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camgirl - sassyhelen - Chaturbate referral stealing
The fake overlay is only showing on her cam and I checked the redirects so she must be the one stealing.
Sucks she is at the top of the list so everyone using top converting flow link is feeding her chat. I have sent this information to support but it's the weekend so probably won't be removed soon. chaturbate.com/sassyhelen puu.sh/ltRob/2bc1242417.jpg Click to expand page and remove ADS You can see she has a fake remove ads overlay linking to tinyurl. chaturbate.com/external_link/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fchaturbate-remove-ads&domain=tinyurl.com It then redirects them back to her cam under her affiliate url. chaturbate.com/affiliates/in/dT8X/u5hOj/?track=default&room=sassyhelen Greedy ass doesn't understand the cost of sending traffic to her chat. Hopefully she gets banned or all referrals removed from her account at the very least. |
Actually she works for chaturbate. They work hand in hand to screw legit webmasters :)
I will expect more models from chaturbate studios using this method in the future. |
bump to get cb's attention
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Chaturbate's Terms & Conditions say :
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All broadcasters are independent contractors. Im looking into this now.
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I can give her some appreciation. That is a very good click bait call to action. She should jump into affiliate marketing.
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Well, it appears that the external link is gone.
https://chaturbate.com/sassyhelen/ Or you can let me steal your referral at Chat with Sassyhelen in a Live Adult Video Chat Room Now ;p Thanks Punker :thumbsup . |
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Many models link their affiliate id in their profile, not exactly the same thing, but it is still bs that they can do it.
They should have to bring new traffic, not simply steal traffic that was already sent there by someone else. |
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Is there a good reason the cam hosts don't just make that type of linking illegal?
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Well I am director of different cam sites since 10+ years and I never seen 1 single new pay user "really found by a cam girl" and let signup into a cam site, by a cam girl. What the cam girls call "own marketing" or the concept of "indy cam girl", it is setting up a twitter or else site/account with same username they have in cam sites, in the hope that the cam site users (all of which bring by affiliates or cam site's own media buying) will google her name and find her outside the site. This is indirect stealing. Or, the model will "actively steal" the guy out of the cam site, i.e. passing links, skype accounts or whatever. If the site allows or is unable to monitor, she will hardcode the links - even more smart way as this model done, transforming affiliate links into her own links, not even needed to send the users elsewhere.
The good news for cam sites (but not for affiliates), it is that most models need a cam site anyway as "skype+paypal/western union" is not feasible or wanted by every user and/or model, so the models bounce the users between cam sites anyway. So if model1 steals 10 users from site A, she brings +10 users to site B (with her affiliate account, doubling her %). Also, model2 will steal 10 users from site B into site A. Do the math, this is ok for both site A and site B, as long as number of users stealing into, is at least equal to users stealed out. For affiliates this is only bad news, because the model replaces all the times the affiliate ID of the affiliate with her own, in the process of bonce the user between sites (or, as this smart one, not even need to bounce betweem sites, but doing a live replace of affiliate id before of signup). |
Not to defend the shady tactics, but the chaturbate cookies are 1 month and not overwritable?
So if you did send traffic to her page, your cookie will stick and you get any sales, since it was there first. Her cookie will only be set if there was no cookies there before. Or I am misunderstanding something, as always... |
With so many cam options why does anyone promote Chaturbate to begin with? Crazy.
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edited in: That is without spending anything on traffic and without touching any sites code since February. . |
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My answer is $17k this year without putting out any effort is why someone (me) would promote them. . |
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ok, just kidding, but 40-45% is nice :pimp |
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Nice job! :thumbsup |
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I wouldn't promote them myself but I sealed my fate with the devil long ago. :helpme . |
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how do affs attract clients to send to their sponsor sites? what makes you assume that cammers don't avail themselves of the same menu of methods? just because you don't see what we do doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. you work in a very specific segment of the market in a role that inherently sets you apart from the work of your contractors that you disparage. extrapolating that personal experience to a monolithic conclusion is just...intellectually lazy and totally devoid of imagination I have mad respect for you but you are so fucking wrong |
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Much like it is most probable that there is alien life in outer space, it is enough probable that cam girls could exist, who are not in cam sites, and find/generate so many pay users who do not come from cam sites, in some way I ignore. My statement is super correct in my specific segment, which is a few thousands of cam models I deal with, in particular a sample of few hundreds me (and my admins) talk frankly with. However, I do know models who are not in our cam sites (or any cam site) exist, for example you do not login my cam site since 03-Dec-2013, I see, so I have no any idea where and how you, specifically, are getting new pay users (perhaps, the outer space). |
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as to your site, not sure how that is relevant but let's go with that. I did try it briefly but it didn't work for me. It's a great site with some laudable model terms, it just wasn't for me. I just simply don't have a lifestyle that enables me to jump on cam the picosecond a guy decides to purchase a show. Camming fits into the life I've built and continue to build, I've worked hard to not have to shape my life around it. when I'm available if it takes me 10 mins to finish whatever I'm doing and head inside to cam my guys wait for me and I adore them for that. I get new ones every day due to my own efforts , I just can't cam as much as I used to due to other responsibilities so I pass em on elsewhere when I'm busy and receive a percentage for my efforts. when I can see 'em myself I do though. despite not having worked a big box cam site in eons the traffic I acquire must come from outer space...completely rational and plausible conclusion :thumbsup You're good peeps but fuck me your perspective is mesozoic |
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I'm a sucker for t-shirts. :) |
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Followers: 240955
Money talks. |
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chaturbate is good , leave PB alone
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chaterbate is torure on the girls...
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It would have been a disservice not to disclose both mine and your information in the forum. I am sorry you called my information "comically insulting and illogical, intellectually lazy and totally devoid of imagination, so fucking wrong, mesozoic". I instead believe your information it is also true. Except my personal curiosity to know how you get cam customers, our joint efforts can let us create an unprecedented collection of data from different sources, which can be used by historians as a base of books and so on. Specifically, you claim to have information I miss, which is how you get guys: "I get new [cam customers] every day due to my own efforts". Those "my own efforts", connected with a successful "new every day"... you wrote: "how do affs attract clients to send to their sponsor sites? what makes you assume that cammers don't avail themselves of the same menu of methods?". So you say you do same as an affiliate, right? Just you are an affiliate + cam model. Well most affiliates do not generate 1+ new pay user per day, but more likely one per week or less. If I look at mine sites (and in general all the cam sites) affiliates stats, you see that 90% of new customers are sent by 1% of the affiliates, which own big sites (like, tubes, but not only). Then hundreds of other affiliates, the 99% of them, are bringing collectively the 10% of users. I do know of cam models (but more often, studios) who also are affiliates, but they can generate those small signups (yes I admin, some cam models can do a few), which alone however, would not sustain themselves as models - and anyway, that's like 1 model every 100 which can generate these like 1 signup every week or less. It could of course be that models able to generate many signups (in a way I ignore) do not stay online in cam sites at all, and so the cam sites totally miss that part of the story. Still, it would be right to state that those models who are active in the cam sites, are not bringing own customers. |
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I get about 60% of all users that hit the sites to the sponsor. So, going from the actual users that hit my sites it is about 1 in 48 that sign up. http://www.madspiders.com/images/cb_2015.jpg http://www.madspiders.com/images/analytics_2015.jpg . |
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I still make more money with CB than with other cam programs , maybe thats why I get a lot of traffic from SE on the sites where I promote them and I tried to change those sites on another cam sponsor but it was a fiasco so I stay with them and I promote other programs on other sites !
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Try LJ, I have X 2 with them, just saying.
Also that guy called you out but makes less with his stats so wtf is that? lol |
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