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plaster 06-15-2016 11:23 PM

So libs and dems. ..why is this?
 
Hillary Clinton takes in 25 million dollars to clinton foundation from Saudi Arabia?
Lots of 1 million dollar donations from surrounding countries.

Why is she collecting that money and where do you think it's going?

You guessed it... direct into clinton pockets.

Libs and dems... ask yourself, what does hillary do? The answer is she takes in money by being a politician. She does not build anything... libs and dems... please tell me 1 thing hillary built?!

Hannes 06-16-2016 12:35 PM

stealing our money? she should be stopped... well nothings gonna get done about it so

billywatson 06-16-2016 12:44 PM

Sounds to me like no matter what a "lib" or "dem" says, you have no real interest in listening.

johnny o 06-16-2016 01:17 PM

why most sane dems/libs wanted bernie and don't think highly of HRC.

flashfire 06-16-2016 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny o (Post 20968396)
why most sane dems/libs wanted bernie and don't think highly of HRC.

True, if the republicans would have ran a real candidate they probably would have won

although if the Dems ran Bernie or Biden it would be an absolute landslide instead of the 55-45 win its going to be now

Rochard 06-16-2016 03:49 PM

I don't know much about the Clinton Foundation but... It's a non profit dedicated to solving global issues. Why can't a government donate to it? And being as it's a non profit, non of this money should be going to the Clinton's pockets.

LOL. We should have an investigation.

Meanwhile, Trump uses his charity as a political slush fund:
Donald Trump Accused of Using His Charity as a Political Slush Fund - The Daily Beast

Axeman 06-16-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20968675)
I don't know much about the Clinton Foundation but... It's a non profit dedicated to solving global issues. Why can't a government donate to it? And being as it's a non profit, non of this money should be going to the Clinton's pockets.

LOL. We should have an investigation.

Meanwhile, Trump uses his charity as a political slush fund:
Donald Trump Accused of Using His Charity as a Political Slush Fund - The Daily Beast

First, they were collecting this money and speeches while she was the sitting Secretary of State. Huge conflict of interest at the very least.

Second, you should research the actual % of funds that get distributed from the Clinton Foundation and Global Initiative. Its despicable.

nico-t 06-16-2016 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20968675)
I don't know much about the Clinton Foundation but... It's a non profit dedicated to solving global issues. Why can't a government donate to it? And being as it's a non profit, non of this money should be going to the Clinton's pockets.

Holy shit, you take naive to the next level! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Saudi Arabia, the country stoning women to death on their squares for being raped.
This actually happens, I watched a new documentary a few weeks ago. The square was made with ridges in it that blood could run away easy and you could see fresh blood stains on it. The reporter had to film everything hidden or he would be thrown in jail.
The country with huge empty camps but taking in a total of ZERO refugees.
The country that funds extremist imams to spread the message of sharia, hatred and extremism in mosques around Europe.
The country that funded the 9/11 hijackers.

Yep, that sure sounds like a friendly and philanthropic government who care about human rights and lives, and donate 25 million for 'just a charity'. Fuck, how naive can you be? Don't you know anything?

DraX 06-16-2016 04:27 PM

In short: Hilary is everything I despise.

Bladewire 06-16-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20968723)
Holy shit, you take naive to the next level! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Saudi Arabia, the country stoning women to death on their squares for being raped.
This actually happens, I watched a new documentary a few weeks ago. The square was made with ridges in it that blood could run away easy and you could see fresh blood stains on it. The reporter had to film everything hidden or he would be thrown in jail.
The country with huge empty camps but taking in a total of ZERO refugees.
The country that funds extremist imams to spread the message of sharia, hatred and extremism in mosques around Europe.
The country that funded the 9/11 hijackers.

Yep, that sure sounds like a friendly and philanthropic government who care about human rights and lives, and donate 25 million for 'just a charity'. Fuck, how naive can you be? Don't you know anything?

It sounds like you don't understand Saudi society and the in fighting leading to donations to the Clinton Foundation. You have the king, the royal family and the religious branch the Ulema and the Al ash-Sheikh.

Many in the royal family want a more modern watered down Western society and a stronger role, over the Ulema and the Al ash-Sheikh. They want more rights for women, etc. etc. They are the ones donating to the Clinton Foundation to push for that agenda over the religious zealots in the Ulema and the Al ash-Sheikh.

But of course it's easier for you to post talking points you're fed instead of taking the time to learn for yourself.

Rochard 06-16-2016 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20968723)
Holy shit, you take naive to the next level! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Saudi Arabia, the country stoning women to death on their squares for being raped.
This actually happens, I watched a new documentary a few weeks ago. The square was made with ridges in it that blood could run away easy and you could see fresh blood stains on it. The reporter had to film everything hidden or he would be thrown in jail.
The country with huge empty camps but taking in a total of ZERO refugees.
The country that funds extremist imams to spread the message of sharia, hatred and extremism in mosques around Europe.
The country that funded the 9/11 hijackers.

Yep, that sure sounds like a friendly and philanthropic government who care about human rights and lives, and donate 25 million for 'just a charity'. Fuck, how naive can you be? Don't you know anything?

Back up a bit here.

I am well of what Saudi Arabia is. They are evil, vile, horrible, and most likely partially responsible for 9/11 to some degree (and everyone here knows how I feel about 9/11).

At the same time, for better or for worse, Saudi Arabia remains very important to the United States and it's interests in the region. Saudi Arabia has played an important roll keeping the area stable and the rest of the world in oil. Even now that the United States has surpassed Saudi Arabia in oil production, we still need them to ensure the price of oil remains stable.

If the United States decided to drop kick Saudi Arabia as a friend in the morning, would I loose any sleep? Nope. If the United States decided to bomb them back into the stone age would I loose any sleep? Maybe a little, but only because I hate to see anyone suffer. But I am positive everyone in Europe would loose sleep when the price of their gasoline doubles or triples in price. While Saudi Arabia might just be evil and vile and horrible, we need them.

Rochard 06-16-2016 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20968696)
First, they were collecting this money and speeches while she was the sitting Secretary of State. Huge conflict of interest at the very least.

Second, you should research the actual % of funds that get distributed from the Clinton Foundation and Global Initiative. Its despicable.

I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton, have not been following her, and know nothing about the Hillary Foundation other than what I just read on Wikipedia.

I want to say it's odd that the Secretary of State of state is being paid for giving speeches. On the other hand, are we saying the Secretary of State cannot take part in charities? Is Hillary being paid directly for giving speeches? Or is that money being donated to a charity? If that money is going directly into the pocket of Hillary that is an issue.

Think about this rationally for a moment. If the Secretary of State gives a speech for a college and the college donates money to a charity in her name, then the Secretary of State donated her time and a charity collected money - no harm there.

I do not know anything about the % of money collected and how it's spent. However... I am wondering if that is really a concern? A friend of mine works for the American Red Cross; He is a structural engineer. His job is go to disaster zones and check buildings for damage. He works for a non profit, makes hundreds of thousands of dollars, has a high end custom Jeep for his work truck (needed for disaster zones), and gets paid a lot of money when he travels - for weeks a time (no hotels where he goes). I can also imagine how much money the Red Cross spends on attorneys. My point is... A non profit can burn through a lot of money. In this case because the non profit is run by a political candidate they have to dot every i and cross every t, and that doesn't come cheap.

nico-t 06-16-2016 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20968759)
It sounds like you don't understand Saudi society and the in fighting leading to donations to the Clinton Foundation. You have the king, the royal family and the religious branch the Ulema and the Al ash-Sheikh.

Many in the royal family want a more modern watered down Western society and a stronger role, over the Ulema and the Al ash-Sheikh. They want more rights for women, etc. etc. They are the ones donating to the Clinton Foundation to push for that agenda over the religious zealots in the Ulema and the Al ash-Sheikh.

But of course it's easier for you to post talking points you're fed instead of taking the time to learn for yourself.

Yes, I am sure millions are being paid by them to Clinton of all people to make Saudi Arabia a happy country.
It's money to pay a puppet, so that they are sure another one of their puppets is sitting in the White House. More money will follow. Hillary is their slave. Foundations / charities owned by the rich are tax havens and money laundry services.

Follow the money. Rule #1.


edit: I have no idea what you mean with talking points that are fed - I know this because i do my research as well. Sounds like your sources are the ones that need a second look.

Joshua G 06-16-2016 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20968801)
I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton, have not been following her, and know nothing about the Hillary Foundation other than what I just read on Wikipedia.

this is textbook wilfull ignorance. read clinton cash. like all success in life, you have to "make the effort" to acquire knowledge in order to yield the power of wisdom. but you decide not to read clinton cash, decide wilfully, i dont want to know what she did. wilfull. ignorance.

:2 cents:

Bladewire 06-16-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20968810)
Yes, I am sure millions are being paid by them to Clinton of all people to make Saudi Arabia a happy country.
It's money to pay a puppet, so that they are sure another one of their puppets is sitting in the White House. More money will follow. Hillary is their slave. Foundations / charities owned by the rich are tax havens and money laundry services.

Follow the money. Rule #1.


edit: I have no idea what you mean with talking points that are fed - I know this because i do my research as well. Sounds like your sources are the ones that need a second look.

Well there you go. Not one bit of knowledge given seeped in your brain. 😂😂👍

Rochard 06-16-2016 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20968831)
this is textbook wilfull ignorance. read clinton cash. like all success in life, you have to "make the effort" to acquire knowledge in order to yield the power of wisdom. but you decide not to read clinton cash, decide wilfully, i dont want to know what she did. wilfull. ignorance.

:2 cents:

You have the mentality of a ten year old. You never write anything of substance.

Don't reply to me any more. I've blocked you.

Paul Markham 06-16-2016 10:05 PM

Why are Americans only shocked when the opposition is on the take?

They're all funded by big money.

Government by the wealthy, for the wealthy, of the wealthy.


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