LiveJasmin Studios ?
 

Joust wondering ... have your sales also gone down since LJ started with their new rules ?
I mean about broadcasting, video, audio , pose, decoration, images and else rules ...

Many of our models dont even wanna work or have quit connecting on that site since.
Especially for the up to 10% deduction of their earnings.

I mean flagging them for low connection or putting them down the list is understandable.
But now paying those 10% less seems like a reap off.

Our payments have gone down there to half.

How is that working out for you ?

Seems like they are gouging to increase their profits, unfortunately at your expense...

Some models are been paid 5% - 10% less or deducion because of reasons like :

- Not enough Lightning
- Not propper decoration in the room
- Room is not corretly order (Messy)
- Model Online NOT on the right pose or position
- Cam used not recommended by LJ for example Logitech 9000 - Logitech c920 which other sites like Streamate say are gr8.
- Model have no makeup

Some of this are really exagerated ...

Well to be honest, that's a good idea, no one wants to see a cam show with low light in a messy room of a girl with no make up.

If that were true 90% of the models on chaturbate would be shut off.

And you forgett also that LJ and any webcam site makes very clear that models do not work for them !!!
Also why do you think that ruling every aspect of their broadcast to be correct if they are independent ? Including how they are to behave online ???

hopefully sponsors will start deducting 10% from affiliate payouts for messy rooms too

jasmin has always sucked cock

Funny is how some afilliates think that Fucking Models over is allright !!!
I wonder how much money there would be making if they werent any models ...
How many sign ups they would get ?

And how long it would take like in the past till someone comes with a gr8 idea also to save some money on affiliates payouts ...

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Pretty simple, protecting a brand.

Companies like AWE/LiveJasmin spend a lot of money promoting their product, you know that. They don't want potential customers turning away because of poor quality.

Not speaking for AWE, but they not only have the best quality feeds today, those feeds are getting even better = it's a big priority for the company = but there's only so much you can do on the back end to fix poor quality video, and the lighting is the biggest issue between good and bad.

You can always work for companies that are not as concerned about the quality of the user experience :2 cents:

yes, LJ also doesn´t allow nudity on free mode, do u know why?

It's obvious that this is nothing but a way to increase profits.

Dont believe thats the reason.
The only site that I know has been protecting its brand from the start only allowing a certain amount of quality models is VS and MFC.

And the case I see is that a model leaves to another site, and the customers follow them wherever they go.
So I dont believe this would make them more money at all.

I differ totally from that ...
I believe some like the Girl next door - totally Amateur Room.
Not all want to have the PRO stuck up bitch on front of the screen who would not even talk to them.

Some models have been working for years and have their way to make money.
If you are now telling them, thats not the right pose, your have to sit up, show your face and work this way, how are they supposed to be making money ?

I like amateur 'girl next door' types too, but if they're not properly lit and coming across a slow connection, what's the point -- and how does being careful with video quality and making sure you have the exposure set correctly make a girl a "stuck up bitch" who won't talk to customers?

And maybe it's my OCD but I don't care if a girl has four tits. If she can't clean her room, that's nothing but being lazy and causing a visual distraction. If someone doesn't want to bother with all that, they can cam for tips at MFC, but if I'm a paying LJ customer, that doesn't fly...

If you want only Pro's to work on your site thats cool for me.
You can not pretend though from one day to another to make all the Amateur girls to Pro´s.
First thing, it costs money, you want professional lightning and for her to change WebCam, well then pay better.

About the different on attitude between a Pro and amateur If you dont know what I mean go to any site to one of the Top models or Pro´s and see how responsive they are to you.

I was Ok when the models with less quality were flagged to the back of the list. I mean let the customer decide. But paying them as low as 20% for a show is a total reap off.

And anyways I was not here to discuss this points, I was joust wondering how other Studios were doing with this new rules !!!

Livejasmin always fined girls for wrong background (for exmaple normal background while in fetish section) or not on cam (empty room, gone to pee leave cam unattended), and lots of other reasons. Fines was like $20, $50, $100 one time, or also ban. The purpose here is: either you fix this, or we ban you, so we have no more streams like that in the site.

Now, to pay a 10% less on earned money it is a little different than a fine or ban. If you just pay less %, you keep them there working anyway. The members can preview the girl in free chat so she got no lightning and messy room background, still the member private her. Perhaps he got a fetish on messy amateur video, this fetish exists. It was the choice of the user to private a girl with bad light and background, at full price.

Yep that's the key point right there. If the member wasn't happy to private the girl with that light and that background at that price after previewing her in free chat, he wouldn't have taken her private. I agree with listing lower quality rooms after higher, but it's unfair to suddenly cut the amount paid to the performer whose look is deemed lower quality unless LJ will also be charging the member less to reflect the perceived poorer service he received, but we all know there is not a chance in hell that they will be doing that. :1orglaugh

Thats exactly my point, is not like this is a membership site and members go straight to pvt without preview.

- also now your room is "messy" if a few toys are on the bed or if the pillows are not organized.
- And the background is not correct if you have not decorated like a studio room.

I stopped doing business with LJ long time ago for other BS reasons... I'm not surprised to see this... in fact I'm surprised that there's still lot of models on it with the poor quality of their customers.

My 2 cents...

You rip what you saw.

Yeah that is also true.
It used to be our most profitable site.
Now I believe it could be on 5th place.

:thumbsup

We love the policy... its takes out all the shitty studios and models who cannot meet minimum quality standards... So for companies like us that actually invest a significant ammount of $ to provide our models with top notch facilities (Decoration, lightning, equipment, bandwith, support) its great to know that sites like livejasmin incentive their studios and models to keep up with good quality..

Several studios and models have decided to quit working livejasmin due this policy..Wich im sorry for the term but in most cases are incompetent / mediocre studios and models... Less competition for us!! So i hope livejasmin applies the policy very strictly... Just my :2 cents:

Great move from Live Jasmin, Im glad they are doing this.

Dude, Latina America has 20+ countries and you see pure colombians in Cam Sites, and there is a very good reason for it, and guess what? It's not because they have cheap Breast Implants over there....

And they are all locked up in the same room and separated by Drywall Lockers. That's fucked up.

They are like Slaves of some Colombian like you, LatinCams. You cannot pretend to make money all your life with that business model, LatinCams. You complain about the percentage cut??? But you take a massive slice out of your models.

If your models worked on their own from their home, they would do 3 times more than locked up in that apartment, working for you.

I'm glad they are doing this and I hope they kick all these pieces of shit out of their business. Good move AWEMPIRE.

Better do your math, they are paying less every time, since they started with new system :

6.Legend $2500 < 60%
5.Superstar $1500 - $2500 < 50%
4.Star $650 - $1500 < 45%
3.Famous $300 - $650 < 40%
2.Accomplished $100 - $300 < 35%
1.Aspiring $100 < 30%

What really means 1 - 100 = 30%
1 - 300 = 33%
1 - 650 = 37%
1 - 1500 = 41%
1 - 2500 = 44%

Compairing to the 35 - 40% they were paying years ago.
And later 30 - 35%
You are probably also loosing money now, unless every of your models is selling at least 1500 USD which by knowing the market and the site i doubt.

How are you managing with the models that work from home ?

Now you referring to the wrong person ... we do not have such Studios.
We pay our models up to 94% of the earnings.

So keep talking shit about a byz that you dont know!!!

Here an example of the nice deductions :

Our records indicate that you have violated the rules of LiveJasmin.com.

Violation: Showing sexually explicit content in Free chat or Non-nude categories

Based on this violation we deducted the following amount from your sales: 10 USD

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Seems to be true, lots of search results to confirm it. :winkwink:

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They are clowns.

I like chicks that don't have makeup on. I don't give two shits about her room. In fact... I prefer it to look lived in. I don't want it to look like the display in a department store window. And if she is a total skank about displaying some skin in the free area I don't like her.

you do not know much about women and their work habits do you? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

girl become camgirls not because we pull them out of their neuro surgeon career but because they are lazy shits that like to NOT work :1orglaugh

girls with no guidance will NEVER do the research or figure this for a serious job LOL...its funny to see an internet marketer expect chicken brain models to be all IT and geek about a high tech profession like camming :1orglaugh for fucks sake it takes me half an hour to explain how the encoder is turned on LOL and when the first tech issue happens do you think her chicken brain will know how to fix it? :1orglaugh you think the average girl will do her research on stripperweb? :1orglaugh

the chicken box studios are actually doing the girls a favor, because without it, they would have no work at all...you simply do not know much about women, this is your problem...

@latincams

have you noticed a sharp drop in other sites in the last 5-6 days? SM/MFC/imlive...

man the last 5 days have literally been unprecedented...thought it was internet trouble but other studios from other countries report the same almost...

Yep.. No argue there.. im aware about the change in %.. plus theres several other stuff i do not like about them.. But hey.. every site has its Pros and Cons.. Its still a good money maker.. Yeah i know there are sites out there that offer up to 70%.. But does it convert the same? At the end what matters is how much $ is going to your bank.. Not the %... I rather make 30% of 100 than 70% of 10... Anyway theres a lot of factors that come in to play on why some people make money with X company and some people dont.. So far our experience with jasmin has been great.. and we love the new policy since its not affecting us at all...

About Home models.. We dont really do home models, i know you guys specialize more on satelites.. We rather have more control and better perfomance.. so we are more focus on runing studios.. And the very few home models we offer them sites where we have more control such as naked.com or playboylive.com... Dont have to worry about them going direct or jumping to other studios. :thumbsup

Really???

And why do I see some COLOMBIAN MODELS working for "some" COLOMBIAN Studios locked up in those Dry-Wall Boxes, Smoking Weed and Snorting Coke on CAMERA???

Can you answer that too?? Do you think we are so naive to don't know that the very same COLOMBIAN STUDIOS controlling them are providing them drugs to perform on camera?

I won't give names nor name the companies they work for, BUT they are performing in the biggest Cam Sites in this industry.

I wonder what CAM SITES Owners have to say about this... I can understand that cam sites are not monitoring everything 24/7, but if they ever saw one of these COLOMBIAN Models Snorting Coke and smoking weed for 30 minutes in a show, would they kick out the whole COLOMBIAN Studio out of the business FOR LIFE???...

I mean, well, its something that could put the site in real trouble, if they are not aware of this. It's something extremely serious to deal with...

Nothing else to add...

Ciao.

if you want to get treamed well as a cam studio or a cam model
go to streamate
simple as that

we see free fucking and free everything on streamate all the time... :2 cents:
totally different rules it seems :pimp

They are not locked up, you are just jumping to conclusions and trying to hold studio bosses accountable for your conclusions.

Strippers/whores/porn actresses are FUCKED UP (most of them). Its just the way it is. Now you can stand in your ivory tower and preach how "you would do it better" (but in reality you do not lift a finger to keep these women off the streets) or how they would, somehow, do better if they did not have a cubicle job because you have an "opinion" but you know shit about it...

You want to know what I have to say about models in cubicles snorting coke? In my sisters bank most of the staff work in cubicles and snort coke and work for less money. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Message to all the wussy boys who think studios exploit models:

Well why the fuck do you not give them a job then?

(complete silence....crickets chirping....no answer......)

Why just bitch about something when you aint doing shit to help?

(silence....like in space...where there is nothing to carry the sound waves )

Want to help? Then tip them :2 cents::2 cents:

Yes we have noticed.
It has been weird in general.
It has not affected our general sales since we have so many models.
But we have seen that not all the models have been able to keep their usual sales.
Loos like the models have to invest more time online to make the same amount of money than before.

Mate im sorry to tell you, but you seemed BiPolar ... it was a total different person who wrotte your first post.

Now you giving me a little right and before you said """its great to know that sites like livejasmin incentive their studios """

So, how does that incentive work ? Raising standards for the job and lowering percentages for the payments ? I dont understand you :(

No offense and im not saying at all is your case, but our experience with 100´s registered models is that only the lowest quality models are staying at LiveJasmin, the rest are moving on.

You are watching too many Cartel and mafia movies :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Some people joust dont understand and have no Idea about this byz.

They really think that every model earns 1000´s of dollars every day.
Which is not true, a good model might make 100 - 400 Dollars per day.
And if a model makes such money she wouldnt stay long in a studio.
She would most probably go home and work on her own.

So that means that at the studio there would be models earning between 0 - 100 dollars per day.
And they would pay the model between 50 - 60% of the earnings.
In a big city where costs are High (Rent-Internet-Electricity-Water-Gas-Personal-Tech Maintainance-Etc) they are left with 40- 50% to pay those costs and have some money left.

What this means in other words is that if they get a house rented with 4-5 Rooms theyll have to build some cubicles to have as many models working in that place and maximize their earnings.

About keeping models almost as hostages ... you got to be stupid to make this comment and not knowing the Actitude of Colombian Woman or how they really are and how hard it is to control them in any way.

Of course it is so easy to "control" woman outside Colombia :)

Im refering to the new rating deduction system... I think its a good incentive for companies like us that actually meet good quality standards... We are not receiving any deductions.. When many other studios are actually getting deductions... So even do its not an incentive per se.... at the end its an incentive for us.. i totally agree with their policy, makes total sense.. remember darwin "Survival of the fittest". Plain and simple.

Im giving you a tlittle right about the percentages and new payment scale... Wich was something they implemented months ago.. So thats a different discussion..

And about your last statement... We keep having very good quality models on jasmin doing very good (4-8 k bi-weekly).. So i dont see a trend or good models moving on to other sites.. In fact recently what we have sense is that TOP profile models are having it difficult to make the same ammount of cash in usual Top sites like mfc since its seems that those sites are getting over saturated with new models.. Maybe jasmin has something to do with this?

wonderful creatures aren't they? just bless their little hearts :1orglaugh

I have it recorded on VIDEO.

I just need to find out if any of these models work for YOU.

If they do, you will be banned from this business and kicked for life.

I don't think the Big Cam Sites, want the US Authorities to see that video, of the models working for their site, smoking weed and snorting COCAINE on camera while performing. Instead, they will just ban the STUDIO for life, to prevent any involvement into this.

It seems you have not even a remote idea of the trouble you can be into. Keep laughing, I want to see if you keep laughing when you get involved in real serious trouble.

Fucking hypocrite.

Just sayin...

The more I read your comments, the more I realize you are an Idiot. :1orglaugh
Not even worth to comment !!!

I joust dont see wheres the incentive you are referreing to. I mean for me incentives are Money and Prizes or awards. We got on this byz 15 years ago joust for the money and that has not changed. We have build ourselfs a big name as you probably know, and thats great, but that without the check aint worth shit.

Is hard to believe that any model earning 4000 - 8000 Dollars ? would stay at a studio.
As satellite fully understandable in a Studio I dont know how you managing that.
Is hard to see a trend when you have a Studio or few Studios. I mean as Studio owner im sure you are who decides where your models work nomatter what.