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Joshua G 05-02-2016 03:58 AM

prediction: GOP convention united, dem convention CHAOS
 
why? because trump will win 1st ballot & the cruz idiots will finally shut their mouths.

& the email investigation will be done by july, & its going to make the dems go crazy realizing they are about to nominate an accused felon. the party delegates may not automatically rally around bernie, might go with biden instead.

the riots from disenfranchised bernie supporters will dwarf what moveon.org/BLM will bring to the GOP convention.

funny cause on paper the dems are the smarter party, but so corrupt & obsessed with identity they cant connect to independents. the bromides of trade war & immigration limits plays better than tax, spend, & find offense in everything.

:)

ilnjscb 05-02-2016 07:20 AM

Nope. Let's see how Indiana goes tomorrow.

Joshua G 05-02-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20870801)
Nope. Let's see how Indiana goes tomorrow.

I know. hard to see. but if you factor out liberal bias, ted cruz delusions, & look objectively at the FBI investigation, you will see the truth. FBI is going to throw the biggest wrench into this election. how will the dem convention look nominating an accused felon? just not a point of view being taken seriously, exactly like trump was never taken seriously.

but a conspiracy to circumvent national security laws, freedom of information laws...pretty massive felony not being taken seriously by the news media. the same media that legitimizes left wing violence, blames trump for rioters actions. the liberals in the media are basically pro-crime libs now. illegal immigration? not a crime. too many blacks in jail? justice systems fault. mishandling state secrets? no big deal.

:2 cents:

mineistaken 05-02-2016 04:07 PM

Trump, the uniter!

marcop 05-02-2016 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20871653)
I know. hard to see. but if you factor out liberal bias, ted cruz delusions, & look objectively at the FBI investigation, you will see the truth. FBI is going to throw the biggest wrench into this election. how will the dem convention look nominating an accused felon? just not a point of view being taken seriously, exactly like trump was never taken seriously.

but a conspiracy to circumvent national security laws, freedom of information laws...pretty massive felony not being taken seriously by the news media. the same media that legitimizes left wing violence, blames trump for rioters actions. the liberals in the media are basically pro-crime libs now. illegal immigration? not a crime. too many blacks in jail? justice systems fault. mishandling state secrets? no big deal.

:2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Joshua G 05-02-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20871662)
Trump, the uniter!

the liberal media will never never never let that narrative happen. the left will always sell the donald as a divider & opposed to everyone not white & male.

whats scary is how much worse the fog is going to get, not only into the election, but after the election. after the media gins up a bunch of black people to ransack their college because trump won the presidency, they will blame trump. every black man jailed will be cause of trumps racism. every terror attack, trump is not protecting us. every bad day in the stock market? trumps trade war to blame. big snowfall in DC? trump is causing climate change.

endless bullshit, as far as the eye can see. :2 cents:

bronco67 05-02-2016 04:24 PM

Bush and Cheney killed thousands of US soldiers by starting an unnecessary war under false pretenses, yet sending and receiving emails makes Hilary the biggest criminal ever. Put things in perspective, dunce.

Axeman 05-02-2016 04:31 PM

The justice department is all bought and paid for. Hillary has nothing to worry about.

Joshua G 05-02-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20871719)
Bush and Cheney killed thousands of US soldiers by starting an unnecessary war under false pretenses, yet sending and receiving emails makes Hilary the biggest criminal ever. Put things in perspective, dunce.

false comparison...hilary voted for all that, as did most dems. remember? :1orglaugh

so far 3 posts critical of me, zero with any substance, & 1 so far with a personal attack. this is my liberal opposition. no substance, all name calling.

:)

Joshua G 05-02-2016 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20871719)
Bush and Cheney killed thousands of US soldiers by starting an unnecessary war under false pretenses, yet sending and receiving emails makes Hilary the biggest criminal ever. Put things in perspective, dunce.

also as a matter of LAW, the US was authorized by congress to do the Iraq war. In contrast, hilary has broken so many laws its taking FBI a year to investigate it all.

your so liberal you cant even make a distinction between a lawfully declared war & committing espionage.

dunce! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-02-2016 05:55 PM

was reading yesterday hillary actual has fewer votes now than she did running against BO this time in the 2008 race.

ahahahahahah.

she's never been in this race. she was anointed to run. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 05-02-2016 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20870468)
.....the email investigation will be done by july, & its going to make the dems go crazy realizing they are about to nominate an accused felon.

What exactly would she be charged with, and what would the punishment be?

General Petraeus shared classified information with a reporter he was banging, and he was only charged with a misdemeanor.

dyna mo 05-02-2016 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20871983)
What exactly would she be charged with, and what would the punishment be?

General Petraeus shared classified information with a reporter he was banging, and he was only charged with a misdemeanor.

Heads up, general petraeus had to resign in disgrace and the FBI had recommended felony charges against him. Hardly presidential.

Sly 05-02-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20871995)
Heads up, general petraeus had to resign in disgrace and the FBI had recommended felony charges against him. Hardly presidential.

Not to mention, how do we compare a "disgraced General" (not running for president) to a former First Lady, Secretary of State, and Senator (running for president?)

dyna mo 05-02-2016 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20872010)
Not to mention, how do we compare a "disgraced General" (not running for president) to a former First Lady, Secretary of State, and Senator (running for president?)

Yeah, I wasn't sure about that part either. 2 wrongs make a right or something.....

Mr Pheer 05-02-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20871983)
What exactly would she be charged with, and what would the punishment be?

General Petraeus shared classified information with a reporter he was banging, and he was only charged with a misdemeanor.

It's embarrassing to see a fellow veteran have no clue about how a security clearance works.

If you or I did what she did, we'd be in jail.

But I realize that you just don't understand and you will never understand these kind of things.

kane 05-02-2016 09:45 PM

I just read today that the guy in charge of the investigation of Hillary has said that the investigation will likely linger into 2017 and not be complete by November so it looks like there is a good chance nothing will happen to Hillary before the election.

Rochard 05-02-2016 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20872031)
It's embarrassing to see a fellow veteran have no clue about how a security clearance works.

If you or I did what she did, we'd be in jail.

But I realize that you just don't understand and you will never understand these kind of things.

Being as you think you are so smart, perhaps you should explain it to us. Explain to us what she could be charged with, and what the punishment could be.

Before we go after Clinton, let's talk about the State Department itself. Seems former Secretary of State Colin Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice BOTH used personal emails to transmit classified information, and so did their staff. In fact, it seems this was common at the State Department. It's also not uncommon in Congress itself.

At the worst it seems she can be charged with "mishandling classified information". Generally speaking the only people ever charged with this is either people who intentionally leaked information (to the press or other governments), or people who were so careless with classified information that it was leaked (to the press or other governments). This is not the case here, there was no bad intention, there was no leak, and this was a common practice allowed by two other Secretaries Of State.

In order to be charged under the Espionage Act there has to be "intent" to injure the United States, and that is clearly not the case.

Let's just keep burning our tax dollars investigating this crap. I am completely serious here - Let's keep investigating. The Republican party's plan has been to make Clinton look bad over the email server and Benghazi. We've have ten different investigations into Benghazi and not one of them have shown Clinton did anything wrong. The email server investigation is more of the same - there was no intention to leak information, no information was leaked, there is no law that says the Secretary Of State cannot use her own email server, and it was common practice to do so being as at least two other former Secretaries Of State did the same exact thing.

kane 05-03-2016 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20872187)
Being as you think you are so smart, perhaps you should explain it to us. Explain to us what she could be charged with, and what the punishment could be.

Before we go after Clinton, let's talk about the State Department itself. Seems former Secretary of State Colin Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice BOTH used personal emails to transmit classified information, and so did their staff. In fact, it seems this was common at the State Department. It's also not uncommon in Congress itself.

At the worst it seems she can be charged with "mishandling classified information". Generally speaking the only people ever charged with this is either people who intentionally leaked information (to the press or other governments), or people who were so careless with classified information that it was leaked (to the press or other governments). This is not the case here, there was no bad intention, there was no leak, and this was a common practice allowed by two other Secretaries Of State.

In order to be charged under the Espionage Act there has to be "intent" to injure the United States, and that is clearly not the case.

Let's just keep burning our tax dollars investigating this crap. I am completely serious here - Let's keep investigating. The Republican party's plan has been to make Clinton look bad over the email server and Benghazi. We've have ten different investigations into Benghazi and not one of them have shown Clinton did anything wrong. The email server investigation is more of the same - there was no intention to leak information, no information was leaked, there is no law that says the Secretary Of State cannot use her own email server, and it was common practice to do so being as at least two other former Secretaries Of State did the same exact thing.

One thing I saw in the article I read today is that they are using these emails to see if Clinton inappropriately used her position of power or access to other people in power to benefit her or Bill or Chelsea financially. In the article it says, "On Sunday, he told Fox News host Maria Bartiromo that the investigation is now focusing on possible violations involving Clinton, "coordinating her activities and President Clinton's activities and Chelsea's activities in the Clinton Foundation," and that this new avenue of inquiry may require until 2017 to reach resolution." I'm not sure what she did here that is legal or illegal, but the article, as well as many experts, are starting to say that it looks like Clinton fucked up a little bit, but not enough for major trouble, and now the republicans are doing anything they can to damage her politically.

My prediction is that there will never be an indictment. If Hillary wins the White House she and change the classification on any documents she wants and use her powers to squash any other investigation. If she loses then she will move on to private life and if President Trump continues to go after her it would likely look like a waste of time and money so I wouldn't be shocked to see it all just get dropped.

dyna mo 05-03-2016 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20872145)
I just read today that the guy in charge of the investigation of Hillary has said that the investigation will likely linger into 2017 and not be complete by November so it looks like there is a good chance nothing will happen to Hillary before the election.

Where was that? Comey is otr stating there is no timeline to the criminal investigation (related to the DNC in July). The FBI doesn't give guestimates like that.

kane 05-03-2016 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20872331)
Where was that? Comey is otr stating there is no timeline to the criminal investigation (related to the DNC in July). The FBI doesn't give guestimates like that.

Here it is.

Issa: Clinton email probe may go past election | TheHill

It is Rep. Darrell Issa that told this information to Fox. Apparently he played a big role in bringing the email scandal to light.

Joshua G 05-03-2016 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20871983)
What exactly would she be charged with, and what would the punishment be?

General Petraeus shared classified information with a reporter he was banging, and he was only charged with a misdemeanor.

This is why u suck at thinking. You don't make any effort to find out what she is being investigated for. Your intellectually lazy, make judgements without facts. Maybe read more than liberal propaganda & clue yourself in. Obviously I'm 3 steps ahead of you on this topic.

:2 cents:

dyna mo 05-03-2016 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20872394)
Here it is.

Issa: Clinton email probe may go past election | TheHill

It is Rep. Darrell Issa that told this information to Fox. Apparently he played a big role in bringing the email scandal to light.

Got it. This criminal investigation of Hillary by the FBI includes investigating the Clinton's for money raising as well, it reads like that part could go past the election. She's so crooked it will take the FBI quite a while to sort out her nefarious ways.

Joshua G 05-03-2016 07:51 AM

There are 2 separate investigations, not 1. First is for transferring top secrets to unsecured server. The second is for the favors for foundation cash. The emails started last July & will be done by convention. The 2nd investigation began as a result of FBI reading emails, finding more crimes. Its forecast to continue next year.

Just the fact a US political party, in conjunction with a dishonest media, is covering for a possible felon. Disgraceful. As are the apologists in this thread. Rochard.

Sorry but the dems are in far deeper trouble than they realize...when Trump wins, dems can thank hilary the DNC & a corrupt lying media.

:2 cents:

dyna mo 05-03-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20872760)
There are 2 separate investigations, not 1. First is for transferring top secrets to unsecured server. The second is for the favors for foundation cash. The emails started last July & will be done by convention. The 2nd investigation began as a result of FBI reading emails, finding more crimes. Its forecast to continue next year.

Just the fact a US political party, in conjunction with a dishonest media, is covering for a possible felon. Disgraceful. As are the apologists in this thread. Rochard.

Sorry but the dems are in far deeper trouble than they realize...when Trump wins, dems can thank hilary the DNC & a corrupt lying media.

:2 cents:


it's astonishing watching a grown man use childish reasoning like "well, colin powell did it too" as an excuse to justify and rationalize Hillary's actions. most of us were sat down when we were in the 2nd grade and explained why that's not a valid justification for behavior.

Rochard 05-03-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20872760)
The second is for the favors for foundation cash.

Let me see if I understand this correctly.... The investigations into Benghazi have proven to be a huge waste of time and money, they want to charge Hillary on espionage even though no information was leaked, and now it's perfectly acceptable for Freddie Mac to donate money directly to a candidate but bad to donate to a non profit run?

This is Whitewater all over again. They will keep digging and digging and digging until they find something minor and try to nail her to the wall. That's called desperation.

I wasn't really a fan of Obama, and I'm not a fan of Clinton. Obama was little known and really accomplished very little prior to running for President. . Hillary has been politics for over twenty years and while her resume looks great on paper, what has she really accomplished? Did it ever occur to anyone in the Republican party to just beat her instead of trying to make her look bad with this silly nonsense?

Joshua G 05-03-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20873447)
Let me see if I understand this correctly.... The investigations into Benghazi have proven to be a huge waste of time and money, they want to charge Hillary on espionage even though no information was leaked, and now it's perfectly acceptable for Freddie Mac to donate money directly to a candidate but bad to donate to a non profit run?

jesus rochard...if none of hilarys classified emails leaked, why is the FBI bringing in Guccifer?

Quote:

In a 2015 prison interview from Romania with reporter Matei Rosca for Pando.com, Lazar told Rosca that, "I used to read [Clinton's] memos for six or seven hours ... and then do the gardening."
PS - every single principal in whitewater went to jail, except for the clintons...

C H R I S 05-03-2016 03:28 PM

GOP Convention - Complete shit show clown car just as the entire process has been.

Prediction .... reality.

Rochard 05-03-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20873522)
jesus rochard...if none of hilarys classified emails leaked, why is the FBI bringing in Guccifer?

Oddly enough only Fox News is drawing an imaginary line between this Guccifer cat and Clinton's email issue. Seems Guccifer is in the US for a trial, not to be interviewed about Clinton.

But you keep reaching.

Joshua G 05-03-2016 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20873615)
Oddly enough only Fox News is drawing an imaginary line between this Guccifer cat and Clinton's email issue. Seems Guccifer is in the US for a trial, not to be interviewed about Clinton.

But you keep reaching.

right. i see that you willingly deflect without an open mind. anyway, im will go out on a limb & say she's gonna get smashed by the FBI. like within hours of the FBIs publicized conclusion, her run will be done.

unless of course, there is a cover up. :)

dyna mo 05-03-2016 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20873642)
right. i see that you willingly deflect without an open mind. anyway, im will go out on a limb & say she's gonna get smashed by the FBI. like within hours of the FBIs publicized conclusion, her run will be done.

unless of course, there is a cover up. :)

i'd think the FBI will recommend an indictment, but as history shows, higher ups get a pass on this sort of thing by the DOJ. nevertheless, she'll have to contend with the fact she's campaigning for POTUS while at the same time the FBI recommends indictment.

Joshua G 05-03-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20873663)
i'd think the FBI will recommend an indictment, but as history shows, higher ups get a pass on this sort of thing by the DOJ. nevertheless, she'll have to contend with the fact she's campaigning for POTUS while at the same time the FBI recommends indictment.

trump is going to make a simple proposition to the people...vote for the felon, or vote to prosecute the felon. he's gonna flog her with it, rattan-cane style.

:2 cents:

Joshua G 05-04-2016 11:36 AM

rochard this is must read for you please read then come back & tell me the charges against hilary are nothing.

your hilary is going down. chernobyl-style. & if your a dem, you should hope it happens cause bernie is your best chance to stop the trump train.

:winkwink:

Horatio Caine 05-04-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20870468)
why? because trump will win 1st ballot & the cruz idiots will finally shut their mouths.

& the email investigation will be done by july, & its going to make the dems go crazy realizing they are about to nominate an accused felon. the party delegates may not automatically rally around bernie, might go with biden instead.

the riots from disenfranchised bernie supporters will dwarf what moveon.org/BLM will bring to the GOP convention.

funny cause on paper the dems are the smarter party, but so corrupt & obsessed with identity they cant connect to independents. the bromides of trade war & immigration limits plays better than tax, spend, & find offense in everything.

:)

OP - the points you make is tired, obsolete analysis, the same nonsense the blue color right wing media been selling since last june.

what does matter is turnout in swing states. maybe look into whose getting people to turn out.

Joshua G 05-04-2016 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20873615)
Oddly enough only Fox News is drawing an imaginary line between this Guccifer cat and Clinton's email issue. Seems Guccifer is in the US for a trial, not to be interviewed about Clinton.

But you keep reaching.

hey rochard, faced out.

guccifer just told a media outlet you will read, that he hacked her server.

at this point, you are being a WILLFULLY IGNORANT hilary backer.

schooled, again. :1orglaugh

Joshua G 05-18-2016 04:10 PM

media starting to pick up on what i said 2 weeks ago...

the left wing violence in this country is going totally un-covered by the establishment press, except when they trash trump, then they are heroes. when they wage violence on hilary, OMG bernie needs to do something!

:1orglaugh

Sly 05-18-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20904410)
media starting to pick up on what i said 2 weeks ago...

the left wing violence in this country is going totally un-covered by the establishment press, except when they trash trump, then they are heroes. when they wage violence on hilary, OMG bernie needs to do something!

:1orglaugh

The other day I saw there was an incident with Sanders supporters throwing chairs. LOL.

There was mention of another guy getting beat up.


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