Charleston attack is assassination not hate crime
 

It will come out soon...

It was premeditated murder. There is no need to attempt to label it any more specific than that.

go make sum sandwiches idiot :2 cents::2 cents: go read his words he said to the parishioners. :disgust

Jeb Bush called the church shootings an accident -- later he claimed he meant "incident".

Freudian slip?

he was an accident. fukin dollar store rubbers :disgust

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Are you saying that it can't be both an assassination and a hate crime?

That makes no sense.

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...said every postman at your front door?

‪#‎Fact1‬. Reverend/South Carolina Senator Clementa Pinckney (Killed) was the leading activist and community leader pushing and demanding that cops in Charleston South Carolina be forced to wear body cameras after the shooting of Walter Scott IN THE SAME CITY

‪#‎Fact2‬. The shooter was "GIVEN" a gun days after the shooting of Walter Scott

‪#‎Fact3‬. The shooter's first request when walking in the church was, "where the minister, I want to meet the minister"

‪#‎Fact4‬. The shooter lived 110 miles away from that church, if it was a "HATE CRIME" against black people, then why didn't he just shoot up any other black church, you can't randomly pick a church 110 miles away from your residence

#‎Fact5‬ He didn't attempt to kill everyone in the church but reloaded his gun 5 times, what person that commits a "HATE CRIME" spares people lives, if you hate all black people why not kill them all and he was actually heard saying "I want witnesses"

You are correct. It could be.

an assignation is a targeted murder for political or monetary reason, usually by by a paid third party ...

A hate crime is a traditional criminal offense like murder, arson, invasion of privacy or vandalism with an added element of bias towards a federally protected class of people.

sense made :2 cents:

BTW how does it feel to be federally protected like an endangered animal or plant?

Man i think you are taking my words the wrong way and i have not worked at subway in like 5 or 6 years!!! :1orglaugh

he wasn't motivated by racism. He was motivated by psychotropic drugs.

I mean I wish it didnt happen, whether it was either or Im not sure but I have a feeling theres more than meets the eye

You can ask yourself that question...since every race is considered a protected class...and thus any killing that targets any race is a hate crime.

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There is no such thing as protected classes.

The FBI should make sure you have no access to guns.

That's what's up.

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When I saw Pinckney on the list that's the first thing I thought of. "HIT." Kid was coached thats for sure. On his own he sounds a mess. I hope they are looking at his family and associates.
I know the area well. Family has been there and in the region for more than 300 years.
Its become a weird mix of NRA, AB, Mexican gangs, Ultra-left and black people caught in the middle. I feel bad for the innocents.

I'm going to wait for the Youtube videos. They allay come up with the true government connection.:winkwink:

It doesnt matters he couldn't control himself n ppl are dead

#Fact6. Putting Fact# in front of a sentence does not make it truthful or factual ... :2 cents:

do your home work.... not true at all... some subclass of race are federally protected... like homosexuals, and white women so your safe, but on whole white people are not federally protected...

in fact aren't all discrimination lawsuits against while people? so would white people be federally non protected or federally targeted?

either way not my concern.... I had no idea about this anyway until I looked up due to brassmonters question :2 cents:

It was a hate crime. He wanted to kill blacks. He wanted to bring back segragation and was worried that blacks were taking over.

This was a hate crime.

I really hope your therapist is monitoring the idiotic shit you post.

It was a hate crime. He wanted to kill blacks. He wanted to bring back segragation and was worried that blacks were taking over.

This was a hate crime.

Wrong. All race fall under a protected class...not just "some subclass of race":

"Federal protected classes now include race, color, national origin, religion, sex (or gender), age (over 40), and disability. State law (HEPA) further protects ancestry, marital status, sexual orientation, as well as arrest and court record (in most cases)."


Protected Class Law & Legal Definition



Wrong again...white plaintiffs have won cases where they have been victims of racial discrimination:

"McDonald v. Santa Fe Trail Transportation Co., 427 U.S. 273, 96 S.Ct. 2574 (1976). Two White employees and one Black employee were charged with stealing property from their employer. The two White employees were fired while the Black employee was retained. In the first big reverse discrimination case, the Court decided that Title VII is not limited to discrimination against minority persons, but includes discriminatory actions against majority persons as well."

"Reverse" Cases



Where did you "look it up"? A simple Google search would have resulted int he links I just posted above.

i stand corrected.

Another case where a white person successfully claimed he was a victim of racial discrimination. So your premise is entirely false.


White Employee Wins Racial-Discrimination Lawsuit

"White supervisor fired for racial email has valid discrimination case over unequal discipline. A white supervisor received and then forwarded to others in the company a racial email titled ?Why There Are No Black NASCAR Drivers.? It contained a series of derogatory stereotypes of Blacks. The supervisor was fired for violating the company?s anti-harassment and improper-computer-use policies. He sued under Title VII, claiming that the discharge was racially discriminatory. The court agreed that he had a valid case because, in the same time frame, several Black employees had been using company email to circulate ?How to Dance Like a White Guy!? It contained a series of derogatory terms and stereotyped characterizations of white men. However, these employees only received short-term suspensions for violation of the harassment and computer policies. There was an appearance of racial disparity in the issuing of discipline for virtually the same infraction. Smith v. Lockheed-Martin Corp. (11th Cir., 2011)."

White Employee Wins Racial-Discrimination Lawsuit - DiversityInc

That fact has changed a bit across the past 24 hours.

Dylann Roof confesses to killing 9 people in Charleston church, wanting to start ‘race war’ | myfox8.com

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You are correct in principle because of the way he presented the argument.

He tried to equate "Race is a protected class" with "Black is a protected class".
You were simply saying that "black is not a protected class anymore than any other race".
And that's correct based on the law.

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thanks for the info :thumbsup

Nah, this wasnt about race.

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Racist Website Appears to Belong to Charleston Church Shooter Dylan Roof

a buddy of mine was a buyer for a large chain.... had woman boss that was paying women more than him even though he had far more experience... let's hope his lawsuit has similar success... now go down and join a woman's gym :thumbsup

would you care to have an adult dialogue regarding this? obviously you are addressing my earlier post.

Not really. I have better things to do than spend the day arguing with someone who wants to claim Suboxone turned some southern redneck into a racist.

i gave you the benefit of the doubt. but i'm not surprised you are unable to have an adult dialogue.

enjoy your day!

i gave you the benefit of the doubt. but i'm not surprised you are unable to have an adult dialogue.




p.s. don't you fucking ever put words in my mouth about my views again after i respectfully ask you if you would like to hear them from me you elitist closed-minded fuckwad libtard.

Maybe you should start another thread whining like a little girl about other people calling you names. :1orglaugh

it was about golds gym...

the funny thing is how serious you knuckleheads think playing gfy armchair psychologist is.



while the killer identified as white supremacist, many experts happen to be peeling the onion back a few more layers trying to find answers. some of those experts link the "toxic masculinity" that is medicated against in schools as well as frowned upon by a primarily female dominated education system and psychology industry creating male youths with problem identities.

combined with what we know for certain, each and every one of these sorts of mass killers had experience with psychotropic drugs and our education system.

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I had a feeling this was going to come up, even I had thoughts about it. the whole idea of hate crimes bothers me. Why should he be treated any differently for killing 9 people based on what his motivation was? Life no parole regardless. or death if you believe in the death penalty.

Are you saying that these 9 people are worth more because he hated them or are you saying that they would have been worth less if he hadnt hated them?

Hate crimes are in and of themselves anti equality

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man i'm sorry you have a attorney mind :helpme sharp as hell

It should be treated as a hate crime because his crime inspires the kind of anger that leads to revenge attacks.

Revenge attacks = race war.

Why give this asshole what he wants?


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but thats why they are charged with lesser crimes capital murder is capital murder regardless of the intent