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Minte 11-17-2013 06:52 AM

JFK - Big week for conspiracy theorists
 
I heard one last night on television I hadn't heard.

That the head shot that killed JFK was an accidental shot from the AR15 of a secret service agent in the car behind. The main point was the type of bullet that created the massive head wound was not what would've been typical from the weapon Oswald used. That it was a frangible(sp?) round that was being used by the secret service.

So you don't have to look that word up..it's a round that explodes on impact rather than just making a hole, like the first round that hit Kennedy did.

Mediamix 11-17-2013 06:54 AM

OH GOD... Here we go again...

Harmon 11-17-2013 07:11 AM

in before wehateporn

Minte 11-17-2013 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 19875946)
OH GOD... Here we go again...

50th anniversary. It was bound to come up..

tony286 11-17-2013 07:14 AM

We will never know actually what happened. I dont think Oswald did it by himself.

Minte 11-17-2013 07:17 AM

http://www.hngn.com/articles/8845/20...lleges-new.htm

The author of a book about this theory was who I saw on tv.

Officially, I think Oswald did it alone.

SilentKnight 11-17-2013 07:20 AM

Too much time has passed - too many key players are dead.

I don't think the truth will ever be revealed.

L-Pink 11-17-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19875955)
We will never know actually what happened. I dont think Oswald did it by himself.

:thumbsup

Harmon 11-17-2013 07:27 AM

Many years ago when I was in a drug/alcohol rehab somebody was caught taking a Twinkie from the area where we ate. Said Twinkie was found in the room across the hall where I was sleeping. It was found at about (give or take, from what I remember) about 2-3am. I was groggy as fuck.

What I do remember? I remember waking up and hearing the night nurses (who happened to be of both genders) arguing in a nonchalant fashion with some bitch that was coming down hard off of being a Xanax addict.

I guess they found it under her bed or something. The male nurse asked her if she did it. She was adamantly denying it over and over until he said, "STOP! OK, it wasn't you... it was the third Twinkie man on the grassy knoll..."

End of story.

Carry on.

Minte 11-17-2013 07:31 AM

Vincent Bugliosi who is 100% Oswald did it alone was on the same show and he had a good point. If it were a hit..wouldn't there have been a car ready to take Oswald away quickly? Instead, Oswald walks around the city, shoots a cop and then pulls that same gun on the officers that arrested him at the theater.

Harmon 11-17-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19875965)
Vincent Bugliosi who is 100% Oswald did it alone was on the same show and he had a good point. If it were a hit..wouldn't there have been a car ready to take Oswald away quickly? Instead, Oswald walks around the city, shoots a cop and then pulls that same gun on the officers that arrested him at the theater.

Well, he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with. He was kind of like a walking conspiracy theory within himself in my opinion. Always paranoid, thinking that people, the world, the government etc. was out to get him.

Maybe he just planned it shitty. People do that everyday in bank robberies, home invasions, etc. Fuck, they even plan shit poorly when they choose what stock to buy or what whore to marry.

tony286 11-17-2013 07:53 AM

http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-har...n-sharpshooter

Simulating the JFK Assassination
For the benefit of the Warren Commission, expert riflemen from the US Army and the FBI attempted to duplicate the assassin’s task, using the rifle that had been discovered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
Even after fixing some of the gun’s mechanical problems, and despite firing at stationary targets from an easier vantage point, they failed to achieve the combination of accuracy and speed demanded of the lone gunman: two hits out of three, within about six seconds (see Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.446 and pp.403–10).


The read the rest of the page from that link. its really interesting. He didn't do it alone.

Best-In-BC 11-17-2013 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 19875946)
OH GOD... Here we go again...

If you were moronic enough to believe the story your ovously a idiot .

Best-In-BC 11-17-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19875967)
Well, he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with. He was kind of like a walking conspiracy theory within himself in my opinion. Always paranoid, thinking that people, the world, the government etc. was out to get him.

They were you fucking tool, CIA was working against him.

Sly 11-17-2013 08:11 AM

It's always fun when a civil conversation turns into a name-calling fest with poor grammar and spelling.

Harmon 11-17-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 19875980)
They were you fucking tool, CIA was working against him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...-u_mad_tho.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...arrow-down.gif

Rochard 11-17-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19875944)
I heard one last night on television I hadn't heard.

That the head shot that killed JFK was an accidental shot from the AR15 of a secret service agent in the car behind. The main point was the type of bullet that created the massive head wound was not what would've been typical from the weapon Oswald used. That it was a frangible(sp?) round that was being used by the secret service.

So you don't have to look that word up..it's a round that explodes on impact rather than just making a hole, like the first round that hit Kennedy did.

I've been telling people this for years, even here on GFY....

It's very simple - Oswald fired a shot or two, missed, but when the Secret Service responded by pulling out their firearms... One fired by accident hitting JFK from behind. The cover up was that the Secret Service completely fucked up and killed the man they were supposed to protect.

I said it here on GFY multiple times:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=8728901&postcount=11

Harmon 11-17-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19876018)
I've been telling people this for years, even here on GFY....

It's very simple - Oswald fired a shot or two, missed, but when the Secret Service responded by pulling out their firearms... One fired by accident hitting JFK from behind. The cover up was that the Secret Service completely fucked up and killed the man they were supposed to protect.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand welcome to the no fly l|$t :winkwink:

L-Pink 11-17-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19875944)
I heard one last night on television I hadn't heard.

That the head shot that killed JFK was an accidental shot from the AR15 of a secret service agent in the car behind. The main point was the type of bullet that created the massive head wound was not what would've been typical from the weapon Oswald used. That it was a frangible(sp?) round that was being used by the secret service.

So you don't have to look that word up..it's a round that explodes on impact rather than just making a hole, like the first round that hit Kennedy did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19876018)
I've been telling people this for years, even here on GFY....

It's very simple - Oswald fired a shot or two, missed, but when the Secret Service responded by pulling out their firearms... One fired by accident hitting JFK from behind. The cover up was that the Secret Service completely fucked up and killed the man they were supposed to protect.

I said it here on GFY multiple times:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=8728901&postcount=11


I've never heard that theory before. Really could explain additional shots.

.

_Richard_ 11-17-2013 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19876028)
I've never heard that theory before. Really could explain additional shots.

.

additional all bullseye shots?

right

Harmon 11-17-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19876037)
additional all bullseye shots?

right

Have you ever seen Pulp Fiction? The scene in the Nova? Happens bro :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

She'll be home soon...

wehateporn 11-17-2013 10:28 AM

The controlled media want us to argue over which CIA-asset shot him, rather than why the Banker's arranged for his elimination in the first place. It's very easy to see the reasons why the Bankers killed JFK :2 cents:

Paul 11-17-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19876076)
The controlled media want us to argue over which CIA-asset shot him, rather than why the Banker's arranged for his elimination in the first place. It's very easy to see the reasons why the Bankers killed JFK :2 cents:

I know I'm going to regret asking this...

Why?

L-Pink 11-17-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19876177)
I know I'm going to regret asking this...

Why?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crockett 11-17-2013 12:25 PM

Ok.. Just for the sake of argument.. If indeed a SS guy accidentally shot his m16 from the car behind.. Logically the bullet would have gone through the windshield of that car.. There wasn't any cars running around with shot out windshields that I recall..

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-17-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19876076)

The controlled media want us to argue over which CIA-asset shot him, rather than why the Banker's arranged for his elimination in the first place. It's very easy to see the reasons why the Bankers killed JFK :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19876177)

I know I'm going to regret asking this...

Why?

http://www.politifake.org/image/poli...1315162082.jpg

:stoned

ADG

Mutt 11-17-2013 01:06 PM

Of all the semi plausible theories the one that is hardest for people to accept is Oswald working alone, they want to believe that a sinister network deep inside the highest places murdered their young idealistic leader.

Oswald acted alone, that there wasn't one credible detailed deathbed confession from anybody inside the conspiracy to me confirms it.

Robbie 11-17-2013 01:12 PM

WTF??? Somebody shot JFK???

What will happen to FUBAR now, and who will take pics at Internext???

fitzmulti 11-17-2013 01:23 PM

Who needs the Warren Commission Report, when we have all of you guys here on GFY 50 years later?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-17-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19876205)

Of all the semi plausible theories the one that is hardest for people to accept is Oswald working alone, they want to believe that a sinister network deep inside the highest places murdered their young idealistic leader.

Oswald acted alone, that there wasn't one credible detailed deathbed confession from anybody inside the conspiracy to me confirms it.

You apparently have not seen this new enhanced JFK assassination video, which reveals the identity of the real shooter:



:stoned

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seeandsee 11-17-2013 01:36 PM

who can prove that shit now

Minte 11-17-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19875967)
Well, he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with. He was kind of like a walking conspiracy theory within himself in my opinion. Always paranoid, thinking that people, the world, the government etc. was out to get him.

Maybe he just planned it shitty. People do that everyday in bank robberies, home invasions, etc. Fuck, they even plan shit poorly when they choose what stock to buy or what whore to marry.

Taking the Bugliosi comment a little further.
If it had been the Mafia,CIA,Cuban Government or any large well organized group behind the killing they would've had it planned a little better. I would see that escape car to quickly ferret Oswald away..or more likely kill him.

$5 submissions 11-17-2013 01:56 PM

The Mafia theory seems to have legs. Mob prosecutions and inquiries did go down once RFK left the admin.

2MuchMark 11-17-2013 02:25 PM

I started to really get into conspiracy theories when the movie JFK came out and for a while they all seemed really interesting until I figured out that it is just bullshit made-up answers because real answers to real questions just can't be found.

Rochard 11-17-2013 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19876182)
Ok.. Just for the sake of argument.. If indeed a SS guy accidentally shot his m16 from the car behind.. Logically the bullet would have gone through the windshield of that car.. There wasn't any cars running around with shot out windshields that I recall..

I believe some of the agents were outside of cars standing on running boards.

Rochard 11-17-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19876292)
I started to really get into conspiracy theories when the movie JFK came out and for a while they all seemed really interesting until I figured out that it is just bullshit made-up answers because real answers to real questions just can't be found.

As with any widely witnessed and over analyzed event, you will always have more questions than answers. It's like a car accident witnesses by ten people from seven different angles - you'll walk away with three or four very different versions of what happened.

It's just like the magic bullet - is it possible it did all of things it did? Sure? Highly unlikely and hard to believe, but anything is possible.

Minte 11-17-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19876456)
As with any widely witnessed and over analyzed event, you will always have more questions than answers. It's like a car accident witnesses by ten people from seven different angles - you'll walk away with three or four very different versions of what happened.

It's just like the magic bullet - is it possible it did all of things it did? Sure? Highly unlikely and hard to believe, but anything is possible.

Agent George Hickey is the one that was suspected of the shot.

wehateporn 11-17-2013 06:11 PM

Chomsky on JFK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQjYoTyUIuc&t=33m22s

directfiesta 11-17-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19876257)
..or more likely kill him.


hummmmm.........
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Minte 11-17-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19876526)
hummmmm.........
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm sure that if the mafia was behind it.. they'd set it up for Oswald to shoot the president and then give him $20 bucks to go catch a movie.

420 11-17-2013 06:52 PM

NOVA recently aired a program about it. They ran some forensic tests that were interesting. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html

Minte 11-18-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 19876553)
NOVA recently aired a program about it. They ran some forensic tests that were interesting. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html

I had that recorded on my DVR and watched it last night. Not much new information. But the way they tested the rifle Oswald used was much better than anything I had seen before. There was no doubt that the *magic bullet* was very probable. Also the explanation about why JFK's head went opposite the direction of the bullet entrance was interesting. I had not heard that before.

PR_Glen 11-18-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19877077)
I had that recorded on my DVR and watched it last night. Not much new information. But the way they tested the rifle Oswald used was much better than anything I had seen before. There was no doubt that the *magic bullet* was very probable. Also the explanation about why JFK's head went opposite the direction of the bullet entrance was interesting. I had not heard that before.

It would also clear up the 'exploding bullet' thing as well. Those long range shots make a mess of anyone, add in the fact that a brain is about the same as any substance under pressure and you have a typical result. At close range the bullet doesn't get the chance to expand unless it is specifically designed that away.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-20-2013 03:10 PM

http://storyvore.dsdinteractive.com/...unControl2.jpg

http://www.123posters.com/images/famous/p-jfk2.jpg

"A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on." - JFK

:stoned

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wehateporn 11-21-2013 05:22 PM

Bill Hicks dead at 32...hmmm


BFT3K 11-21-2013 06:03 PM



https://youtube.com/watch?v=NZKjm9ezTXQ

JFK 11-22-2013 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19875958)
Too much time has passed - too many key players are dead.

I don't think the truth will ever be revealed.

yup, not in our lifetime:2 cents:

JFK 11-22-2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19876207)
WTF??? Somebody shot JFK???

What will happen to FUBAR now, and who will take pics at Internext???

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup I will be magically resurected after 3 days :Graucho

TNVeric 11-22-2013 06:05 PM

I can put this to rest
 
It wasn't the "bankers" or the mafia, or the cia, or castro, or the soviets.

All those mentioned had way too much to lose by getting caught. The price would have been enormous and there was no clear way to pull something like that with 100% certainty that everyone involved would keep quiet.

Now here is what I can relate to.. It is documented that just before arriving at the Dallas police station, Jack Ruby went to a western union office to wire one of his showgirls some cash. I have used western union numerous times to wire money to my models and I can tell you it is not a quick process today, so for certain it was even slower 50 years ago. So there is NO WAY Jack Ruby on his way to an EXTREMELY CRITICAL function to silence the "patsy" Oswald, would stop at western union. That is perhaps the most implausible part of the whole theory.

oppoten 11-22-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNVeric (Post 19882894)
All those mentioned had way too much to lose by getting caught.

Even the ones that were above the law, and remain so?


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