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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-02-2013 01:19 PM

More Trouble for Fabian: Playboy Club Bankruptsy - Forced to Close in Germany
 
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New trouble for Fabian Thylmann - Bankruptcy of a Cologne Playboy Club for Insolvency
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Quiet it has become to Fabian Thylmann, the ruler of some of the most popular porn sites in the world including Youporn . In December 2012, the native of Aachen, was arrested at his estate in Belgium on suspicion of tax evasion. After paying a deposit in the tens of millions Thylmann first came free. Since then he is under virtual house arrest. He had to turn in his passport and must report regularly to the police in Aachen. The tax investigation in Koblenz determined by the Cologne public prosecutor against Thylmann and the network of companies of his company Manwin.

The focus of the investigators focus is primarily the German amateur sexportal MyDirtyHobby . The website is operated according Thylmann out from Cyprus . There are indications, however , that the portal is effectively managed and supervised in Hamburg. When it comes to a process that is still unclear .

But even now threatens Fabian Thylmann possibly new trouble. This time it's not a porn site or to tax questions , but to a nightclub in Cologne - "Playboy Club" at Rheinauhafen .

In August 2012, the club had opened with a pompous party. There were all sorts of celebrities, including former Playmate Pamela Anderson, Cooper Hefner, son of Playboy founder Hugh Hefner, the pop musician Michael Wendler and nude model Micaela Schaefer.

The approximately three million euros expensive establishment in the south of Cologne was considered a prestige object , of which the owner apparently promised millions of revenue.

And probably Fabian Thylmann hoped for the success of the new club scene. He was one of the main investors and to have the club boss Jörn Shepherd million loans granted.

The concept initially sounded promising : Customers could be exclusive to 7000 euro member of the " Playboy Club " and then regularly celebrate on the side of young , busty Playmates . A bit of glamor a la Hugh Heffner in the Rhineland.

After 258 days, however, it was over . In May of this year, announced club chief shepherd, the Cologne " Playboy Club" would exclude lack of money. Only four clients had acquired the exclusive membership to date. Much needed revenue did not materialize.

According to Bild newspaper should have made the " Playboy Club " about 250 000 ? per month in sales to cover the running costs. The monthly rent of the disco was loud IMAGE to 44 000 euros , the staff cost 90 000 euros and for license - fee of ' Playboy USA ' EUR 25 000 are again due. Sums which would at any time with the revenue of the club can be settled .

As a result, many suppliers , landlords and other lenders are sitting on unpaid invoices. The rent arrears amounted , according to the IMAGE to 371 806 euros . In addition to stand still 109 624 euros social security contributions.

Total is the " Playboy Club " the lenders owe 6.5 million euros . Above all, the group of companies of Manwin Fabian Thylmann . The porn business is so loud says a report by the insolvency investigators , not only investors but actually the manager of the " Playboy Club" have been. He is now under investigation for threatening Insolvenzverschleppung . The case against the operators of the " Playboy Club" is scheduled to begin this month.
According to another article in Bild.de:

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Around 6.5 million euros owed ​​by the bankrupt club lenders, led a company of YouPorn-founder Fabian Thylmann. He should be held responsible for Jörn ex-CEO Schäfer in the bankruptcy proceedings. According to the report Thymann to have been de facto CEO.
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When is Playbooy going to make Fabian turn in his bunny ears? :winkwink: :playboy

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spiederman 09-02-2013 01:25 PM

sig spot taken

arock10 09-02-2013 01:28 PM

Another Internet guy losing money to bars and restaurants

Klen 09-02-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19783448)
Another Internet guy losing money to bars and restaurants

Well,that happen when you have sleazy dreams.

ErectMedia 09-02-2013 01:48 PM

I'll hold my comments until Mike South confirms this :1orglaugh

JFK 09-02-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 19783477)
I'll hold my comments until Mike South confirms this :1orglaugh

Thanks :1orglaugh:thumbsup

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-02-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 19783477)

I'll hold my comments until Mike South confirms this :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 19783491)

Thanks :1orglaugh:thumbsup

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pauliexray 09-02-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19783494)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pornmasta 09-02-2013 02:17 PM

I don't have an opinion on this subject.

Just Alex 09-02-2013 02:17 PM

Waiting for Mike :1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 09-02-2013 03:16 PM

in b4 mikesouth

Captain Kawaii 09-02-2013 03:18 PM

Fabes, too legit to quit.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Come on Mike, give us the real skinny on the aachen strudel boy.

Robbie 09-02-2013 03:31 PM

I'm confused...

I thought Manwin was only running the websites? Not anything else. Or am I missing something?

Phoenix 09-02-2013 03:31 PM

Is that a tax write off?

PXN 09-02-2013 03:33 PM

Wow, ADG break the news before Mike South!

Tofu 09-02-2013 03:53 PM

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-02-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19783513)

Waiting for Mike :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by PXN (Post 19783610)

Wow, ADG break the news before Mike South!

Even smut muckrakers need a day off every now and then... :winkwink:

I heard Mike is taking Labor Day off to get a pedicure:

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epitome 09-02-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19783605)
I'm confused...

I thought Manwin was only running the websites? Not anything else. Or am I missing something?

Your inability to understand something so simple is why I doubt just about everything you say. The answer is in the article.

Somebody wanted to open a Playboy Club. They licensed the name from Playboy US, which is where a lot of Playboy's money comes from these days.

The articles aren't clear, but the guy that licensed the name and was backed by Fabian with loans. Or Fabian was behind it and had a front man.

Either way, Fabian was the money man and it has zero to do with Manwin and Playboy online.

According to Mike South though none of this is possible because Fabian is a nobody and only a Manwin front that probably makes very little money.

L-Pink 09-02-2013 04:31 PM

Ahhhh, that's to bad.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-02-2013 04:45 PM

Just like Fabian didn't understand German tax law, apparently he didn't understand the German market as well as he thought he did either.

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Hef to Fabian Thylmann - "Son, I am disappoint!" :disgust

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adultmobile 09-02-2013 06:20 PM

Offline, the Playboy brand is good to sell bunny branded clothes, bags and merchandising still.

http://www.kitschshop.com/acatalog/playboy_blackmug.gif

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Robbie 09-02-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19783666)
Your inability to understand something so simple is why I doubt just about everything you say.

You have decided for some reason to make an enemy out of me. I don't know why, I've never met you. But I'll damn sure stop any and all promotion of Stand Ahead.

Thanks for being a jerk. Now I'm putting your rude ass on "Ignore" where you belong.

Talk about being unprofessional...

whOaKemosabe 09-02-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19783865)
You have decided for some reason to make an enemy out of me. I don't know why, I've never met you. But I'll damn sure stop any and all promotion of Stand Ahead.

Thanks for being a jerk. Now I'm putting your rude ass on "Ignore" where you belong.

Talk about being unprofessional...

no worries he is gay! hahahaa

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-02-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by whOaKemosabe (Post 19783871)

no worries he is gay! hahahaa

http://www.yonasu.com/wp-content/uploads/hard_gay.jpg

Robbie's just playing hard to get... :winkwink:

You could read that line several ways, lol. :upsidedow

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bean-aid 09-02-2013 09:10 PM

This will be a three pager at least. I'd like to know when hue decides manwin is a disease and cuts all ties though.

Robbie 09-02-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by whOaKemosabe (Post 19783871)
no worries he is gay! hahahaa

His sexuality is of no concern to me. I don't judge people by their sexual proclivity.

He decided for some reason to keep on personally insulting me every chance he gets. I suppose that some folks come on GFY to NOT make friends and meet others in the industry.

So be it. He can act like a prick all he wants. I just don't have to see it.

bean-aid 09-02-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19783914)
His sexuality is of no concern to me. I don't judge people by their sexual proclivity.

He decided for some reason to keep on personally insulting me every chance he gets. I suppose that some folks come on GFY to NOT make friends and meet others in the industry.

So be it. He can act like a prick all he wants. I just don't have to see it.

I think it is just a gfy thing. Like a let me talk down to you thing so i look bigger kinda thing.
He tried to eduficate me in something in another thread which i am leap years ahead of him in... so i didnt take it personally. Just shit talkin on a forum called gfy ;)

mikesouth 09-02-2013 10:12 PM

Iwas on a holiday sorry i missed this I had an email in my mailbox from the reporter.

itll be up briefly

congrats to the winners

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-02-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19783934)

I was on a holiday sorry i missed this I had an email in my mailbox from the reporter.

it'll be up briefly

congrats to the winners

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WB Uncle Mike... :smilie_we

Hope you're tanned and rested. This smut muckraking stuff is harder than it looks (stepped on my crank a little in the HIV scare thread - oops).

Can't wait to hear what you come up with next... :eek2 :helpme :party-smi

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maximiweb 09-02-2013 11:20 PM

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Markul 09-02-2013 11:25 PM

Outch:

According to Bild newspaper should have made the " Playboy Club " about 250 000 € per month in sales to cover the running costs. The monthly rent of the disco was loud IMAGE to 44 000 euros , the staff cost 90 000 euros and for license - fee of ' Playboy USA ' EUR 25 000 are again due. Sums which would at any time with the revenue of the club can be settled .

Captain Kawaii 09-02-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19783968)
Outch:

According to Bild newspaper should have made the " Playboy Club " about 250 000 ? per month in sales to cover the running costs. The monthly rent of the disco was loud IMAGE to 44 000 euros , the staff cost 90 000 euros and for license - fee of ' Playboy USA ' EUR 25 000 are again due. Sums which would at any time with the revenue of the club can be settled .

Double Ouch! - I thought Clubs were closing down, gone the way of the betamax or something. Was this a project meant to lose cash?

adendreams 09-03-2013 12:54 AM

sounds like he threw some cash behind a lousy club owner...cant see it making a dent in any of his real biz.

playboy is definitely betamax now...even in EU sounds like... dinosaur shit.. I shot a 19 year old girl recently who had never even heard of playboy - "Isn't that like a clothing line or something"

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-03-2013 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19783977)

Double Ouch! - I thought Clubs were closing down, gone the way of the betamax or something. Was this a project meant to lose cash?

The much promoted Playboy Club network TV show was cancelled by NBC after only 3 episodes in 2011, and the Playboy Club at the Palms in Las Vegas closed in 2012, but I guess that didn't mean anything to an astute businessman like Fabian Thylmann. :upsidedow

http://www.refinery29.com/static/bin.../sad-bunny.jpg

Look at what Manwin did for Playboy Radio under Fabian Thylmann's stewardship (forced off of Sirius).

There were articles about problems on the TV side of Playboy too (financial issues, as I recall).

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Manfap 09-03-2013 04:34 AM

He was in London not that long ago, so doubt he's under house arrest.

pornguy 09-03-2013 05:48 AM

The Playboy Casino here is doing fairly well but being in the Hotel Zone its hard not to. No fee to get in but the people that run the place are incompetent at best.

pauliexray 09-03-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19784018)
I shot a 19 year old girl recently who had never even heard of playboy - "Isn't that like a clothing line or something"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Wow, was this an american girl?

nikki99 09-03-2013 10:50 AM

manwin go fuck yourself

JFK 09-03-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19783968)
Outch:

According to Bild newspaper should have made the " Playboy Club " about 250 000 ? per month in sales to cover the running costs. The monthly rent of the disco was loud IMAGE to 44 000 euros , the staff cost 90 000 euros and for license - fee of ' Playboy USA ' EUR 25 000 are again due. Sums which would at any time with the revenue of the club can be settled .

That is some pretty heavy duty rent. You need to gross about 8300 euros 7 days a week, just to make ends meet. Playboy is a brand which time has passed, it does'nt mean the same thing to the current generation, as it has to the last one :2 cents:

Vendzilla 09-03-2013 11:23 AM

Pretty sad.

When my step dad died, mom was going thru his things and found his Playboy Club card. She gave it to me and I framed it. It's in storage now, but getting it out in a couple months with everything else. It's pretty cool.......

Tofu 09-03-2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19784760)
Pretty sad.

When my step dad died, mom was going thru his things and found his Playboy Club card. She gave it to me and I framed it. It's in storage now, but getting it out in a couple months with everything else. It's pretty cool.......

I'd like to see pics of that, actually. :)



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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-03-2013 11:49 AM

Interesting that Fabian would invest in a Playboy Club in Cologne of all places, since that is where his criminal tax investigation is based:

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The warrant for Thylmann's arrest was issued by the District Court of Cologne, Germany. A spokeman for the prosecutor said that Thylmann's projected extradition to Cologne is open-ended at this point, and could not disclose whether there are other suspects in the investigation.
Fabian's brother Oliver is based in Cologne, so maybe that had something to do with it:

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JFK 09-03-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19784800)
Interesting that Fabian would invest in a Playboy Club in Cologne of all places, since that is where his criminal tax investigation is based:



Fabian's brother Oliver is based in Cologne, so maybe that had something to do with it:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...o/IMG_3552.JPG

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Say it aint so Ollie :Oh crap

SGS 09-03-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 19784200)
He was in London not that long ago, so doubt he's under house arrest.

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