Who is smarter? Theists or Atheists? Make the test.
 

Lets find out. There is a free IQ test at isgodformorons.com

If you have balls, post your IQ here.

One side thinks an invisible man in the clouds is watching them masturbate. I don't think an IQ test is necessary to see which side is smarter ... And anyone who believes an online IQ test is already identified as pretty dumb.

http://isgodformorons.com/result/B66YTDIT1I

126 on god side

case closed. The idea of needing a test in the first place is retarded.

Do you always complain about everything? If you don't like something, don't waste time on it.

Complain?

http://static.squarespace.com/static...-31842991.jpeg

This... :2 cents::thumbsup

what about those of us whom are neither atheist nor theist?

Just like I don't concern myself with whether or not santa claus exists, same with god.

why do peeps categorize others as whether or not they believe in god like we all had to make some big life decision and pick a side.

you're on one side or the other of this debate and iq is linked to that?

seems all very silly really.

Faith is faith, be it theist or atheist.

Basic IQ test, not sure how or why theist or atheist enters into it. I'd imagine there would be highs and lows from both groups, I doubt seeing sequence, rotation, and shape differs based on one's beliefs.

Although based on their posted averages I see the "God" side is winning by a figleaf. :D

Yep, not so true. A lack of faith is the one side versus having faith.

"a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods." I don't have faith in no god, I lack proof of a god/gods.

Glad you got in early...... as usual on point :thumbsup

Theists are generally happier

Catherine Sanderson, a psychology professor at Amherst College, recently gave a talk, ?Positive Psychology: The Science of Happiness,? in which she described things that we think will make us happy but don?t and things that really do. It turns out that a private plane would not make me happier. (I?m still not convinced.) It also turns out that people who have religious or spiritual beliefs are happier than those who don?t, no matter what their beliefs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...3a9_story.html

You should accept Santa into your life. It's not too late to repent before xmas!

I feel the same way about politics. Choose a side and feel like you belong. In silly shit we trust.

There are concerns over that?

:thumbsup

I'll have to queue up some santa movies, sing some lalalas and get my life back in order so I can get that GI Joe with the Kung-Fu grip.

of course not, that's my point. why concern ourselves over whether or not some old white dude with a gray beard exists or not?

both are equally silly right?

Here a 120 on atheist side:
http://isgodformorons.com/result/9PR1DC8CYD

Interestingly, before I took test the home page shown average results: god people 101 atheists 99 (atheists losing). Now is god people 101 atheists 105. There must be only few dozen tests stored if a single test can change that much, or, there's lots of tests being done in past 20 minutes (unlikely). I am proud to have changed the balance of atheist into victory :)

A couple of notes:

1) Solving those mensa-like tests based on images is NOT an IQ test. It only tests how much you are good in solving image tests like that. I know smart people who score bad and some idiots who score einsten level, makes no sense.

2) Even if we measure how smart you are to simply solve image puzzles... well those 30 tests are a lot and people (including me) is in hurry, while others not. Not same if a guy solve it in 20 minutes or in 50 minutes etc. There should be also a time counter... in fact I clicked randomly a few solutions where I did not guessed within a minute or two as I hurried, but I could have guessed a few of these if I was there taking more minutes (or hours!?) for specific tests.

3) Most atheists taking psylocibe magic mushrooms and/or salvia divinorum and or ayuharska (dmt) and/or peyote (mescaline) a few times, it may become believers. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment

Even an LSD precursor, Ergot fungi in rye, caused witch hunt (people seen ghosts lol):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism
http://customers.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/ergot.htm

Some people discussing it:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=644156
http://duncantrussell.com/forum/disc...-an-atheist/p1

Yes, the tests just started, so every result matters. Only 30 tests have been started yet and only 12 tests have been finished. The test is not super hard, but its also not the average easy online IQ test, it requires some brain use, so just like in life, most people give up when it gets complicated.

That means you are an atheist, because atheist is not something you choose not to be, its something you are if you don't believe in god. At least thats how I understand it.

I see what you are saying but then that would mean I have no choice in my own faith, I don't agree with that. To just label me as athiest because I don't have faith in the opposite isn't an accurate when I've never personally made myself choose between one or the other.

so how can I be one or the other in terms of faith when I've never made that choice?

see what I am saying?

Specifically though, I have faith in mathematics. that's where my faith lies.

I prayed for an answer to this question and got some guy telling me to think for myself. So i dunno.

Agnostic?

Faith and belief = Theists

Question everything (Einstein) Doubt Everything (Marx)= Science = Atheists

"Faith" = "Give us money even though we have nothing of any substance to sell you"

Or as I like to refer to it: Con Artist

Only religion can convince people to actually believe something that isn't real. And even when people are shown that the same story has been used by different religions thousands of years before Christianity...they will still ignore all the facts and have "faith".

Kinda convenient that "God" doesn't bother to just show himself to the world isn't it?
And double convenient that nobody can ever come back from the dead and let us all know if it's all real or not.

"There's a sucker born every minute"

I scored 218.

whoops!!! I'm a theist and I do not believe a man lives in the clouds.. .. you really need to edit yourself :2 cents:

So true, but I think it is so true and religion knows it, that's why they are really into teaching children, get them before their critical faculties develop.

ask a theist extremist like osama or dubya if theism is silly. hundreds of thousands of innocents are dead thanks to their belief systems.

not to mention the rich & extensive history of theists oppressing both athiests & pagans & everyone else not on the theism crazy train.

but as education & enlightenment advance, so does atheism, while theism withers in their alter boy sex romps & wanton massacres of innocents in the middle east.

:2 cents:

If I "edited" myself for every fringe case of belief or non-belief, I'd do little else. The obvious (well, to most people anyway) point is that theists are, by and large, swallowing a pretty ridiculous and unlikely story. Thus, measuring "IQ", a scientific standard, to help support "faith", a non-scientific standard, is a bit silly. By definition faith is in direct opposition to IQ, as it requires you to set aside logic and intellect in favor of fairy tales.

Just because you think you are a very special snowflake, does not mean that you are visible in a blizzard. :2 cents:

See Sig!!!

Even very smart people can be brainwashed from birth. So I don't think IQ is all that when judging this. I guess they are busy thinking about what they are told to think about and not thinking about what they are specifically told it's bad to think about.

How fucking stupid these smart folks are.

Actually the word atheist has been hijacked to mean the derogatory by religious types.
Theist is a person who believes in a god or gods.
Atheist is the opposite of this.
Atheist is a person who disbelieves in a god or gods.

If theists would stop talking about god, you'd never hear another word from me on the subject.

The thing is........ many atheists think that people making decisions that affect our lives (presidents etc..... or anybody making policy) should not have invisible friends who influence them with ancient bullshit from bullshit books.

I have the opposite of faith.
I don't have faith in my position that there is NO GOD. It is my position because there has been nothing presented to change my mind. EVER!!!!!

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." Hitchens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor

I don't believe in or worship the "no god" god or anti-god.

I don't need to have faith to believe that there is no Russell's Teapot flying around in space either.
I require proof to believe things, proof of the magnitude needed to make me believe in god or gods has not been forthcoming.

Yes!!!!! Babies are atheists.
You'd be an atheist if nobody ever poisoned your mind with religious bullshit. You wouldn't disbelieve in god, you wouldn't think about it at all.

If you want to discount the test itself, I'm drunk and got fed up after about 3 so clicked the same one for the remaining 27....

Still scored 90.

It isn't a proper IQ test guys.

I come to GFY for all my spiritual conundrums, don't you?

thanks, you saved me the trouble :thumbsup

I don't like conundrums. They take away all the feeling.

So you made the page and can edit it? You should also consider who gives up as partial results, was they more theist or atheist? Also are theists faster or slower to complete the test (timer took)? Also, you should publish the number of tests done. You may divide by county, are US people more or less intelligent than europeans? Just ideas.

PS: now average is 100 and 100. No useful conclusions yet. But was it just GFY members who tested? :)

Please don't question my faith in the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

Religion thing is not that simple, and there is brand new study regarding it.

"Both comparative and experimental evidence indicate that beliefs in moralizing high gods promote cooperation among humans, a behavioral attribute known to correlate with environmental harshness in nonhuman animals. Here we combine fine-grained bioclimatic data with the latest statistical tools from ecology and the social sciences to evaluate the potential effects of environmental forces, language history, and culture on the global distribution of belief in moralizing high gods (n = 583 societies). After simultaneously accounting for potential nonindependence among societies because of shared ancestry and cultural diffusion, we find that these beliefs are more prevalent among societies that inhabit poorer environments and are more prone to ecological duress."

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/11/05/1408701111

How in fuck some guys think that religion is some "poison" or something like that? Haven't you heard about evolution? Either religion is beneficial and or neutral and or not much negative influence (depends). Otherwise evolution would have been wiped it out. Beneficial is of course favoured by evolution, neutral is neutral and minor negative effects may be masked behind other things (aka doesn't count that much).

some of y'all need to update your definition of faith

confidence or trust in a person or thing is faith

Well, you sound like if the word atheist was an insult. If you believe in mathematics and not in god, I think it still makes you an atheist. :) But its funny, because I was watching some interresting debates about theism vs atheism lately and people really seem to see the word atheism as a negative word, I have no idea why.

Where do I sound insulted? Again, I've simply never felt the need to sort out whether or not santa clause, I mean god, exists.


The fact is though, I can see both sides, at least re: religion. I know most atheists disagree with me (and get upset) when I state that it would be hard to prove that religion has done more harm than good over time.

No, faith is the purposeful suspension of critical thinking in order to perpetuate a worldview that is not supported by facts, evidence, commonsense, or logic. One is backed by facts and logical thinking, the other believes 15,000 animals fit on a 500ft long boat and floated up above the highest mountain without freezing to death or dying from loss of oxygen. Just on the Christian side. Not to mention the other 38,000 + religions fabricated since the dawn of man and some even more loony than that...

I'm an atheist, and I'm actually proud to be, so being called an atheist does not offend me. It makes me feel good :)