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jaYMan 01-25-2015 03:57 PM
Leader of Islam letter to the youth of Europe & America
 
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not sure if this was posted or not, but interesting read.

pornmasta 01-25-2015 04:29 PM
Quote:

Message of Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei
To the Youth in Europe and North America
here is the message:

Quote:
In the name of God, the Beneficent the Merciful

To the Youth in Europe and North America,

The recent events in France and similar ones in some other Western countries have convinced me to directly talk to you about them. I am addressing you, [the youth], not because I overlook your parents, rather it is because the future of your nations and countries will be in your hands; and also I find that the sense of quest for truth is more vigorous and attentive in your hearts.

I don’t address your politicians and statesmen either in this writing because I believe that they have consciously separated the route of politics from the path of righteousness and truth.

I would like to talk to you about Islam, particularly the image that is presented to you as Islam. Many attempts have been made over the past two decades, almost since the disintegration of the Soviet Union, to place this great religion in the seat of a horrifying enemy. The provocation of a feeling of horror and hatred and its utilization has unfortunately a long record in the political history of the West.

Here, I don’t want to deal with the different phobias with which the Western nations have thus far been indoctrinated. A cursory review of recent critical studies of history would bring home to you the fact that the Western governments’ insincere and hypocritical treatment of other nations and cultures has been censured in new historiographies.

The histories of the United States and Europe are ashamed of slavery, embarrassed by the colonial period and chagrined at the oppression of people of color and non-Christians. Your researchers and historians are deeply ashamed of the bloodsheds wrought in the name of religion between the Catholics and Protestants or in the name of nationality and ethnicity during the First and Second World Wars. This approach is admirable.

By mentioning a fraction of this long list, I don’t want to reproach history; rather I would like you to ask your intellectuals as to why the public conscience in the West awakens and comes to its senses after a delay of several decades or centuries. Why should the revision of collective conscience apply to the distant past and not to the current problems? Why is it that attempts are made to prevent public awareness regarding an important issue such as the treatment of Islamic culture and thought?

You know well that humiliation and spreading hatred and illusionary fear of the “other” have been the common base of all those oppressive profiteers. Now, I would like you to ask yourself why the old policy of spreading “phobia” and hatred has targeted Islam and Muslims with an unprecedented intensity. Why does the power structure in the world want Islamic thought to be marginalized and remain latent? What concepts and values in Islam disturb the programs of the super powers and what interests are safeguarded in the shadow of distorting the image of Islam? Hence, my first request is: Study and research the incentives behind this widespread tarnishing of the image of Islam.

My second request is that in reaction to the flood of prejudgments and disinformation campaigns, try to gain a direct and firsthand knowledge of this religion. The right logic requires that you understand the nature and essence of what they are frightening you about and want you to keep away from.

I don’t insist that you accept my reading or any other reading of Islam. What I want to say is: Don’t allow this dynamic and effective reality in today’s world to be introduced to you through resentments and prejudices. Don’t allow them to hypocritically introduce their own recruited terrorists as representatives of Islam.

Receive knowledge of Islam from its primary and original sources. Gain information about Islam through the Qur’an and the life of its great Prophet. I would like to ask you whether you have directly read the Qur’an of the Muslims. Have you studied the teachings of the Prophet of Islam and his humane, ethical doctrines? Have you ever received the message of Islam from any sources other than the media?

Have you ever asked yourself how and on the basis of which values has Islam established the greatest scientific and intellectual civilization of the world and raised the most distinguished scientists and intellectuals throughout several centuries?

I would like you not to allow the derogatory and offensive image-buildings to create an emotional gulf between you and the reality, taking away the possibility of an impartial judgment from you. Today, the communication media have removed the geographical borders. Hence, don’t allow them to besiege you within fabricated and mental borders.

Although no one can individually fill the created gaps, each one of you can construct a bridge of thought and fairness over the gaps to illuminate yourself and your surrounding environment. While this preplanned challenge between Islam and you, the youth, is undesirable, it can raise new questions in your curious and inquiring minds. Attempts to find answers to these questions will provide you with an appropriate opportunity to discover new truths.

Therefore, don’t miss the opportunity to gain proper, correct and unbiased understanding of Islam so that hopefully, due to your sense of responsibility toward the truth, future generations would write the history of this current interaction between Islam and the West with a clearer conscience and lesser resentment.
Seyyed Ali Khamenei
21st Jan. 2015

robwod 01-25-2015 04:40 PM
You know what I don't see in any of that message? Not a single word saying that the radicals and extremists are acting outside this religion nor that that Muslims by and large object to extremist acts in the name of their Prophet. That the media, while certainly trading on sensationalism for ratings, are being fueled by extremists who are the ones perpetuating the negative image being attributed, rightly or wrongly, to Islam.

It's interesting to me that whomever wrote this never even alluded to extremism.

Joshua G 01-25-2015 04:52 PM
wow. could never imagine ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini writing such a thing. the times have a changed.

(for morons, ruhollah was the previous ayatollah who held americans hostage in that movie argo)

Lonny 01-25-2015 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20370039)
wow. could never imagine ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini writing such a thing. the times have a changed.

(for morons, ruhollah was the previous ayatollah who held americans hostage in that movie argo)
reading the source code it reads

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<meta name="description" content="Message of Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei To the Youth in Europe and North America, letter4u">

who would of thought he uses meta so gracefully for seo purposes.

L-Pink 01-25-2015 06:21 PM
Like the youth of America has the patience to read that.

Rochard 01-25-2015 06:23 PM
There was an article shortly after the recent shooting in France that said it all. The difference between the terrorist and the Muslim that saved lives in the store was simple - The terrorist was born in France, lived all his life in France, and believes he is discriminated against while the hero recently imigrated from Mali and understands what real hardship is like.

altmman 01-25-2015 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20370103)
Like the youth of America has the patience to read that.
QFT :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
I lasted 1 paragraph then skimmed the rest

MiamiBoyz 01-25-2015 06:31 PM
Fuck him and his fucking letter.

Phoenix 01-25-2015 06:50 PM
They lie all religious people are liars...they even lie to themselves.

bronco67 01-25-2015 07:21 PM
The subtext is there. As harmless as this letter may appear, you have to ask what is the ultimate reason for appealing to Western kids of middle-eastern descent.


To kill the infidels from within their own borders. We'd do it ourselves, but we're kind of on the no-fly list.

They're building their army and this is propaganda. There's no other purpose for it.

Captain Kawaii 01-25-2015 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20370034)
You know what I don't see in any of that message? Not a single word saying that the radicals and extremists are acting outside this religion nor that that Muslims by and large object to extremist acts in the name of their Prophet. That the media, while certainly trading on sensationalism for ratings, are being fueled by extremists who are the ones perpetuating the negative image being attributed, rightly or wrongly, to Islam.

It's interesting to me that whomever wrote this never even alluded to extremism.
Sure, he did.

"Don?t allow them to hypocritically introduce their own recruited terrorists as representatives of Islam."

Majority of Muslims are against extremism. From within or outside. Charlie Hebdo and the events leading up to and especially after are obviously manufactured to pursue an ideology.

Current world events are like a bad B movie with poor writers, inept actors and a blind seething oppressive rage being directed at the world's youth...and not by Islam.

The writer is expressing the idea that people think for themselves and do their own research. I do not see the harm in that.

pornmasta 01-25-2015 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20370161)
They're building their army and this is propaganda. There's no other purpose for it.
of course

Barry-xlovecam 01-25-2015 09:36 PM
This wisdom comes from the religious leader of a Islamic nation where Sharia law stones women to death for adultery and hangs gay youths ...

Consider the source.

pornmasta 01-25-2015 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20370240)
This wisdom comes from the religious leader of a Islamic nation where Sharia law stones women to death for adultery and hangs gay youths ...

Consider the source.
they stone them when they catch them...
I heard that there is a lot of gay people in teheran...

MiamiBoyz 01-25-2015 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20370244)
they stone them when they catch them...
I heard that there is a lot of gay people in teheran...
You really are a cunt you know it...a real fucking CUNT! :thumbsup

fappingJack 01-26-2015 12:05 AM
too lazy to read

directfiesta 01-26-2015 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20370103)
Like the youth of America has the patience to read that.
They read ???? :error

rogueteens 01-26-2015 02:02 AM
i'll wait for the movie

iamBoogieman 01-26-2015 04:48 AM
Me too movie instead.

pimpmaster9000 01-26-2015 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20370034)
You know what I don't see in any of that message? Not a single word saying that the radicals and extremists are acting outside this religion nor that that Muslims by and large object to extremist acts in the name of their Prophet. That the media, while certainly trading on sensationalism for ratings, are being fueled by extremists who are the ones perpetuating the negative image being attributed, rightly or wrongly, to Islam.

It's interesting to me that whomever wrote this never even alluded to extremism.
I do not see a single word from christians saying that the 100.000-s of bombs dropped in the name of "freedom" or the invasions and the 100.000-s of killed by the hands of christian soldiers do not have a thing to do with christianity!

imagine the nerve?

but you are right...the muslims kill 1000x less people than the christians but it is islam that should distance itself every chance it gets!

oh and the western media never ever ever ever ever relies on "sensationalism for ratings" :1orglaugh

great points you make :thumbsup

Slappin Fish 01-26-2015 05:44 AM
I've read it. Couple times.

Waah waah waah.... is the gist of it. It's all Europe, America, and the Western world's fault. Even when he says don't let "them" it isn't the extremists or crazy wahhabi fundamentalists, it's the media and the west.

It's quite clever in the way it feels like a auto-critique when he is shifting all the blame.

He talks about indoctrination.... but not of young muslims in Luton, Clichy sous bois, no the indoctrination of the west. Takes no responsibility whatsoever.

rogueteens 01-26-2015 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20370448)
I do not see a single word from christians saying that the 100.000-s of bombs dropped in the name of "freedom" or the invasions and the 100.000-s of killed by the hands of christian soldiers do not have a thing to do with christianity!

imagine the nerve?

but you are right...the muslims kill 1000x less people than the christians but it is islam that should distance itself every chance it gets!

oh and the western media never ever ever ever ever relies on "sensationalism for ratings" :1orglaugh

great points you make :thumbsup
What the hell are you an about? When has the president of the US ever said that it was done in the name of Christianity? When has a Muslim terrorist attack been done where they claimed it WASN'T done in the name of Islam?

Grapesoda 01-26-2015 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20370107)
the hero recently imigrated from Mali and understands what real hardship is like.
this sums it up....

pornguy 01-26-2015 06:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20370034)
You know what I don't see in any of that message? Not a single word saying that the radicals and extremists are acting outside this religion nor that that Muslims by and large object to extremist acts in the name of their Prophet. That the media, while certainly trading on sensationalism for ratings, are being fueled by extremists who are the ones perpetuating the negative image being attributed, rightly or wrongly, to Islam.

It's interesting to me that whomever wrote this never even alluded to extremism.
Kind of quietly screams something.

dconstrukt 01-26-2015 07:43 AM
gotta love people putting the blame on everyone else.

its easy to pass the blame.

difficult to accept responsibility.

that guy is no leader… he doesn't have the courage to be one, you can tell from his writing… he's just passing the blame.

everyone else's fault.

gotta take a long hard look in the mirror...

pimpmaster9000 01-26-2015 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dconstrukt (Post 20370621)
gotta love people putting the blame on everyone else.

its easy to pass the blame.

difficult to accept responsibility.

that guy is no leader? he doesn't have the courage to be one, you can tell from his writing? he's just passing the blame.

everyone else's fault.

gotta take a long hard look in the mirror...
:thumbsup exactly the 100.000-s of US bombs ect :1orglaugh

Slappin Fish 01-26-2015 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20370647)
:thumbsup exactly the 100.000-s of US bombs ect :1orglaugh
9/11 terrorists where Saudi's, Charlie Hebdo where French, any bombs falling on those countries?

directfiesta 01-26-2015 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20370528)
What the hell are you an about? When has the president of the US ever said that it was done in the name of Christianity? When has a Muslim terrorist attack been done where they claimed it WASN'T done in the name of Islam?
Quote:
"According to Abbas, Bush said: ?God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.?"
As Bush was elected by the christian evangelical vote, and that on hundreds of time finished his war speaches with ' May God be with US ' or ' may God protect the troops ' , I would say that this pretty much qualifies .... :2 cents:

pornmasta 01-26-2015 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20370289)
You really are a cunt you know it...a real fucking CUNT! :thumbsup
I'm may be a cunt (that's indeed possible), however i know that i'm right...

poncabare 01-26-2015 09:14 AM
Who cares what this cave dweller thinks

Struggle4Bucks 01-26-2015 09:16 AM
People think that history never repeats itself... when that history is too cruel they think it can ever happen again....

Reality is that Europe has proven to be very effective at professionally and productive removal of minorities from it's society...

When that happens next time... there will not be many people that will say "we never knew"... they will probably say... "yeah... well... somebody had to do it..."

rogueteens 01-26-2015 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20370711)
As Bush was elected by the christian evangelical vote, and that on hundreds of time finished his war speaches with ' May God be with US ' or ' may God protect the troops ' , I would say that this pretty much qualifies .... :2 cents:
the Jewish, Christian and Muslim god is the same god. I'm sure that he never once said that the civilians were killed in the name of Christianity.

directfiesta 01-26-2015 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20370789)
the Jewish, Christian and Muslim god is the same god. I'm sure that he never once said that the civilians were killed in the name of Christianity.
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pimpmaster9000 01-26-2015 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 20370657)
9/11 terrorists where Saudi's, Charlie Hebdo where French, any bombs falling on those countries?
saudis hate the fuck out of you...you are lucky the former 2 kings are sympathetic towards the west...they even had 9000 imams re-educated and had parts of the kuran altered because the former kings put in anti america stuff...

charlie hedbo is a french magazine and they are NATO...

oh and the US and NATO (should I say USA-s puppet NATO) have dropped more bombs than hitler since world war 2 and I am sure none of the 100.000-s of bombs count because they are "freedom bombs" :1orglaugh and the entire muslim world has no reason at all to hate the peace and fun loving and honest west...

MPGdevil 01-26-2015 11:51 AM
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Receive knowledge of Islam from its primary and original sources. Gain information about Islam through the Qur?an and the life of its great Prophet. I would like to ask you whether you have directly read the Qur?an of the Muslims. Have you studied the teachings of the Prophet of Islam and his humane, ethical doctrines? Have you ever received the message of Islam from any sources other than the media?
Maybe he should write a letter to the Middle East Muslims instead, because they obviously haven't studied the ethical stuff in the Qur?an.

Slappin Fish 01-26-2015 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20370850)
saudis hate the fuck out of you...you are lucky the former 2 kings are sympathetic towards the west...they even had 9000 imams re-educated and had parts of the kuran altered because the former kings put in anti america stuff...

charlie hedbo is a french magazine and they are NATO...

oh and the US and NATO (should I say USA-s puppet NATO) have dropped more bombs than hitler since world war 2 and I am sure none of the 100.000-s of bombs count because they are "freedom bombs" :1orglaugh and the entire muslim world has no reason at all to hate the peace and fun loving and honest west...
Flew over your head didn't it?

Plenty of Iraqis in Europe. was it an Iraqi that attacked Charlie Hebdo. nope.

Who did?

baddog 01-26-2015 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20370289)
You really are a cunt you know it...a real fucking CUNT! :thumbsup
And you are a cock sucking pussy. Kind of evens things out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20370448)
I do not see a single word from christians saying that the 100.000-s of bombs dropped in the name of "freedom" or the invasions and the 100.000-s of killed by the hands of christian soldiers do not have a thing to do with christianity!

imagine the nerve?

but you are right...the muslims kill 1000x less people than the christians but it is islam that should distance itself every chance it gets!

oh and the western media never ever ever ever ever relies on "sensationalism for ratings" :1orglaugh

great points you make :thumbsup
When was the last war that was made up of Christian soldiers and fought in the name of Christianity?

mineistaken 01-26-2015 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20370726)
People think that history never repeats itself... when that history is too cruel they think it can ever happen again....

Reality is that Europe has proven to be very effective at professionally and productive removal of minorities from it's society...

When that happens next time... there will not be many people that will say "we never knew"... they will probably say... "yeah... well... somebody had to do it..."
Dude, relatively soon jockeys will be a majority in certain cities and then countries.
And most important you can not compare those times with these times. These times are the times of submission and polit correctness. Who can speak out for removal of them and gain power? He/shee would be labeled racist or even thrown in jail...

pimpmaster9000 01-27-2015 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 20370936)
Flew over your head didn't it?

Plenty of Iraqis in Europe. was it an Iraqi that attacked Charlie Hebdo. nope.

Who did?
dude the USA has been CIA-ing and/or bombing the arab/muslim world for over 60 years...you are joking with mentioning just iraq right? :1orglaugh the USA is the cancer of the world and the worlds #1 war monger...the entire muslim world thinks so :2 cents:

avghanistan=they love you
palestine=they love you
iraq=they love you
iran=they love you

and when I say they love you I mean they want to kill you :1orglaugh it

Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20370936)
When was the last war that was made up of Christian soldiers and fought in the name of Christianity?
it is the western media that introduced the term "muslim terrorist"...by branding muslims as terrorists, YOU made it christianity vs islam...you made every attack christian every bomb every plane every black water thug ect...does not matter one bit if you do not consider yourselves as christian or are doing it just for the oil ect fact is: they see you as anti muslim/islam/whatever and you are seen as christians

and the fact that you attack over bullshit, bomb more than hitler, are full of shit as a nation, and make osama look like an amateur do not help much :2 cents:


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