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dotcommer 03-16-2015 01:34 AM

Good Email Company That Allows Adult
 
Back in early 2000, I started emailing and was very successful at it, we were able to get several thousand IP's a /20 and /21 directly from Internic which allowed us to get all the spam complaints directly and get amazing throughput. Then the Can Spam Act came along and to keep from going to jail, we decided to follow the rules. It definitely hurt things a bit, but things were still pretty decent.

Besides companies like Gammae and Ynot, are there some good mainstream companies that allow you to email adult?

Even though, I started up my mailing system again and my IP space has a good reputation, I wouldn't mind trying my lists out on some other networks to see how they compare. And the reality is, with each different mailing network, some are good at getting into Gmail, while others are good at getting into Yahoo etc.. so it best not to put all your eggs in one basket.

Lastly, I am looking for more adult, dating and mainstream lists to purchase or do split deals on like Gammae, so if you know of anyone interested and/or you have your own lists, I would be willing to talk, just PM me.

RyuLion 03-16-2015 02:08 AM

I've been using ynotmail.com for a couple of years..

MakeMeGrrrrowl 03-16-2015 07:01 AM

I also use ynot for the past couple years.

Sly 03-16-2015 07:05 AM

I have a handful of mainstream companies that do offer adult. Feel free to shoot me an ICQ and I'll fill you in.

ICQ: 147479144

Rochard 03-16-2015 07:07 AM

I will hit you up to discuss YNOT Mail.

Every day I hear from people who have been using free services or main stream email services that suddenly get kicked off because they are adult. YNOT Mail don't have such issues.

datingbanking 03-16-2015 08:00 AM

ynotmail all the way :-)

Panty Snatcher 03-16-2015 08:54 AM

I am offering email list processing in my new venture

If you have a current/clean list or if you want to start a new one

Hit me up , you wont be disapointed

Itchy 03-16-2015 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datingbanking (Post 20419571)
ynotmail all the way :-)

:thumbsup:thumbsup

scarlettcontent 03-16-2015 10:19 AM

been using ynot, pretty cool.

2MuchMark 03-16-2015 11:53 AM

ynotmail for the win

Deej 03-16-2015 12:15 PM

Pretty resounding!

Kenny B! 03-16-2015 12:26 PM

I hear great things about ynot mail

Rochard 03-16-2015 02:39 PM

Thanks everyone for your support.

Keep in mind than when you use YNOT Mail you get me for support.... And I am pretty easy to work with.

fetishwealth 03-16-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20420020)
Thanks everyone for your support.

Keep in mind than when you use YNOT Mail you get me for support.... And I am pretty easy to work with.

ynot ftw and yes rochard is "easy" aka slutty

Eric 03-16-2015 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20420020)
Thanks everyone for your support.

Keep in mind than when you use YNOT Mail you get me for support.... And I am pretty easy to work with.

Oh fuck that then! Just Kidding man! LOL

AmeliaG 03-17-2015 04:05 AM

SMTP.com

Barefootsies 03-17-2015 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dotcommer (Post 20419318)
Besides companies like Gammae and Ynot, are there some good mainstream companies that allow you to email adult?

Yes. Plenty do.

YNOT is just a skinned version of Interspire last I knew, which is something you can purchase yourself without the middle man. The main difference to my understanding is that you have Rochard for support to hold your hand if you do not know how to mail at all. If you send any REAL volume, Interspire is not the best MTA and there are plenty better.

As for the other stuff you mentioned in regard to the majors/tld (aol, hotmail, gmail, etc), you are correct. Each has different rules, throttles, hourly limits, among other tweaks needed to get into the inbox. If you have a decent sized list, you will need to segment it accordingly to be effective.

Most of the adult membership and newsletters I have seen to date are mainly the majors (aol, hotmail, gmail). Meaning, most seem to use those for their porn. Each one of those is a different bag o tricks to email properly, and you should learn them. You can always go to a real ESP with clean ips and try and mail out that way, as they typically will have some level of trust from the different ISP, but, that can be pricey when you pay according to volume.

Good luck.

trevesty 03-17-2015 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 20420552)
Yes. Plenty do.

YNOT is just a skinned version of Interspire last I knew, which is something you can purchase yourself without the middle man. The main difference to my understanding is that you have Rochard for support to hold your hand if you do not know how to mail at all. If you send any REAL volume, Interspire is not the best MTA and there are plenty better.

As for the other stuff you mentioned in regard to the majors/tld (aol, hotmail, gmail, etc), you are correct. Each has different rules, throttles, hourly limits, among other tweaks needed to get into the inbox. If you have a decent sized list, you will need to segment it accordingly to be effective.

Most of the adult membership and newsletters I have seen to date are mainly the majors (aol, hotmail, gmail). Meaning, most seem to use those for their porn. Each one of those is a different bag o tricks to email properly, and you should learn them. You can always go to a real ESP with clean ips and try and mail out that way, as they typically will have some level of trust from the different ISP, but, that can be pricey when you pay according to volume.

Good luck.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

freecartoonporn 03-17-2015 06:15 AM

Amazon SES + Sendy.co

JFK 03-17-2015 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20419816)
ynotmail for the win

Appears to be so :2 cents::thumbsup

Rochard 03-17-2015 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 20420552)
Yes. Plenty do.

YNOT is just a skinned version of Interspire last I knew, which is something you can purchase yourself without the middle man. The main difference to my understanding is that you have Rochard for support to hold your hand if you do not know how to mail at all. If you send any REAL volume, Interspire is not the best MTA and there are plenty better.

Anyone can purchase Interspire, install it, and blast out email blindly. In most cases you will quickly end up being blacklisted from the major ISPs, and will have little recourse in getting unlisted. You will not be able to reach inboxes, and potentially your regular pop3 email will end up in spam too.

Interspire is only the first layer of software with YNOT Mail. There is other software involved, multiple servers, upstream providers, DKIM and SPF records, conflict resolution, PLUS support.

dotcommer 03-24-2015 05:39 PM

Thanks everyone for the input here. I am currently using Ynot and Rochard has been great.
It is important to use different mailing networks as to get better throughput into the inbox. IP's are always getting black listed and it takes some time to get them off the black list. So one day on one network you have great deliverability and the next day it dies.
Like Rochard said,
Quote:

Anyone can purchase Interspire, install it, and blast out email blindly. In most cases you will quickly end up being blacklisted from the major ISPs, and will have little recourse in getting unlisted. You will not be able to reach inboxes, and potentially your regular pop3 email will end up in spam too.
There's a lot that goes into mailing that is why I was looking for other companies that allow adult besides Ynot and Gammae, that is why I started this thread. The more honest networks I can mail from the better.

I have had a few people hit me up about doing mailings for them in this space and I am open to it, but I don't want to take away business from Ynot etc.. So if you have email lists and want to try a new network with several thousand IP's let me know and we can discuss this further. Shoot an email over to admin @ intermaxx.com

If you are attending the Phoenix Forum, I will be there as well since I live in Scottsdale, AZ

I know a person mentioned Amazon SES, I have been there and done that and even though we spend over 10K a month with them it only lasted a few months. They are very protective over the IP Space, and they will not let you host your own IP's with them.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 03-24-2015 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20420020)
Thanks everyone for your support.

Keep in mind than when you use YNOT Mail you get me for support.... And I am pretty easy to work with.

I had no idea!!!!! I don't think I've ever used support there but now I know =)

amvcdotcom 03-24-2015 05:49 PM

are we behind the times? we use phplist on our own server for email lists.

His Infernal Majesty 03-24-2015 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20420587)
Amazon SES + Sendy.co

Haven't heard of this one, looks promising! Thanks for posting!:thumbsup

Rochard 03-24-2015 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amvcdotcom (Post 20428323)
are we behind the times? we use phplist on our own server for email lists.

All you are doing is sending bulk email in the blind. Chances are you are blacklisted all over the place.

brentbacardi 03-24-2015 10:39 PM

I was literally just thinking about providing a live feed of new email addresses of people opting in for adult. Anyone skype me if interested to discuss.

Skype: brentofferboost

AmeliaG 03-24-2015 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 20420552)
Yes. Plenty do.

YNOT is just a skinned version of Interspire last I knew, which is something you can purchase yourself without the middle man. The main difference to my understanding is that you have Rochard for support to hold your hand if you do not know how to mail at all. If you send any REAL volume, Interspire is not the best MTA and there are plenty better.

As for the other stuff you mentioned in regard to the majors/tld (aol, hotmail, gmail, etc), you are correct. Each has different rules, throttles, hourly limits, among other tweaks needed to get into the inbox. If you have a decent sized list, you will need to segment it accordingly to be effective.

Most of the adult membership and newsletters I have seen to date are mainly the majors (aol, hotmail, gmail). Meaning, most seem to use those for their porn. Each one of those is a different bag o tricks to email properly, and you should learn them. You can always go to a real ESP with clean ips and try and mail out that way, as they typically will have some level of trust from the different ISP, but, that can be pricey when you pay according to volume.

Good luck.

It seems like they just kind of stopped doing anything to improve Interspire.

What software do you like better?

dotcommer 03-25-2015 02:14 AM

There are some nice tools you can build into Interspire. It's a great software for managing your lists, open/click stats etc... Years ago we spent a lot of time building our own software and Interspire is leaps and bounds more than we had back then.

There is a lot more that goes into mailing then people think. Anyone can send mail, getting into the inbox is very difficult these days, but still possible.

split_joel 03-25-2015 07:28 AM

Hello,

Feel free to hit me up at splitjoelp on skype I think I will be able to help.

lukaswolf 03-25-2015 08:07 AM

also used ynotmail, was fully satisfied by this service

Panty Snatcher 03-25-2015 08:41 AM

Hard to compete with companies like until . . .

PimpMastah 12-20-2017 01:26 PM

I was looking for a good newsletter service allowing adult and found this thread.

The reason I bring this old thread back to life is to ask if YNOTMAIL offers API to add subscribers to an email list without a form?

Rochard 12-20-2017 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PimpMastah (Post 22126533)
I was looking for a good newsletter service allowing adult and found this thread.

The reason I bring this old thread back to life is to ask if YNOTMAIL offers API to add subscribers to an email list without a form?

We sure do!! Hit me up directly and I can share our API info with you.....

rochard @ ynot dot com

sexsami 12-20-2017 01:36 PM

i use https://www.ynotmail.com/

PimpMastah 12-20-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22126539)
We sure do!! Hit me up directly and I can share our API info with you.....

rochard @ ynot dot com

Great news! I emailed you :-)

Thanks Rochard!

money biz 12-20-2017 09:02 PM

if you got the $$ POWERMTA is what you want. Sendy.co is good too just gota be smart with it.

phil-flash 12-20-2017 10:48 PM

What would an uncleaned list of 100k email addresses do on average with one of these adult email companies?

Spend $300 to mail, and make $500? Or something like that?

Rochard 12-21-2017 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil-flash (Post 22127298)
What would an uncleaned list of 100k email addresses do on average with one of these adult email companies?

Spend $300 to mail, and make $500? Or something like that?

You don't want to use an old list to mail out.... Start with the most recent emails you've collected such as all of the people that bought a membership in the past two years but have canceled. Then continue to build your list with new customers, and an email collection box on every web page you have.

I've always loved your work and would kill to have you as a customer....

Vendzilla 12-21-2017 06:36 AM

be your own service https://www.atompark.com/bulk-email-service/ I haven't used this yet, but have used their verifier software for some large lists I have.

videosc 01-01-2018 02:18 PM

I wish ynotmail offered a scale downed free version, maybe something with a 250 subscriber limit, so people can try it out first. I've seen other email services do this (not porn friendly ones though).

Major (Tom) 01-01-2018 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20420811)
Anyone can purchase Interspire, install it, and blast out email blindly. In most cases you will quickly end up being blacklisted from the major ISPs, and will have little recourse in getting unlisted. You will not be able to reach inboxes, and potentially your regular pop3 email will end up in spam too.

Interspire is only the first layer of software with YNOT Mail. There is other software involved, multiple servers, upstream providers, DKIM and SPF records, conflict resolution, PLUS support.

Our last several mail campaigns ended up in spam. At least on my own boxes.can we get on skype to see what issues there may be?
Thank Rochard
Duke

Rochard 01-01-2018 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by videosc (Post 22142862)
I wish ynotmail offered a scale downed free version, maybe something with a 250 subscriber limit, so people can try it out first. I've seen other email services do this (not porn friendly ones though).

Hit me up.... We can arrange some kind of a small test.

Rochard 01-01-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22142874)
Our last several mail campaigns ended up in spam. At least on my own boxes.can we get on skype to see what issues there may be?
Thank Rochard
Duke

Of course of course!

Colmike9 01-01-2018 03:22 PM

If anyone is promoting with emails and wants to try something that converts great, contact me. Col.mike7 .//at\ yahoo dot .com

Or if you're a blackhat mailer with big lists, we need to talk.. :x

Markul 01-02-2018 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20420587)
Amazon SES + Sendy.co

This. Best advice in this thread.. ynot is not great, overpriced and as was mentioned, just a skinned script.

j3rkules 01-02-2018 01:44 AM

I have also been using Amazon SES and Sendy lately and I am pretty happy with the results.

HomerSimpson 01-03-2018 10:54 AM

Another happy Amazon SES + Sendy user! :thumbsup

TopOffers 01-11-2018 07:02 AM

ynotmail for sure!

travs 05-12-2018 05:17 AM

man I think I've been living under a rock...it's always been my dream to do email marketing in Adult. Nice thread! Thanks for this!


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