Malaysian air crash in Eastern Ukraine? This could the excuse that Putin was looking for....
 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-28354787



Initial reports are still vague and unconfirmed....



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295 people on board, according to the report.... but we will see





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i don't understand the Putin reference tbh

i find it more mysterious that it's another Malaysian 777...

Since it's in the Eastern Ukraine, Putin could easily turn it into being an act "obviously" committed by the "Nazi's" in Kiev, and therefore a justification for invasion. You can't be unaware of the volatility of the situation there...





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IF this had something with the local situation, then more likely the other way round: blame it on the separists so the Ukrainian army can go crazy on them...

AP news is claiming it was shot down?

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) -- A Ukrainian official said a Malaysian passenger plane carrying 295 people was shot down Thursday over a town in the east of the country.

Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet) when it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher. A similar launcher was seen by Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-17-11-46-31

I fail to see how a plane shot down would give Putin justification to invade. In fact, just the opposite. The tensions in the area are now causing passenger airliners to be shot down.

and so it begins.

putin is looking for an excuse?

the plane was high, you must have jets to shut it down, so must have been army, if really shut down? also, from that high, it would be falling down 10s of kilometters, so if the plane never entered russian zone, it must have been taken down at ukraininan territory, right? now, the question, why would ukrainian army shoot down civil plane? :2 cents: whoops, strange things :)

fucking russians shot it down with a mobile SAM

Putin: The situation in Ukraine is now so dire that civilian planes are being shot down. We must intervene and completely control Ukraine before they start shooting down our own civilian planes.

Gosh, that was difficult.

i am.. fucking shocked Richard. you are seeing this quite clearly.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you forgot about the fact it was the 'russian rebels' who did this.. so.. the logic here makes very little sense

BINGO!




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Unfortunately not. Google for 9К317 Buk. Both Ukrainian army and separatists (both sides of conflict are stupid monkeys) could do that. If you remember, this happened already in 2001: http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/eu...a.plane.crash/

So only the investigation will show the truth. I would blame both sides (the Ukrainian army and separatists) with a 50/50 probability.

In 2001, Ukraine's military shot down a commercial plane flying from Israel to Russia.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-airliner.html

It could have been the CIA or Mossad. Doesn't matter who shot it down. It's propaganda and framing, you know this.

Sky News also says it was shot down...

http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/ma...h-295-on-board

russkies have mobile SAMs that can hit targets at 70k feet altitude

ukrainskie have the same SAMs. Idiot. If it was hit in the ukrainian sky, it was hit by their fuckin' army or by their fuckin' separatists. It's a small Africa in the center of Europe.

I really don't understand why civilian planes fly over the Ukraine...

http://static.businessinsider.com/im...cbb8/image.jpg

what i know, is there is only one side here who seems to want war.

It has NOTHING to do with how it was actually shot down or by whom. It has EVERYTHING to do with who uses it for what kind of excuse to pull what kind of actions...




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https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1145596

ruskie terrorists leader (former KGB agent, lived in Moscow) says they shot down the jet before it was reported it's passenger Boeing, not Ukrainian military one

http://storage1.censor.net.ua/images...b4/640x351.jpg

it was later reported by ruskie propaganda LifeNews channel. now the information gets deleted on their side

http://storage1.censor.net.ua/images...45/640x389.jpg

uskie terrors begun to celebrate the victory too early. they thought they took down Ukrainian military jet

an official ukrainian schizophrenic already spoke up

"An advisor to the Ukrainian interior minister, Anton Gerashenko, says the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 metres (33,000 feet) when it was "hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher", in a post on his Facebook page, according to the Associated Press."

This world is fucked. I hope no one we knew was on that plane.

Most people on the plane were dutch..:-(

I always see everything clearly. Some people don't always agree with me.

Bah. The world has turned to shit

So, here we go again:

1) The Ukrainian army is equipped with 9К317 Buk's.
2) The Ukrainian separatists have it too. Proof from 26th of June: http://rusvesna.su/news/1404041521 (use Google translate).

So they both could do that. The only thing I don't understand is why some clowns here try to find any relation with Russia.

almost exactly the same type of statement a few days ago:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5588882.html

'Dmitry Tymchuk, a military analyst who coordinates closely with Ukraine's Defense Ministry, said that since rebels are unlikely to have any planes capable of conducting the bombing, there could only be one explanation.........'

".....Only Russian aviation could have performed the airstrike on Snizhne," he wrote on his Facebook account.'

i mean really.

Interesting.... The plane was at 33k miles, but a buck launch only goes up to 22k miles.

CIA and Mossad wasn't a conspiracy example. It was an "it doesn't matter who did it" example. :winkwink:

Most likely a lone group of soldiers from XYZ group making an extremely horrific, stupid, tragic decision.

Ukrianian Defense Minister just released a statement saying it was not the Ukrainian military.

It was a plane in Ukraine airspace near the Russian boarder. If it was shot down, it's more likely the work of the rebels mistaking it for a troop transport and not Ukrainians whom would obviously have it on their radars.

If it turns out to be shot down by the rebels, Russia is going to be up shit creek, because the weapons obviously came from them.

you mean.. what the western backed fascists will do? the city has been under bombardment for days.. it's surrounded.

who did this, who is going to use this, is already very clear.

too bad there can't be 'front row seats' for this, eh.

They can go up to 42 Km or 26 miles airplane was flying at 10Km

Yet 9/11 and Building 7 ...

How do you know it was shot down?

The plane was at 33k feet

Sober the fuck up and learn to read properly.

His predecessor stated the same in 2001 when the Ukrainian army shot down the Israeli-Russian civilian plane (perhaps you forgot it). There was even no war there. They did it during the military exercises. What a nice country, isn't it?

Once again. The plane was 100% hit from the Ukrainian territory and the full responsibility now lays on the official Ukrainian government. Because it doesn't really matter who did it - the Ukrainian army or the Ukrainian separatists. Both sides are crazy and uncontrollable barbarians. Why the hell Ukrainian government has allowed civilian flights over the war zone??? There is a fuckin' war! Both sides has Buk SAM's etc. Why the civilian flights are allowed?

Think about that.

It's really too early to be pointing fingers. We have the Ukrainian military, the rebels, and the Russians all in the area, tensions are high, and ALL of them are most likely using the same exact weapons.

If it was a BUK missile, both Russia and Ukraine uses them.

Get the brain already, pigshit.

That's all speculation at this point. It could of crashed on it's own, but given it was in the airspace where the conflict is going on, there is a pretty good chance it could of been shot down. Only time will tell.

Are you serious? Here is how the weapon came to them: http://rusvesna.su/news/1404041521 (the mofos took it directly from the Ukrainian army) - use the Google Translate already. Switch on your brain and stop making all these stupid comments.

An adviser to the Ukraine interior minister says the plane was shot down and we're going with that source full bore? I don't think so.

So they were flying in space?

https://twitter.com/MatevzNovak

looks like it broke up in the air?

You are very wrong. We do not know where the missile came from; In fact, we aren't even sure if the plane was shot down.

Even if it was shot down AND the missile was shot from Ukrainian territory, that still doesn't tell us who launched the missile. It could be the Ukrainian military, it could be rebels, and it could be Russia who snuck a launcher into Ukrainian territory.

So we do not know ANYTHING 100%. In fact, all we know at this point is that a plane went down - nothing else.

He meant feet of course. That because you guys have to use the metric system as the other civilized World does :)