difficult and time consuming everything gets, and then Congress plays it's games and it's a lot of time and effort wasted and nothing gets done - on top of that we often end up with the second or third choice to run an office.





Maybe it is because we have more important things to lose than time as ordinary citizens?

actually You may think that my opinion wouldn't make matter though since i m not an American, but United states, which is a great country have been wasted at the hands of these 2 evil parties imho...

so to side one by the other is useless, one of them using Your gun rights as a tool for their populism, the other bible thumpers use something else.

TheFootMan5 01-25-2013 03:07 PM

Pretty much everything they do nowadays is unconstitutional lol

Rochard 01-25-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19443948)
If Presidents are allowed to stack "congressional" committees then he can just push through those committees any thing he likes. Sound fair and balanced?

Your right. Clearly it's much better if Congress just blocks everything.

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 19444188)
Maybe it is because we have more important things to lose than time as ordinary citizens?

This is why nothing ever gets done. Instead of making a decision and moving forward, the fight over who to put in the position, fight over every little change, and then turn around and blame the same person for the problems.

StickyGreen 01-25-2013 03:33 PM

This shit is crazy, someone violates the constitution and no one even gives a shit... they're totally ready for a dictator...

Scott McD 01-25-2013 03:56 PM

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Oh sorry i thought you said Judge Jules...

buzzard 01-25-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19443944)
Why does everything have to be approved by Congress? I understand checks and balances and all of that, but not every last thing needs to be run past Congress. The more that does have to be run by them the more difficult and time consuming everything gets, and then Congress plays it's games and it's a lot of time and effort wasted and nothing gets done - on top of that we often end up with the second or third choice to run an office.

Good Lord. Get Help... Please.

buzzard 01-25-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19444323)
This shit is crazy, someone violates the constitution and no one even gives a shit... they're totally ready for a dictator...

+3 ...More than crazy. It's Insane.

AdultPornMasta 01-26-2013 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19444271)
Pretty much everything they do nowadays is unconstitutional lol

Damn near!

:2 cents:

Coup 01-26-2013 05:04 AM

The constitution is worthless. It always has been and always will be

TheSquealer 01-26-2013 05:44 AM

Fucking awesome. We have a president with a law degree and that specializes in Constitutional Law... Who violates the Constitutionin in a VERY routine process but gets a free pass and is defended for it.

The Idiocraxy is almost here. Wonderful.

nation-x 01-26-2013 08:28 AM

The level of stupidity in this thread is typical for GFY. At issue is that the Republicans kept pro forma session during their recess to prevent Obama from making these appointments. They decided to test whether or not the appointments could be made and a lower federal court has ruled that they cannot. You guys act like he raped your mama or something.

Tony Soundview 01-26-2013 08:32 AM

This court is out of order.

SuckOnThis 01-26-2013 08:41 AM

Well obviously this is much worse than outing a CIA agent, lying to start a war, and committed war crimes via torture.


:1orglaugh

purecane 01-26-2013 10:56 AM

You're exactly right...that's why there hasn't been an ATF director for seven years. Congress is too busy chasing steroid users and pointing fingers at each other. And hey, if you had that kind of job security why work at all? I means those guys got voted in once back in the eighties right?

BFT3K 01-26-2013 11:14 AM

Here is this thread in dance form...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=bq7DGvfnr3U

Rochard 01-26-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19445391)
You're exactly right...that's why there hasn't been an ATF director for seven years. Congress is too busy chasing steroid users and pointing fingers at each other. And hey, if you had that kind of job security why work at all? I means those guys got voted in once back in the eighties right?

This is what I'm saying. At a certain point in time, it's just no longer worth the fucking effort.

This is not a Republican VS Democrat thing. The ATF hasn't had a director in seven years. Why didn't Bush put one in place? Why didn't Obama do it in the past four years? Because it's going to take too much effort, time, and resources, and once they get in office it's just gonna be more up hill battles to get things done.

Look at what's happening to Hillary. One hundred and fifty men using trucks armed with heavy mounted machine guns attack an embassy and they are blaming this on Hillary saying it's her fault - Never mind that Congress plays a huge part in funding security for the embassies. WTF?

This is all Congress does at this point - plays games for political capital. Picking the right person for the job is not longer even remotely part of the process.

Vendzilla 01-26-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19445494)
Picking the right person for the job is not longer even remotely part of the process.


That's just it, The president isn't the right person to pick the person thats right for the job, it's suppose to go thru a process. Obama can't be bothered with that, fuck him

StickyGreen 01-26-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19445238)
Well obviously this is much worse than outing a CIA agent, lying to start a war, and committed war crimes via torture.

People like you always fail to realize that people like me dislike both Democrats and Republicans, so when you see me talking about how your Democrat leader is violating the constitution the first thing that comes to your mind is "But, but... but but George Bush also violated the constitution!"

Yea, no fucking shit. As if that makes it okay? They're all a bunch of crooks with no respect for the law. Get a clue.

You can now be spied on with no protection of privacy and be indefinitely detained without a trial thanks to BOTH of these stupid ass parties that you all constantly defend and argue back and forth about.

Barefootsies 01-26-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19444323)
This shit is crazy, someone violates the constitution and no one even gives a shit... they're totally ready for a dictator...


Barefootsies 01-26-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19445701)
You can now be spied on with no protection of privacy and be indefinitely detained without a trial

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

:2 cents:

GrantMercury 01-26-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19443862)
Obama is evil incarnate. The devil. Or the devil's spawn. He very likely has a three 6's birthmark on him somewhere.

A republican friend of mine said so.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

GrantMercury 01-26-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 19445226)
You guys act like he raped your mama or something.

:1orglaugh:

When it comes to Obama, some people WANT to get riled up.

A man hears what he wants to...

GrantMercury 01-26-2013 03:45 PM

No surprise.

Judge who ruled against Obama?s recess appointments has long list of ties to republican party shenanigans dating back to Oliver North

http://www.stableytimes.com/featured...er-north/1122/

StickyGreen 01-26-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19445808)
:1orglaugh:

When it comes to Obama, some people WANT to get riled up.

A man hears what he wants to...

I would get just as "riled up" every time George Bush would do this type of shit... stop seeing the world through your 2-party paradigm, we don't all think that way...

GrantMercury 01-26-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19445877)
I would get just as "riled up" every time George Bush would do this type of shit... stop seeing the world through your 2-party paradigm, we don't all think that way...

Why do you assume the comment is personally directed at you? Defensive much?

StickyGreen 01-26-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19445887)
Why do you assume the comment is personally directed at you? Defensive much?

Because I'm the exact type of person that you're talking about. You see someone like me call out Obama for his bullshit and automatically assume I play your 2-party game and that I'm some Republican who is butthurt that my "team" isn't in the White House so it's my duty to bash Obama any chance I get.

The President violates the constitution... and instead of saying "Hmm, that's all bad, our elected officials are sworn to obey and respect the constitution," you focus your energy on looking elsewhere to place the blame or try to rationalize why it's okay.

Based on your logic... it's perfectly fine to violate the constitution as long as it's a Republican who is the one calling it unconstitutional.

Coup 01-26-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19445902)
Because I'm the exact type of person that you're talking about. You see someone like me call out Obama for his bullshit and automatically assume I play your 2-party game and that I'm some Republican who is butthurt that my "team" isn't in the White House so it's my duty to bash Obama any chance I get.

The President violates the constitution... and instead of saying "Hmm, that's all bad, our elected officials are sworn to obey and respect the constitution," you focus your energy on looking elsewhere to place the blame or try to rationalize why it's okay.

Based on your logic... it's perfectly fine to violate the constitution as long as it's a Republican who is the one calling it unconstitutional.

You're a loser. Lol. Get a fucking life already you God damned nerd.

Rochard 01-26-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19445605)
That's just it, The president isn't the right person to pick the person thats right for the job, it's suppose to go thru a process. Obama can't be bothered with that, fuck him

Brett, you always twist everything into a Republican vs Democrat issue. And not everything is. Your bitching about Obama not appointing someone to lead the ATF, but your last Republican president failed to do either. You hatred of Democrats is so bad that it's blinded you to everything.

GregE 01-26-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19445605)
That's just it, The president isn't the right person to pick the person thats right for the job, it's suppose to go thru a process. Obama can't be bothered with that, fuck him

And these are the right people ??

http://www.urantiansojourn.com/wp-co...epugAsylum.jpg

TheSquealer 01-26-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 19445226)
The level of stupidity in this thread is typical for GFY. At issue is that the Republicans kept pro forma session during their recess to prevent Obama from making these appointments. They decided to test whether or not the appointments could be made and a lower federal court has ruled that they cannot. You guys act like he raped your mama or something.

Right because the Constitutional Lawyer/President who's sworn to uphold the Constitution on multiple levels, really should just do whatever he wants. Save the reply, we all know of your liberal fanaticism and that Black Jesus can do no wrong in your eyes.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

GrantMercury 01-26-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19445902)
Because I'm the exact type of person that you're talking about. You see someone like me call out Obama for his bullshit and automatically assume I play your 2-party game and that I'm some Republican who is butthurt that my "team" isn't in the White House so it's my duty to bash Obama any chance I get.

Uh... :helpme

Idk wtf you're talking about. The comment wasn't directed at you, but you believe it was, and you think you know what I'm assuming, and...???

dynastoned 01-26-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19444271)
Pretty much everything they do nowadays is unconstitutional lol

exactly... it's fucking sad.

Vendzilla 01-27-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19446087)
Brett, you always twist everything into a Republican vs Democrat issue. And not everything is. Your bitching about Obama not appointing someone to lead the ATF, but your last Republican president failed to do either. You hatred of Democrats is so bad that it's blinded you to everything.

When people are nominated by a President to become Cabinet members, the Constitution requires that they be confirmed by the Senate before they can take office, so that facts about them can become known before they are given the powers of their offices. Although President Obama complied with this requirement when he appointed Cabinet members, he also made other appointments to powerful positions created by Executive Orders ? people aptly called "czars" for the vast, unchecked powers they wielded, in some cases greater than the powers exercised by Cabinet members. These "czars" never had to be confirmed by the Senate, and so had no public vetting before acquiring their powers. We had unknown and unaccountable rulers placed over us.

If you think this is a GOP VS Democrat argument, you need a good phonics program. Because I don't believe that if a president does something morally wrong, it's ok for the next one, apparently you do! I never brought up what Bush did, that's history, going to deal with the present and a president that's an asshole to the American people and the people too stupid to realize it!

AdultPornMasta 01-27-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 19445057)
The constitution is worthless. It always has been and always will be

Please explain.

:2 cents:


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