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AmateurBros 01-18-2015 04:41 PM

Sudden Death in the NFL, in OT -- Is Bullshit
 
Sudden death in the NFL, in OT has to be on of the worst rules in all of sports, it makes absolutely no sense and is completely unfair to the defending team.

TCLGirls 01-18-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362547)
Sudden death in the NFL, in OT has to be on of the worst rules in all of sports, it makes absolutely no sense and is completely unfair to the defending team.

What, you want us to adopt CFL rules? No we don't roll like that homie.

L-Pink 01-18-2015 04:44 PM

First team to score should win.

AmateurBros 01-18-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20362557)
First team to score should win.

Yeah, in a game where everyone has an equal playing field -- like hockey or baseball, basketball, etc.

When you have the ball to start, that's an automatic advantage -- there's nothing fair about it.

AmateurBros 01-18-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20362557)
First team to score should win.

It should be timed, or sudden death once the other teams gets an opportunity with the ball.

TCLGirls 01-18-2015 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362564)
Yeah, in a game where everyone has an equal playing field -- like hockey or baseball, basketball, etc.

When you have the ball to start, that's an automatic advantage -- there's nothing fair about it.

In baseball, it is impossible for the defense to score points. In football, both offense and defense can score points. Big difference.

dyna mo 01-18-2015 04:51 PM

the rule is correct. a touchdown counts more than a field goal and should be emphasized more in OT.

well done rule.

L-Pink 01-18-2015 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362564)
Yeah, in a game where everyone has an equal playing field -- like hockey or baseball, basketball, etc.

When you have the ball to start, that's an automatic advantage -- there's nothing fair about it.

Both teams had 60 minutes to win but didn't, first to score should win. That's why it's called sudden death.

blackmonsters 01-18-2015 04:51 PM

Reality :

If the other team takes the kick off and drives 85 yards for a touchdown,
you lost.

candyflip 01-18-2015 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362570)
It should be timed, or sudden death once the other teams gets an opportunity with the ball.

Isn't that how it is? If the team with the ball scores, the other team gets a chance to tie it up.

I don't follow too much football, but I'm pretty sure I know at least this much. I think. :1orglaugh

They got rid of sudden death years ago...at least I thought they did. LOL.

dyna mo 01-18-2015 04:53 PM

sudden death means prove it.

if you can score a touchdown in a tie score game after 60 minutes then that is the textbook definition of sudden death.

TCLGirls 01-18-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20362581)
Is that how it is. If the team with the ball scores, the other team gets a chance to tie it up.

I don't follow too much football, but I'm pretty sure I know at least this much. I think. :1orglaugh

They got rid of sudden death years ago.

They did not get rid of sudden death completely.

Touchdown or Safety still equals sudden death.

Field goal, the other team gets a chance on offense.

bronco67 01-18-2015 05:03 PM

I always hated the old rule where any score would win, but the new way is an adjustment that has a nice balance.

AmateurBros 01-18-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20362573)
In baseball, it is impossible for the defense to score points. In football, both offense and defense can score points. Big difference.

You know exactly what I mean, and if you didn't...well you're a moron. Both teams get a fair opportunity to play -- that was the point.

I know you're too little to admit being wrong, but it's a fact that the team with the ball has the advantage to score in football -- and that is unfair, plan and simple.

AmateurBros 01-18-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20362579)
Both teams had 60 minutes to win but didn't, first to score should win. That's why it's called sudden death.

Thanks for explaining why it was called sudden death, it's still an advantage for the team that gets the ball starting OT.

This is not something you can argue with lol.

The team with the ball at the start of OT, has an advantage and therefor it's not fair.

AmateurBros 01-18-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20362581)
Isn't that how it is? If the team with the ball scores, the other team gets a chance to tie it up.

I don't follow too much football, but I'm pretty sure I know at least this much. I think. :1orglaugh

They got rid of sudden death years ago...at least I thought they did. LOL.

The game ended in suddent death OT, with Seattle leading the drive and scoring a touch down to win. Green Bay didn't get a chance after that -- game over.

TCLGirls 01-18-2015 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362614)
You know exactly what I mean, and if you didn't...well you're a moron. Both teams get a fair opportunity to play -- that was the point.

I know you're too little to admit being wrong, but it's a fact that the team with the ball has the advantage to score in football -- and that is unfair, plan and simple.

Why you so mad lol. Fact remains that in football, both offense and defense can score points. No so in baseball.

inabon 01-18-2015 05:18 PM

quit wining rule is good otherwise we would have the shitty soccer endings LOL

AMERICAN FOOTBALL FOR THE WIN!!!

TCLGirls 01-18-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362618)
The game ended in suddent death OT, with Seattle leading the drive and scoring a touch down to win. Green Bay didn't get a chance after that -- game over.

Green Bay did have a chance to score.

Greenbay could have pinned Seattle near the goal line on kick off. Then Green Bay defense could have forced a safety, thereby ENDING THE GAME.

Or Greenbay could have forced a turnover and scored a touchdown, thereby ENDING THE GAME.

So stop spreading the lie that Greenbay did have a chance to score.

AmateurBros 01-18-2015 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20362633)
Green Bay did have a chance to score.

Greenbay could have pinned Seattle near the goal line on kick off. Then Green Bay defense could have forced a safety, thereby ENDING THE GAME.

Or Greenbay could have forced a turnover and scored a touchdown, thereby ENDING THE GAME.

So stop spreading the lie that Greenbay did have a chance to score.

By that suggestion right there....this would have to be YOUR conclusion in ending a baseball game in extra innings...

If a team in baseball scores a run in the top if the inning, the game should be over, by your logic...because, the team on defense should have kept them from scoring and given themselves a chance to win in the bottom of the inning.

TCLGirls 01-18-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362640)
By that suggestion right there....this would have to be YOUR conclusion in ending a baseball game in extra innings...

If a team in baseball scores a run in the top if the inning, the game should be over, by your logic...because, the team on defense should have kept them from scoring and given themselves a chance to win in the bottom of the inning.

Wrong, because in baseball the defense cannot score.

But in football, the defense can indeed score. Ever hear of a "pick six"?

iamBoogieman 01-18-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362640)
By that suggestion right there....this would have to be YOUR conclusion in ending a baseball game in extra innings...

If a team in baseball scores a run in the top if the inning, the game should be over, by your logic...because, the team on defense should have kept them from scoring and given themselves a chance to win in the bottom of the inning.

Nice thoughts.

The Porn Nerd 01-18-2015 05:27 PM

Money on Green Bay eh?
Sucker.

AmateurBros 01-18-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20362643)
Wrong, because in baseball the defense cannot score.

But in football, the defense can indeed score. Ever hear of a "pick six"?

In order to score they have to keep the other team from scoring -- and give themselves an opportunity to get the ball back and score.

It's the same deal dingdong.

AmateurBros 01-18-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20362648)
Money on Green Bay eh?
Sucker.

Nope. I expected Seattle to win, just don't agree with sudden death OT, the way it is.

TCLGirls 01-18-2015 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362650)
In order to score they have to keep the other team from scoring -- and give themselves an opportunity to get the ball back and score.

It's the same deal dingdong.

And? Fact remains BOTH the offense and defense has a chance to score a TD. The defense does not even have to get off the field to score a TD. The defensive side themselves can score a TD. Thus first team to score a TD wins.

L-Pink 01-18-2015 05:31 PM

If you can't win it in 60 minutes you shouldn't whine about not getting a chance in OT. I'm a Packer fan and feel this way.

vdbucks 01-18-2015 06:03 PM

bottom line, GB needs to clean house. Playing that conservative with the NFC championship on the line is out and out just plain stupid... And it's a common theme for them. As soon as they're in the lead, they get conservative and play "not to lose" instead of playing to win.

IMHO, the HC, DC and OC all need to go... You can't keep playing "not to lose" and expect to win. I'd have had much more respect for a loss had they went for one or 2 of those instead of settling for field goals, and played to win.

Yeah, that onside kick fuck up was bad, but they gave up the game at the start of the second half when they started playing conservative if you ask me...

mozadek 01-18-2015 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362547)
Sudden death in the NFL, in OT has to be on of the worst rules in all of sports, it makes absolutely no sense and is completely unfair to the defending team.

The packers had 60 minutes to win the game, they don't deserve another shot especially if their weak defense gives up a touchdown on the first possession of overtime.

L-Pink 01-18-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 20362683)
bottom line, GB needs to clean house. Playing that conservative with the NFC championship on the line is out and out just plain stupid... And it's a common theme for them. As soon as they're in the lead, they get conservative and play "not to lose" instead of playing to win.

IMHO, the HC, DC and OC all need to go... You can't keep playing "not to lose" and expect to win. I'd have had much more respect for a loss had they went for one or 2 of those instead of settling for field goals, and played to win.

Yeah, that onside kick fuck up was bad, but they gave up the game at the start of the second half when they started playing conservative if you ask me...

:thumbsup That's pretty much why Elway cleaned house in Denver.


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Joshua G 01-18-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362564)
Yeah, in a game where everyone has an equal playing field -- like hockey or baseball, basketball, etc.

When you have the ball to start, that's an automatic advantage -- there's nothing fair about it.

its no advantage if you have top shelf defense. seriously if you have a front 7 that can get to the QB, it negates the advantage.

:2 cents:

420 01-18-2015 08:21 PM

It's obvious that each team should be allowed to attempt a series of five field goals. Starting from 25 yards out, increasing by 10 yards each time until they get to 65 yard trys.

slapass 01-18-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362616)
Thanks for explaining why it was called sudden death, it's still an advantage for the team that gets the ball starting OT.

This is not something you can argue with lol.

The team with the ball at the start of OT, has an advantage and therefor it's not fair.


Before the rule change, it was about 50/50 in terms of who won.

Spunky 01-18-2015 10:57 PM

Seahawks win again!

AmateurBros 01-19-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20362837)
Before the rule change, it was about 50/50 in terms of who won.

I'll try and find the link in a minute, but from what I read...the team first on offense in OT won over 75% of the time.

blackmonsters 01-19-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20363343)
I'll try and find the link in a minute, but from what I read...the team first on offense in OT won over 75% of the time.

They want the game to end as fast as possible in OT.
Especially a game on TV.
They don't want the teams to swap touch downs for another hour.
At a certain point they would be just starting a new game rather then deciding who won the last one.

Besides, Green bay knows the rules of OT and the elected to kick a field goal to tie the game instead of trying for a touch down or first down with time on the clock.

They LET the game go to OT by not trying to WIN it right there.

Next time try to win so you don't have to go into OT or learn how to win the coin toss.

:1orglaugh

BergyK 01-19-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362547)
Sudden death in the NFL, in OT has to be on of the worst rules in all of sports, it makes absolutely no sense and is completely unfair to the defending team.

I agree 100%. Give the other team a chance.

Plutocracy 01-19-2015 11:00 AM

I think somebodies fav team lost! When the steelers lose it's the refs fault lol

PR_Glen 01-19-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20362654)
Nope. I expected Seattle to win, just don't agree with sudden death OT, the way it is.

are you new to the game or something? it wasn't that long ago it was FARFARFAR worse having it as first score, so one possession and a few small plays and a long kick wins it instead.. this is serious progress in contrast. A touchdown is no walk in the park, if your team is good enough to score a td in overtime you win.. that's about as fair as it gets..

PR_Glen 01-19-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20363343)
I'll try and find the link in a minute, but from what I read...the team first on offense in OT won over 75% of the time.

the link on the 1 year of data you mean?

SekobA 01-19-2015 12:42 PM

i agree with you nothing worst than that!

Supz 01-19-2015 07:38 PM

its not exactly sudden death. they have to score a touchdown first, not field gold I think. No?


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