Is REPORO scam for advertisers???
 

Hi Guys I want to comment something with you.

Do you think that REPORO could be a SCAM for advertisers?

I mean:
Reporo have a very little traffic from webmasters. Almost all traffic is bought from other ad networks. You could check this very easy way:
If you visit the redirect code of juicyads you will find first network ads, and after Reporo redirects.
If you visit the redirect code of Plugrush you will find first network ads, and after Reporo redirects.
If you visit the redirect code of trafficholder you will find first network ads, and after Reporo redirects.
And more more more ad networks.

I'm useing GEOEDGE proxy and I assure you that this happens in a lot of countries.

I have a question for all those networks... Why are you selling your traffic to other ad network???? I don't understand this policy. with this behavior you are subtracting efficiency to our advertising, because we (the advertisers) are buying you and reporo traffic. And finally we are paying twice impressions for the same user. :mad:

And one more question to Reporo. Why are you buying traffic to other networks and sell it to other advertisers??? Currently I'm buying traffic to those networks too. I don't understand. I don't need another "media buyer". If I need traffic from Juicyads I want to buy myself and, I don't want you to buy for me.

And the last thing....
In Reporo Terms and conditions you will find this:

No Assignment or Resale of Ad Space.

The parties may not resell, assign or transfer any of its rights hereunder, except to any of their Affiliates provided that such Affiliates are not competitors of the other party. Any other attempt to resell, assign or transfer such rights will entitle the other party to terminate this contract immediately, without liability on the part of the terminating party. "Affiliate" means in respect of a party its "holding company", its "subsidiary company" or a subsidiary company of its holding company, as those terms are defined in section 736 of the Companies Act 1985.

it's funny, right? :pimp
They don't permit to do the things they are doing

parking here.

Not possible. They were throwing a party and buying BRO drinks in Vegas.

:winkwink:

those titties on the bartenders... were sure nice

If this is going on it's nice to know ...

say what?

plugrush sells their traffic via eroadvertising too
eroad redirects half of my ch mobile traffic for free to brokerbabe
etc.:(

that's why i stop buying traffic on reporo.

I would say they just buy all unsold traffic from other brokers?

I've observed that lately many of the traffic networks are quite friendly to one another on the board. Another downside to collusion between networks is that it will have the tendency to reduce the prices paid to publishers and increase the prices paid by advertisers because you eliminate some natural competition.

yes, ero advertising is also selling traffic to reporo

All advertising companies are selling/buying traffic from themselves

And advertiser we are paying unique visitors to each ad company when actually we are having several impressions of the same unique visitor.

Very interesting...That provides food for thought

always said the same 'the only one who makes money is the traffic network broker'

Hell yeah !!!:thumbsup

If that was true, people would stop buying... and they don't.

yes, because is better to earn 1% than nothing

Why is that bad? There are many brokers in this business, I work with some since their service is good or they system is awesome. I dont see a problem here.

I got offers from others I offer to my affiliates, so what? They can go directly to the sponsor but they don't.

Reporo is good and solid, they know what they are doing.

Why is that bad? Let me explain you from an advertiser point of view:

I pay 0.02 from unique visitors from USA mobile traffic. 0.02 to juicyads, 0.02 to plugrush and 0.02 to reporo.
One unique user visit juicyads and see my ad (+0.02). refresh the page and visit my ad in plugrush (+0.02), and refresh the page and see my ad in reporo (+0.02). I have pay 0.06 per unique visitor that see 3 times the same ad.
I'm not talking about brokers. reporo is not a broker, is an ad network. Is different.

Exoclik and traffic shop does not permit this practise and his traffic is better than reporo.

Agreed, good point if you want to cap your views. You have a valid point, since I don't mind more views per user it's different.

I retarget those users based on IP/Hash, so in my case its not bad.

But again valid point made by you

Not sure about mobile traffic, but you can find TrafficShop.com at ExoClick's Marketplace selling popunders. I suppose exoclick also sells popunders from trafficshop on their RON campaigns.
Do you think it is different for mobile?

I tried to buy from them and If I remember it was all RON traffic.
You could not target anything.

Def sounded weird to me

:1orglaugh

Hi There

Just thought i would address this one myself :)

Firstly thanks for a good post on the forum, there is plenty of chat going on and its good to ask these questions - you make a fair question to ask why this happens. Obviously a lot to go through so ill do my best to answer each point.

Reporo does buy traffic from other networks and this is no secret. As the world and industry consolidates its products and offerings it is normal to source traffic from a mutitude of places - an asset every good ad network, i believe should do.
Addresing the other networks individually, we buy directly from juicy ads and traffic holder but i do not believe we currently buy from plugrush. We serve around 16m redirects a day at present but our buys from JA and TH (and a handful of other networks too) make up around 800k of this traffic. - so just 5% ish.
The remainder is direct deals with publishers who do not have mobile versions of their site whose traffic we have acquired via one of our pub acquisition team in one of our 6 offices and sometimes with the help of brokers who know publishers we do not or who have agreed rates with them - the same like any agency representing anyone.
It is also true that we have some relationships with affiliate programs who send us the traffic they cannot monetise as we have the buyers seeking most inventory forms far beyond just geo and OS.
Finally the remainder comes from buyers of inventory - and herein lies the question of why some buyers but perhaps not yourself, buy from both reporo and other networks too, who when they buy lets say Android 3g in France and that they only have a CC billed version for the wifi users they just bought form a network who doesnt have carrier targeting, they send the wifi to us to sell to our buyers and they keep the wifi thus improving their ROI and profit margins.

Re geoedge, i use it myself 12 hours a day and whilst a great tool it doesnt imitate the operator targeting and in many cases a good site will still pick up that your not on an actual mobile device - our netowrk does.

So to answer the question re networks sellign to us - surely they just sell to whoever pays the most? If we have live campaigns in 61 geos and they only have them in 30, why shouldnt they look to monetise that inventory and make both themselves but also their publisher the most amount possible?

Regarding your last point i hope this is not taken the wrong way but we believe we have an excellent product with great reach targeting and penetration so if another is able to buy our traffic and sell it on then we back ourselves to be able to find that solution and keep as much in house as we can.

Hope that helps clear any blurriness up from our side.

From an action point of view, id be more than happy to pick this up with you offline and set up any test cases youd like, to put your mind at rest and do these tests gratis so you can come back and be a healthy and happy buyer.

cheers

ill crack on and just answer each one, one by one hope thats ok :)

thats right we do monetise a lot of unsold inventory. also on our banner network (the above just related to redirects i believe) if someone has buyers directly in say the USA, they will ask us to monetise the non US as we have the local language and importantly the local and most popular billed solution for mobile.

another fair point but tying this in to why we push for the highest rates, is not to line our own pockets. of course we have to make a profit too but even given we get along, we are still competitors and always striving to do one thing better than another to get a competitive edge and that comes by being able to pay the publishers the most.
The space has become increasingly competitive in the last 12 months and everyone is putting on the squeeze - advertisers to keep their CPA low and publishers to keep inventory prices as high as possible. If anything i would say publishers are wiser to the capabilities of each partnerthey choose and so they should as they too need to make a margin.

i dont want to instigate a riot but debate i hope is fine. "better" is a strange term to use when you buy blind network traffic.
does better mean better conversion ratio? if so then your cpc bid is adjusted to meet CPA.
does better mean it converts at a better ratio but at a lower price? if this is the case then it is only better for the advertiser and not the publisher (as if it is cheaper then perhaps the network selling it doesnt have enough buyers to compete with you) whom you were previously worried we might be under paying.
does better mean total amount of potential conversions? if so then this just comes down to how much volume of a particular profile your looking to buy and how much any one network (or site for that matter) has available.

only my opinion but hope its valid.

RON is the standard correct.

targeting in the context of how I refer to it is geo, Os, carrier, IP, time, frequency etc and all the other good stuff weve worked hard on to fulfil the CPA needs of our buyers. its not perfect but the majority seem to be happy.

Id be happy to issue some test funds for you to fully test the targeting capabilities and do the same for you, please hit me up offline.

not entirely sure thats fair.

we have bought inventory from publishers and been burned just like any other buyer testing something out to test its quality.
the market told us that in some cases payment up front, be it tested or untested was what was required to move forward and we responded, learned in which profiles of which we were weak and improved such as expansion in to new territories or filling unsold inventory spots others never wanted and found the buyers who did want it.
I see this as benefiting the eventual buyer as this traffic was previously not being sold to them and we did it at a rate that met their CPA, benefitting the publisher for the same reasons and obviously ourselves for putting the work i nto find the buyer as well as whatever number of years building an ad server with the capabilities to facilitate such a buyer.

off to bed now but happy to continue the discussion :)

thanks to all the partners who offered support, really.

and yes the bartendeers titties were bangin!

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I'm such a sucker for freckles
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Reporo is solid.

hmm... when I saw the bartenders, they were not wearing tops. Or maybe my drink was just really, really good.

Mail sent. Sounds like a great offer

Received and replied and test funds allocated, thanks for getting in touch.
Ill leave you in the capable hands of Rainey our vp sales for the gay traffic launched in October.

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Probably not the best spam bump bro :1orglaugh

Did that person really just do that?

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I guess since now all the companies are shopping with each other, they will all be taken down by AK.