Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20792892)

Now that feminism has made its point - hey, women can do (almost) anything a man can do! - do most women today want to work or would they prefer getting married, being "taken care of", raising the kids and letting hubby deal with the stress of a job? I say the latter.

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20792988)

If you have a small child and are in a very cosmopolitan city like NYC all you have to do is take your kid along with you when you go to a downtown area and 30-ish women cannot help but stare at the cute kid. Their DNA is screaming "I want a kid" but the social engineering they have been subjected to all their lives says "kids will destroy your life". This is the age when women begin to understand they have been hoodwinked. I have had a few business cards handed to me after we talked and they realized I was not married.:thumbsup

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a female wanting to be educated or even working in a high flying career but they should also be told that most of them will be devastated if they spend their fertile years opening their legs for every degenerate bad boy and then end up rushing to get married only to have so much trouble getting pregnant at 35 years of age. One of my sisters works in a prestigious law firm and is going nuts right now because she is trying to find meaning in life after turning 45 and realizing she is lonely. I get lots of cat pictures via text. In fact I know a few other females who text me pics of their cats.

So women SHOULD be educated and SHOULD have ambitions but this idea that kids are something that will ruin your life should be discouraged. Men are not affected as much by this idea because they can have kids as long as their sperm is good so even if you are 60 you can still impregnate females.

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20793012)

does anyone seem happy where you live? do men like slaving away the most vital years of their lives?

modern civilization and life is inhuman and shitty. our bodies and brains evolved for a life much different.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20793147)

Excellent post. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20793360)

I am so so so so grateful I get to do both very comfortably.

Most of my friends would definitely choose to stay home if they could afford it.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20793384)

Yes, the thread offers a limited choice I know. LOL I think the ideal would be what you have going on, which is to stay at home, have the family and work at something fulfilling (and profitable).

The only problem there? No escape. LOL My friend who works from home is dealing with that now, always having the kids around. Drives him nuts. :D

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20793384)

Yes, the thread offers a limited choice I know. LOL I think the ideal would be what you have going on, which is to stay at home, have the family and work at something fulfilling (and profitable).

The only problem there? No escape. LOL My friend who works from home is dealing with that now, always having the kids around. Drives him nuts. :D

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20793459)

A freelance developer here in town solved that problem by getting office space. Children prevented getting work done.

Office space is cheap here. In downtown there's a lot of empty space above stores and he gets an office of 3 rooms (500-600 sq ft) for about $200 a month.

The office is a 5-6 minute walk for him.

Problem solved.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20793204)

Most of the British women I know from my generation see a housewife as a failure, hence why I had to import from South America

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20794083)

Women will always be miserable ...

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20794089)

Women will always be miserable no matter what ...

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20794104)

Women will always be miserable no matter what ...

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20794107)

Women will always be miserable no matter what ...

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20794167)

Funny that. I imported from South Africa.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20792892)

Living here in New York City the streets are filled with professional women of all ages and ethnicities running to their offices so they can work 10-12 hours a day. Throw in commuting and you can add an additional hour+ (sometimes each way) to their day. I look at their faces and in their eyes and they do not seem.....happy. :(

A recent example made me wonder: a woman I know who went to college, graduated tops in her class, got a 100K+ year job on Wall Street and lives in a swank upscale apartment just got married. Her husband makes about the same as her. She is selling her apartment, quitting her job, they are moving out to New Jersey and she will be...staying at home to raise the kids. "I'm done with working, commuting, wasting my life to make other people money," she says.

Now that feminism has made its point - hey, women can do (almost) anything a man can do! - do most women today want to work or would they prefer getting married, being "taken care of", raising the kids and letting hubby deal with the stress of a job? I say the latter.

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20793012)

does anyone seem happy where you live? do men like slaving away the most vital years of their lives?

modern civilization and life is inhuman and shitty. our bodies and brains evolved for a life much different.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20794179)

The above example of the woman going to college, getting a great job, then getting married having a baby, moving to NJ, and leaving her job to raise a family... If you can do that, wouldn't you?

For some people, having a child changes everything. Why work if you don't have to and you can spend time raising your children?

Why work ten hours a day in the rat race to afford an expensive apartment in the city when you can get a big house in the suburbs for less and not work?

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20794449)

It's pretty clear that a reason why the us labor participation rate is as low as it's been since 1977 is because the participation rate for women has fallen slightly after hitting a peak in the late 90s following sharp post-WWII growth. So yes I think there is something




Ambitious people from all over the world come here because it's the best place in the world for them to pursue their ambitions.

The people who come here tend to come from places where they were considered to be amongst the brightest amongst their peers. Or for some other reason which causes them to feel as if they've outgrown their hometowns. They want more.

Then when they get here they then soon realize that things are a bit more competitive. The see more money the. A lot them can't handle it because all the money here and with the cost of living being as high as it is and all the competition, they drive themselves crazy until they get burnt out and can't take it anymore. Then they leave.

So basically unhappiness giveth and unhappiness taketh away. At least that's what I've seen.

I'm 39 now and dude I can't tell you how many 'going away' parties I've been to since moving here at 22. Seemed like there was one at least every month from the ages of 29-35. I had a pretty tight group of about 8 or so friends in my early to mid-20s and now I'm the only one left. It's kind of depressing. And I don't have a ton of money and am for sure not the best or brightest at anything, at least not yet, so it's kind of surprising that I've been able to exist here for so long without going completely crazy.

Yet while I'm not entirely happy here but there are things which I've become accustomed to that would not be at my disposal in a lesser city. Not just the arts and stuff like that but just the dynamic. The intangibles. Places like London and Paris are options but both come with logistical complications and are even more expensive. Asians tend to be funny looking and more often than not annoy the hell out of me so Asia is not a viable option. Well maybe Japan would be fine but only Tokyo and it seems like the process of moving there and logistics of it all would be a major pain in the ass. Montreal is nice but the winters are rough and it would probably bore me within a year. Everywhere else in the US would bore me to tears within 6 months.

There's really just nowhere else to go, but I know it could be a lot worse, so I make it work.

I forget what your question was but hopefully something I wrote was in some way useful or insightful.

Where are you by the way?

I just came across this company in Edmonton who seems doing world class data visualization work. Really interesting stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/cpSaplq.gif

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20792892)

Living here in New York City

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20794449)

Yet while I'm not entirely happy here but there are things which I've become accustomed to that would not be at my disposal in a lesser city.

I just came across this company in Edmonton who seems doing world class data visualization work. Really interesting stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/cpSaplq.gif

Originally Posted by selena (Post 20798879)

I am envious of you both. I want to move to NYC.

That is an awesome image!

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20799158)

New York would welcome you!! :)

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20794467)

Space is overrated, the suburbs are boring, and New Jersey smells.

And I have an expensive apartment in Manhattan and until lately had not worked 10 hour days for 2-3 years. I have been lately but it doesn't feel like it because I'm doing what I want. Certainly one of the last things I'd want to worry about right now while doing what i'm doing is an extra room to furnish. Seriously. I don't see why people need so much space.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20799344)

Everyone is different.

I couldn't imagine living in an apartment. But that's me. A quick search shows me $3200 - $12k for a three bedroom apartment. (A three bedroom is a bare minimum for me.) Instead, I pay $1500 for my roomy 3500 sq foot house with four bedrooms, a playroom and two garages.

I disagree the suburbs are boring. With the exception of museums, we have pretty much the same stuff you have in the city. We have tons of restaurants, bars, breweries, and taprooms. We have movies, bowling, etc. We also have things you do not have - My town has it's own little airport and it's own air show, and we also have things like wineries. You might go to Chinatown for Chinese, but we have three Chinese restaurants here in town as it is. We also have Vietnamese, Afghani, Indian, Sushi, etc.

New Jersey smells? That's news to me. I am a Jersey boy myself, born in Lakewood NJ, but raised in rural New Jersey almost in Pennsylvania. Where I lived it was beautiful, all rural. I also lived in Brooklyn too when I was a teen.

It's a trade off. You pay out the ass to live in the city, and frankly you get little bang for your buck.

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20794467)

Space is overrated, the suburbs are boring, and New Jersey smells.

And I have an expensive apartment in Manhattan and until lately had not worked 10 hour days for 2-3 years. I have been lately but it doesn't feel like it because I'm doing what I want. Certainly one of the last things I'd want to worry about right now while doing what i'm doing is an extra room to furnish. Seriously. I don't see why people need so much space.

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20794089)

Women will always be miserable no matter what ...

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20799779)

I would say mine is expensive, but what do you mean when you say that? I live on the upper west side and I do miss having woods every once in a while, but I'd sooner bang Phyllis Schafly than ever live in the suburbs, anywhere. It's either rural, or Manhattan.

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20800712)

My fiance is an engineer, has a degree from a very good school and one from China for some reason, her parents are both attorneys above the top 10% earners and she wants me to be a stay at home dad in the future. I'm not used to that...
At least I can work from home. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20800706)

I'm on the UWS too (kinda). We should get a drink sometime and dish about GFY. LOL We'll get JimmyCooper to come with us!

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20800712)

My fiance is an engineer, has a degree from a very good school and one from China for some reason, her parents are both attorneys above the top 10% earners and she wants me to be a stay at home dad in the future. I'm not used to that...
At least I can work from home. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20800742)

Nothing wrong with it. It's an admirable job taking care of children and your home, and a very important one. If you can also make money doing it, you are fucking rocking!!!!

Originally Posted by selena (Post 20800778)

I will fly in and crash your party. ;)

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20800790)

Wow you scored big time man congrats! Is your fiance Asian? Just wondering as just about every Asian woman I've met is super accomplished and educated. LOL

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20799530)

In terms of what you get for your $ you are correct. But the opportunities for superior work at the top of your chosen profession makes New York hard to beat.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20799530)

As far having the same things as cities: yes you do but the quality is about 20-25% less than the nearest city. Why? Because of population and traffic. A small town has a few thousand people and if the Chinese food sucks people will go, "At least it's in town..." and probably still eat it because there's limited choice (and some Chinese is better than none).

Tastes are often less-sophiticated in general in the 'burbs. More people often = more interaction with other people therefore 'dynamic tension' that can produce amazing results. In the 'burbs people "nest" and are more isolated. They settle more while city folk are loud, annoying bitches. LOL